User talk:Vaudree/Archive 1

Thanks for the welcome. <3 Fairly computer illiterate with alertness problems due to chemical sensitivity so will mainly suggest edits and leave the proper wording to others. Will try to remember the (Vaudree (talk) 17:37, October 24, 2015 (UTC))

RE:no-maj
Personally, I know of no source that says that the term "No-Maj" also applies to Squibs. The Entertainment Weekly story about Fantastic Beasts (currently our only source on the matter, I believe) just says No-Maj is "what Stateside wizards say instead of Muggle". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 19:41, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Seth, would it be safe to assume that no-maj is short for "no magic"?

That wording has been chosen very carefully - it only says that they call muggles that - being intentionally mum one way or the other concerning whether or not they have a separate word for squibs. You are right - I guess we are going to have to wait until more information is released. I guess any revision, if necessary, can wait until then. (Vaudree (talk) 20:34, November 22, 2015 (UTC))


 * Hi, Vaudree! I think it would be better you put your question on the talk page of Seth Cooper. Then he gets a notification that someone has sent him a message. When you put it on your own talk page he does not get a notification and will probably not see this.  Harry granger   Talk    contribs  21:29, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Hi Harry Granger - did put it on Seth page and he responded here. Think he gets e-mail notification if any page that he edits gets edited - and that include talk pages. Apologized for unintended snark in a page he just created that was similar to other pages. That is why I came here today - e-mail notification. Feeling a bit dizzy right now, hope it passes, so sorry if the wording comes out wrong.

Still feel that assuming that no-maj is identical to muggle is just as much guess work as assuming that it includes squibs - that, if it is listed separately, it would be more accurate because one can say it is the American word for muggle (which we know) rather than identical in meaning to muggle (which we don't know), but don't want to mess up codes because it looks so nice so not touching. (Vaudree (talk) 23:08, November 28, 2015 (UTC))

I'm not sure
I'm sorry, i'm not really sure. Changing info that's listed on a category page is hard to do. I would ask a site manger, such as Seth.

Misskatniss1546 (talk) 03:39, December 11, 2015 (UTC)Misskatniss1546


 * It's okay, I've jumped in, and taken care of the issue! :) ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 03:45, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Thanks
I'm afraid I can't, since I don't have administrator rights on this wiki. I suggest you contact one of these users if you want something deleted.

Or maybe ask an administrator on this page, if you don't wish to contact a specific administrator. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 04:03, December 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * I suggest you contact Cubs Fan2007, Nick O'Demus, or Seth Cooper. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 04:06, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

It's nice to know adding the Video Game Only category to all the pages is appreciated. I mainly did it to make the Special:CategoryIntersection page (which the awesome admins or mods or whatever of this wiki added upon my request) more able to pick out characters that are blank slates that I could use for the Harry Potter fanfic I am currently working on. As for not knowing how to undo a category change, I am pretty sure that can be accomplished under the History. I will try and remove the extra category from Laura Madley. Tepheris (talk) 21:41, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

I noticed a female listed as male on the list of male names. I made a Graves page and did my best but if I tried to do anything with the box (got the code off of a different family page copy and pasted) the code stops working. Trying to get the names together for disambiguation - which I can do. Thinking of making a list of duplicate surnames that don't have their own family page and giving them to someone - probably whoever is active and seems to know how to use code at the time.

Have not checked the changes section but think all those game category codes are being undone. Best to check with the person undoing them. Yesterday, highlighted the ones changed on my list in brown - to distinguish between the ones changed and the ones not changed. If it is decided not to have the game category, can just delete the highlight from my notes. (Vaudree (talk) 00:07, December 12, 2015 (UTC))

RE: Rachel Morton versus Rachel
Her name is juste "Rachel" in the game, not "Rachel Morton" (see here). Shinra (mur) 10:41, December 12, 2015 (UTC) / talk

Thanks for the explanation. I don't have any of the games. I just happened to come across the name on wikia when it had a surname. (Vaudree (talk) 11:35, December 12, 2015 (UTC))

You Got the Wrong person
Umm, I didn't actually put those name etymologies up. All I did was remove a repeated word following the link to Caractacus Dearborn. -- Tepheris  ||  Send Patronus  14:48, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that - I wondered who took the etymology down, then. You have a good Christmas. (Vaudree (talk) 21:56, December 16, 2015 (UTC))

Hey,

I think that the best person to question on this matter would be Seth Cooper or Starstuff as they are much more experienced than I. I could offer a little help with what I know but you'd be best to ask an admin.

Thanks,

ArrestoMomentum &#124;  talk  04:35, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks :) (Vaudree (talk) 04:39, December 21, 2015 (UTC))

Garrick Ollivander's daughter
"Ms" is not related to marital status. As Mr Ollivander's daughter, she was presumably born with that surname. -- Saxon 16:05, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Agree that Ms can be any marital status.

Her surname when she was born was Ollivander, that is not disputed. HOWEVER, her surname when she died could be Ollivander or it could be something else. It is one of two possibilities - and there is no canon to tell us which one. When there is no canon to tell us which it is, one has to word things in an intentionally vague fashion so as to avoid substituting assumption or bias for canon.

Lily Evans and Nymphadora Tonks are listed as Lily Potter and Nymphadora Lupin because those were their names when they died. We don't know what Ollivander's daughter's name was when she died.

I trust your ability to write in an intentionally vague fashion so leaving it to you to make the correction. (Vaudree (talk) 19:56, January 4, 2016 (UTC))

RE:Bram Stoker
There's been no mix-up. Actual quote from PoA video game: "Count Vlad Drakul (1390 – unknown) – Notorious Vampire who inspired the fictional Count Dracula created by Bram Stoker. Father of Vlad the Impaler." The articles are correct. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:11, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

So the gaming company got it mixed up, but since games are canon as long as they don't contradict the books and movies - ok. So, according to the game, Vlad Drakul inspired the Bram Stoker books and, according to real life, Vlad the Impaler inspired the Bram Stoker books. That makes sense. Any way, you are right according to the game. Should there be something in the "real life" section just in case someone is asked the question on a test? (Vaudree (talk) 17:23, January 7, 2016 (UTC))


 * Actually, the Chocolate Frog Cards were written by Rowling herself, so it's as strong as canon comes. A "Behind the scenes" note explaining the apparent contradiction with actual history is perfectly acceptable, mind. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:41, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

<3 (Vaudree (talk) 17:48, January 7, 2016 (UTC))

Help
Can you help me ? Invisibility 01:47, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'm fairly computer illiterate (Vaudree (talk) 03:54, January 24, 2016 (UTC))

That's all. Thank you Invisibility 04:26, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Umbridge
A few things: Umbridge hates half-breeds. If she'd been at school with Sirius and Lupin -- a KNOWN werewolf (that's why he can't get a job under Umbridge's law; he's an KNOWN werewolf) -- then she would've been known to them. Thus, she has to be older than both of them; she was at least 30 in 1995 -- meaning a min 1965 birthdate. However, we know she didn't attend Hogwarts with them as Sirius only knows her by reputation; he mentions Bertha Jorkins who was "a few years" behind them as knowing her in person. If Umbridge had been at school, he would've known her like Jorkins. Thus, she has to have finished before Sirius began -- e.g. she was AT LEAST 17 in 1970, giving a 1953 date of birth -- and by Pottermore we know she cannot have started AFTER him as she is AT LEAST 30 and unlike Jorkins, isn't known to Sirius. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 16:15, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

No one knew that Lupin was a werewolf when he attended Hogwarts - except DD, a few professors and his friends - but the Ministry knew. Odds are that Umbridge did not find out about Lupin's status until she started work at the Ministry. The other thing is that Umbridge had a mother who chose her squib brother over her and a father whose occupation she was ashamed of - she was not likely bringing much attention to herself at Hogwarts. These are not facts about herself that she would want people talking about - even in adulthood, bad things happened to people who asked whether she was related to the janitor at the Ministry. Umbridge "Leans In" (to use Sheryl Sandberg's terminology) when it comes to her superiors or people who can give her power only to switch allegences when her "mentor" goes out of favour and is very vicious to her inferiors - this is not a person who had true friendships.

In the books, Lily knew about Severus's family life and Jamtart and Black knew that Lupin was a werewolf and Hermione knew that Ginny was sneaking into the broom shack to practice Quidditch at night. Having friends came with people knowing your secrets - and that was too high a price to pay for Umbridge - or too big a risk to take.

On the other hand, kids sneaking around the school would be aware of a person who was always on the outlook for new information to share and spread around. Bertha Jorkins was a gossip and a snoop - she did not have all those memory charms put on her for just blabbing - she made it her business to become aware of that which she ought not to know. Bertha had a tendency to draw attention to herself. (Vaudree (talk) 03:05, February 13, 2016 (UTC))

The easiest way to explain it -- see the date of birth reference on Umbridge's page. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 03:22, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd say we should consult a member of the administration team and see what they think of the situation. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 03:25, February 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Good idea. My position is only that we can't know her age based on Black's lack of memory of her.  Explaining it made me feel sorry for Umbrdidge for the first time ever and understand her anger a bit.  PS. Luba Goy would have been a better Umbridge. (Vaudree (talk) 05:15, February 13, 2016 (UTC))


 * An administrator has already intervened, so we don't need to do anything about the issue anymore. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 05:18, February 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * We can determine her age based on Sirius's words. He mentions Bertha, who's a few years older, and we know he was at school with the older gang of Slytherins that Snape hung around with and we know he remembers those. The specific fact that Sirius mentions knowing her only by "reputation" means they weren't at school together, so she had to have finished before he began.--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 11:32, February 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * @ HarryPotterRules1 - Can you please just drop this, because it's not helping anyone. Obviously you're on the losing side of the argument, so the best practice would be to back off and accept what the majority has agreed on.


 * It's alright for you to be against what others think, but that doesn't mean that you should continue to publicly oppose it, because there doesn't seem to be anything you can do to make others agree different. It's pretty apparent that your side of the argument has about a snowball's chance of passing anytime soon. I know it might not sound good, but it's the truth. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:51, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Not can more might be able to if one's theory is correct. Your theory may or may not be correct - and there are a lot of outstanding theories that may or may not be correct. Alice Longbottom and Peter Pettigrew may be brother and sister, there are some things that point that way, but, until JKR says one way or the other, one cannot put it in the wikia entry.

For the most part, Harry did not know who the other kids were in the other grades - he knew Cho and Angela because they were on the team, and Luna because Ginny introduced them and Colin because he made a point of introducing himself to Harry over and over again. For the most part, he saw random kids whom he did not know nor felt he needed to get to know. He became aware of the kids who were in Dumbledore's army, but, except for a few people (Ginny, Luna, and the Creevey brothers), they were all Harry's age and older. Because there was distrust between Gryffindor and Slytherin generally - and other reasons, there were no Slytherins in Dumbledore's army so, Harry's knowledge of Slytherins generally was his year and those who played Quidditch. (Vaudree (talk) 16:38, February 14, 2016 (UTC))

RE:Tina not an Auror
By now it has been confirmed that Porpentina was indeed an Auror at the MACUSA. See page. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:45, February 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, sorry, my bad, did not read your message as thoroughly as I should. Any way, there's no way we can infer what job she has from the clothes she likes to wear. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:55, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Not definiatively. Depends what they meant in the article you used to canon by the phrase "elements of their character" - whether it is their personality only or whether it is to capture the role the actors are playing.

It is very interesting that both her status is downgraded and her clothes are downgraded.

Relevant quotes from your link:

"‘Well,’ she says. ‘Tina had been an Auror. She’s fallen out of that world but I still wanted her to have the feeling of that world. So I gave her an overcoat that’s a little bit loose like an Auror’s coat, but made of more ordinary fabric, as though she’d downgraded from that spectacular leather silhouette of the Aurors." / "... the way she’s dressed the Goldstein sisters is not just about aesthetics. It’s about literally weaving elements of their character into their clothes."

Other Quotes:

'Fantastic Beasts' Character Descriptions Revealed says: "Tina is relegated to an office well below her abilities after she stood up for the wrong person."

Everything we've learned about ‘Fantastic Beasts' this week says: "She’s been demoted below her abilities and ambitions because she stood up for the wrong person."


 * FIRST - character seems to refer to one's role and circumstance as well as one's personality.


 * SECOND - demotions tend to be a lower rank of the same profession rather than a new profession.


 * THIRD - below one's abilities means a job requiring less skill rather than a job requiring a different skillset.

In FB, Newt has information as to the Beasts, their habits, their preferred habitat and what they eat - that is information that Graves doesn't have. What Newt lacks is any knowledge of New York or where the Beasts would go to try to find these things. Would an auror, who only looks after important things, have knowledge as trivial as to where in New York the Beasts could find what they would be looking for once escaping?(Vaudree (talk) 06:42, February 22, 2016 (UTC))


 * What I read in that Pottermore article is that, once she's been demoted, she is no longer obliged to wear the leather coats US Aurors wear, but that she sticks to a (simpler) long overcoat that is reminiscent of her past job. That's it, with no further implications. Because we don't know the nature of her demotion (and, no, demotions are not necessarily to a "lower rank of the same profession", might simply be a demotion to a position of less hierarchical importance (cf. Bartemius Crouch Sr. was demoted from Head of the Dept. for Magical Law Enforcement to Head of the Dept. of International Magical Cooperation -- as Magical Law Enforcement is the largest and most important department).
 * All we know at the moment is that she is not an Auror anymore. Which doesn't necessarily imply she's sill in the policing forces (might have been demoted to a clerical job, for example). -- <font style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 11:14, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Ok, point taken, we can't know for sure, but you did use a bad example to make it. Head of a department - is a job category so a demotion would either be to a different department or to a sub department.

Just like with nurse, one can either go to a lower rank of nurse or become a nurse in a less important part of the hospital - either way one is still a nurse. One doesn't go from nurse to janitor or to tow truck driver in the hospital parking lot. Doctors don't usually get demoted to nurse and nurses don't usually get demoted to orderly - unless there is the whole unrecognized foreign credential thing going on.

Tina isn't someone who is overlooked for promotion because she pissed off the wrong person - she actually had the job of auror before she was demoted - so experience being an auror rather than just the ability to be an auror. Whatever she is doing now, she brings both her previous job experience and her present job experience to the task of helping Newt capture the beasts. How useful either are to the task is speculation on my part. (Vaudree (talk) 14:01, February 27, 2016 (UTC))

Delete Tag
When adding the delete tag, just use this: The template is used for linking to templates easily and should not be used on actual articles, as it's intended to help users find the templates. --Sajuuk 13:45, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks <3 (Vaudree (talk) 13:50, March 11, 2016 (UTC))

re: M Dudziac
You could try searching the deletion logs for any pages that might match the title you want. But the talkpage for the deletion candidates category is not an appropriate place for that kind of discussion: it shouldn't even have been used for as long as it had been. --Sajuuk 11:44, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks :) <3 (Vaudree (talk) 21:50, March 21, 2016 (UTC))