User talk:IlvermornyWizard

RE Questions
Yes, the Native American students can be added to the Ilvermorny list, even if they are unnamed or unidentified. If a user account is blocked, any additional accounts are considered sock-puppets and will be blocked as well if used to circumvent the block. See HPW:SOCK policy. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:54, June 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * As noted on HPW:SOCK policy, "If any of a user's accounts are to be blocked, then all accounts associated with that user will also be blocked." It doesn't matter when the accounts were made, the intent is to block the user because of their actions, regardless of what account(s) they might be using. --Ironyak1 (talk) 11:46, June 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Before a page is deleted it needs to be reviewed by an admin - blanking the content makes this more difficult for them to do.


 * Yes, Draco and Delphini are both House of Black descendants, but as they do not bear the Black name they are technically not in the House of Black (like the Weaselys, or Albus Potter). Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:52, July 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * The mention is already in Appearances, but in the History section of Ilvermorny School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, something could be said about how The New York Ghost reports on their House points. It would also make sense to have MACUSA listed in the infobox for the Potter family with a comment (like this:  ) about it being the American branch or individuals. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:43, July 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't see any reason why you couldn't add a castle description for Ilvermornym and gifs can be used to accompany the text as well. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:57, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Here is the quote from - "I went to America to free a trafficked Thunderbird, which was quite risky enough, given that MACUSA had a curse-to-kill policy on all magical creatures at the time. I am proud to say that one year after my visit, President Seraphina Picquery instituted a Protective Order on Thunderbirds, an edict she would eventually extend to all magical creatures."

"Thunderbirds" is always capitalised so it's not clear if there was a formally named "Protective Order on Thunderbirds" law, but there was at least a "Protective Order", on Thunderbirds to start and later on all magical creatures. Hope that helps. --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:39, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no way to make the image clearer, other than to pause the movie at a clearer moment and take a better screenshot. You can adjust the display size by adding an option to the File tag: 150px, 200px, etc... eg ImageName.jpg


 * As for articles on Duels, most articles are named like Duel at Godric's Hollow, so "Duel between Isolt Sayre and Gormlaith Gaunt", for separate articles, or "Duels at Ilvermorny Castle" to cover the multiple duels, would fit this standard. Hope that helps! --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:17, November 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * File:ManHatOnMilliners.png was taken from MinaLima print at their online shop, not from the movie - that is why it is so clear. There are other sources, like books and art prints, for some items. --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:59, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

RE Gregory Goyle's mother
A pure-blood is defined as someone without any muggle-or muggle-born parents or grandparents. So Goyle's mom may in fact be a half-blood due to a muggle or muggle-born grandparent, but as this would be a great-grandparent for Gregory he could still be a pure-blood. See to see how half-bloods can appear on a pure-blood family tree. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:48, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Categories & Subcategories
Generally, only the most specific category should be on the article. For example, if an article is in Category:Malfoy family, it is automatically already under Category:Pure-blood_families, Category:Sacred Twenty-Eight families, Category:Wizard families, Category:Families, etc... The bot will automatically remove any redundant parent categories so any that have been added to articles will removed during the next run of the bot (about once a week). Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:07, September 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * Wikimedia (which Wikia is built on) uses a category tree, which has categories and subcategories arranged much like a system of folders. You only put the article (or file) in the most relevant subcategory (or folder), not in every category (or folder) above it.


 * All Malfoys are members of Sacred Twenty-Eight families, which are all Pure-blood families, which are all Wizarding families, etc... There is no need to apply all these categories as if the article belongs to the sub-category, it automatically is included in all the parent categories in the tree above.


 * The categories are not tags which have no structure or relationship to each other and would require all the relevant categories to be applied (any Malfoy article would have Malfoy family, Sacred Twenty-Eight families, Pure-Blood families, Wizarding families, Families, etc, etc... Hope that helps --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:42, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

My mistake, too many tabs open. This issue has been resolved, it seems.

(PresidentHoneybell (talk) 19:00, October 3, 2017 (UTC))

RE:Ilvermorny Crest
Apologies; I hadn't really noticed the design of the Ilvermorny crest had been updated! Cheers, --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:05, October 4, 2017 (UTC)

RE Gif images
Sorry for the delay, but yes gifs are allowed and are used on many articles. --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:44, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

BTS section
In our articles, mentions of non-canon things belong to the BTS section, as far as I am aware. The main body of the article only lists canon information. Also, the mention of book titles etc. is restricted to BTS and Appearances section, as they are written as though everything really happened. We use the dates instead.--Rodolphus (talk) 23:25, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Kudos!
Hey, justed wanted to pop by and give you a thumbs up, real quick. I've noticed some of your more recent edits, and I'd just like to commend your productiveness. Keep up the good work! :-D Ninclow (talk) 07:09, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Order of Merlin

 * Congratulations friend.Invisibility 16:25, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

RE:House Traits
Hello again, nice hearing from you! :-D

I'm not an admin, and can't speak for them, but... Sure. I mean - I can't honestly say I see the harm in hinting to the facts depicted on those two pages, granted we don't fully treat them as such. People aren't fully defined by their house alone, after all, so while one could say that some Ravenclaws would be welcoming of eccentric peers, for example, others wouldn't. Luna is made fun of by her fellow students, after all, not only Ron. it'd be inaccurate to say that all Ravenclaws share the traits/opinions alluded to, as long as the article don't outright treat them like they are universal.

As for reference, if you can't link the pages themselves, just link to Pottermore.com and add in a parantese the name of the two pages they're supposed to look up in ordinary text.

Hope that answered it!

Ninclow (talk) 21:46, January 19, 2018 (UTC)



Oh, that  should be easy enough. You simply insert a reference and set it up like this:

Pottermore - (6 reasons to get excited if you’re sorted into Ravenclaw)
As for not making it universal, have you read the introduction to the house intoductions from Pottermore? To find out how you can make it more objective, my advise would be for you to read them over, and pay particular attention to everything said about the house of Ravenclaw by each house prefect, then you pop by the Ravenclaw page and check out the "traits" section, where most of said information should already have been included. Look at how its being phrased and find a way to squeeze in the information you'd like to include.

However, some of the information is also actually balantly false, so it's important that for the sake of accuracy, that you try your best to think back to the books and check if you can remember something similar having been said, done or happened to any Ravenclaws in the books. For example, you have one thing in particular I dismissed fairly easily:

"Ravenclaw is famous for welcoming eccentric people" is open for intepretation. Why? Well, Moaning Myrtle and Lua Lovegood was both eccentic, and both of them were bullied for it. As a matter of fact, I don't think "Loony" Lovegood had as much as a single friend prior to her introduction in the fifth book, which would've been her fourth year. One could arguably say that "welcoming eccentric people' could be said for all four houses. The portrait of the courages Sir Cadogan is said to depict the man pretty much as he was in life, for example.

"Getting into the Ravenclaw common room sounds like a lot of fun" isn't necessarily the case either. As Luna or Cho said in the seventh book, if you can't answer the riddle, then you had to wait until someone else came along and could figure it out. Imagine if you will a little first year just leaving the common room, and recalled he had forgot his potion's book, so he hurried back because his first class was with Snape, and if he can't be quick about it, he'll be late for breakfast. I mean, the Ravenclaw Tower is beleived to be found in the fifth floor, right? That's five floors worth of descending staircases, some of which as he entered the grand staircase is prone to move and might put them the wrong place and he has to either wait for it to come back or ask it nicely to. Then there are Peeves, avoid Peeves, or he'll keep you from breakfast. And now they forgot their book, and can't solve the riddle and have to wait. So you should make it so the article reflects the fact that while Ravenclaws are intellectually inclined, there are likely to be some who likes the challenge and think the riddles helps them keeping their minds keen and subtle, while some probably just finds them to be annoyingly inconvinient and would wish they had a password instead.

If you can't remember  something similar having been said, done or happened to any Ravenclaws in the books, then just add it anyway. Then you can drop me a message here when you are done, and I'll look it over and remove any inaccuracies for you. Beast of luck! ;-) Ninclow (talk) 06:45, January 20, 2018 (UTC)

I changed what you wrote a bit. I don't see Ravenclaws as "smart enough to know friendship requires work to be lasting",  necessarily. Cho Chang lost all of her friends after she had her breakdown after Cedric was killed and she stopped being popular, so the gang hanging with her were neither loyal, real friends or acknowledged what we just talked about, so I removed it for the time being. Couldn't think of a valid, canon example of it being the case on the top of my head. But I like your initiative! Keep it up, my friend! Ninclow (talk) 01:29, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

What I think is important to remember, mate, is that pages like that are mainly promotional, not very factual. Some editor on Pottermore basically says; "Ravenclaw are smart. This is good about smart people", without checking that it actually applies to the Harry Potter universe. But sure, I will try. ;-) Ninclow (talk) 07:32, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Questions
Yes, it seems like it is. The image you provided stems from a canon source. Shikoba Wolfe was an American wandmaker, so I'd say it is a definitive yes. As for wizarding France being galmorous? Uh... Where did you hear that? I mean - sure, it probably is, because the description of Beauxbatons in the books sounds glamorous, so the rest of the magical community over there might be as well. Ninclow (talk) 23:05, January 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't think it warrants a seperate section in the article, but you can add it early on in the "History" part. Ninclow (talk) 06:30, January 24, 2018 (UTC)


 * Not sure... can you link the specific feature you have in mind? :-) Ninclow (talk) 08:07, January 28, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can go ahead and do that. The information was written by Rowling and is perfectly canon. ;-) Ninclow (talk) 10:15, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

That would be on the existing page. :-) Ninclow (talk) 23:42, February 1, 2018 (UTC) You could do it as simple as calling the section "interior", for example? As for the rest of your question, I think you'd better direct this to Seth Cooper, just to be sure I don't give you some bad advise. He's an admin, after all. ;-) Ninclow (talk) 00:25, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

That you can. :-) Ninclow (talk) 10:06, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Sections
Hello! I have noticed you have been splitting articles into sections; however, I should say that small, stubby articles (such as Peachy Witchy, or Federal Identity Commissioner) don't necessarily need to be split into sections -- apart from the "mandatory" ones (like, "Appearances", or "References") sections are to aid navegation in longer articles. Cheers! --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 15:32, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Unsupported Flight vs. Apparition
The plumes of smoke were indeed a visual depiction of Apparition (albeit one that does not seem to comply with the established book canon). The Half-Blood Prince script refers to what Greyback and the Death Eaters do in the opening scene as Apparating. This is further confirmed in the Deathly Hallows video game, in which Harry can Apparate short distances the same way. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 02:51, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Walburga and Orion Black Images
I'd say the most important thing would be to feature both images. The main picture would have to be the cropped version of the family portrait (i.e. showing only Walburga or Orion) -- and then featuring the full picture just a couple of paragraphs below would be repetitive. Both pictures are equally valid, mind, so there's no reason the picture from the Family tree can't be on the infobox. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 03:56, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Question
Category:Wizards is non-gender-specific (it uses the male form because there doesn't seem to be a gender-neutral term); people are separated by gender on Category:Males and Category:Females. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 03:56, February 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * I think I'd prefer "Creatures from [place]". But I guess both are acceptable. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 04:55, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE Walburga and Orion Black page
I agree with Seth on this one. The family pic works with that related section and the tapestry photo works for the individual infobox. I would also add that having a variety of pictures helps with seeing the different adaptations from the film and Pottermore for this character's portrayal instead of using just one source. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:52, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE:American wizarding hero
As it's explained in talk page of the deleted article, the text is not, on that instance, mentioning a specific character; it's a literary way of saying that even though Beauvais wands are connotated with Dark magic, at least some good guys also owned her wands. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:27, February 17, 2018 (UTC)


 * I know it used the words "American wizarding hero", but the excerpt refers to no one in particular, it's an expression. --  Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 04:57, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Grindelwald's bolt page
I'd agree that the page name is not ideal (it shouldn't be capitalised unless it's a name given in canon, though). Can't check right now if the screenplay calls it something different, though. -- <font style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 22:44, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

RE:
Dashes can be used to denote an interpolation within a sentence; they're used to set off parenthetical statements. Such a sentence — like this one — ought to make sense whether what's in between the dashes is ommited or not. -- <font style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 02:11, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Lestrange family
Hey - saw your message to Seth, but I happen to be on now. What needs to be fixed exactly? --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:15, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Order of Merlin 2
You still do not have the Order of Merlin 2?

Why did you remove all primate categories?
They are all primates. Every single reliable source will tell you that.

Opdagon (talk) 15:10, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Humans are primates
That is a fact. Also, comparing this to an example which literally CANNOT be bent to your viewpoint won't help.

Opdagon (talk) 20:38, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

And yet humans have it. Also, humans are apes

Opdagon (talk) 06:56, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Birds are dinosaurs
if you use logic to discover anything different, you've used false premises or need to redo how equality works in your logic.

Opdagon (talk) 13:26, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Delete tag
Please make sure you are adding the Delete template to pages WITHOUT removing the content of the page. For redirect pages, please add the tag after the REDIRECT statement so the redirect still works. For instance, in renaming American Society of Legilimens to The American Society of Legilimens, Living With Legilimens: Choose Your Minds Wisely still has a link to the first naming (in the infobox), so the redirect is still needed till all links are cleaned up, which you can see here: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere&target=American+Society+of+Legilimens&namespace=0

Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:57, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your compliments and for encouraging -Ashrafgulzafar14

Definition of dinosaur
"the group consisting of the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of Triceratops and Neornithes, and all its descendants."

Opdagon (talk) 16:01, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

RE: RE: Definition of Dinosaurs
The way descendence works, is that the descendant of the descendant of entity X, is descended from entity X. Also, everything is descendant from all of its ancestors.

Opdagon (talk) 19:11, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Eye of Horus
How do we know the Eye of Horus is a pin? To me, it looks more like a brooch - or a talisman that's been attached onto fabric. Or - how we know it isn't a part of the fabric? Maester Martin (talk) 19:05, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

RE Adding all residents to dorms
Wouldn't this be a copy of the house page rosters e.g. Known Ravenclaws? What would be the value in repeating it all on the dorm pages? Generally it is a bad idea as it creates two pages with the same info that need to be maintained, although some dorm specific information (like how Harry, Ron, Neville, Seamus, and Dean shared a room) might make sense to highlight. Thoughts? --Ironyak1 (talk) 14:08, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

RE:
Hi. That's because the year they started at Hogwarts depends on which month they were born. People born before the start of the school year (1 September) start at Hogwarts in the year they turn 11 (i.e. Harry Potter, who was born in July 1980, started at Hogwarts in 1991, a month after his 11th birthday); people born after 1 September start at Hogwarts in the year they turn 12 (i.e. Hermione Granger, who was born in September 1979, also started at Hogwarts in 1991, nearly a year after her 11th birthday).

In the case of the characters you asked, Narcissa Malfoy and Phineas Nigellus Black, while we do know the exact year, we don't know what month they were born. -- <font style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 17:05, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Sound Producing Chocolates
Hello. Regarding the Sound Producing Chocolates page, I noticed you changed the name back. I had only changed it otherwise as I couldn't find any evidence of them being chocolates. Do you know where could I have found that evidence, for future reference?

<font face="Arial" size="4" color="Black">Donut4  | <font face="Arial" size="4" color="Grey">Talk page  21:47, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think the scene was included within the book, but I don't remember that well since I had a clear out recently. I was under the impression that the smoke coming from his ears was from Pepper Imps which seemed to produce the same effect, and how when Harry went to take one the others seemed as though he wasn't supposed to have one, which was contrary to the activity they were partaking in (eating these animal sweets).

Nevertheless, 'Sound Producing Chocolates' not only seems very certain that they are chocolates (sweets is much more categorical) but it also implies it's a proper noun, concerning how each word is capitalised. I did read through the Prisoner of Azkaban script and I couldn't find the scene, so I relied on calling them 'animal noise sweets.' Yes, it can be 'sound-producing sweets' but I wouldn't venture so far as to propose they were chocolates.

The general rule I've found on this wiki is that conjectural articles hold names which aren't capitalised, so that they can't be inferred as proper nouns. I think this should be applied on the article in question too.

<font face="Arial" size="4" color="Black">Donut4  | <font face="Arial" size="4" color="Grey">Talk page  22:00, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread what you said. Sound-producing sweets is a perfect alternative.

<font face="Arial" size="4" color="Black">Donut4  | <font face="Arial" size="4" color="Grey">Talk page  22:02, July 2, 2018 (UTC)