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Cane
Is this worthy of an article? I realize that we have articles on numerous generic things that appear in canon, but surely this is pushing it? Harry once threw a stick at either Crabbe or Goyle (can't quite recall which). Should we have an article on sticks? A line should be drawn somewhere. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 01:35, January 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it should be redirected to "Walking stick", but wanted to ask someone/anyone else before doing so. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:56, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * If you think that's unworthy, just notify there's random stuff like Unidentified bluebird and Unidentified Black Death Eater at the Battle of Hogwarts (II). Donut4  || TALK PAGE 14:00, January 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this is definitely not worthy of an article. It's not even a real object appearing in the book, and is only mentioned when Harry thinks Wood is a cane. Flabshoe1 (talk) 19:40, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

The Existential Adulteration of Harry Potter
The Existential Adulteration of Harry Potter should be taken off the candidates for deletion list because, although not an official part of the canon, it does add an interesting element to the Potter series.

It is, in essence, Book 3.5. I found this book while browsing Potter books on Amazon, read it, and enjoyed it so much that I thought other Harry Potter fans should know about it. One should at least read the book before deeming it unrelated to Harry Potter and unworthy for this site.

Perhaps a special consideration should be made for this title due to its unique content and growing popularity.

Thank you for reading.

Dmoriarty (talk) 12:18, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

D. Moriarty


 * It is still a fanon piece with no place in this wiki in and for itself. A page listing the most important fanons out there might have some merits, though. MinorStoop  13:00, February 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * I also think that, interesting though it is, it doesn't warrant its own separate page. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 23:00, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Tom Marvolo Riddle's Horcruxes
Whilst I admit that as it currently stands this page is just a duplicate of another page, and thus will need a rename, conjecture tag and rewrite, I feel that if we can have a page for one single Horcrux mentioned obscurely in one interview, there should perhaps be a page for seven notable, if not crucial, Horcruxes seen throughout the series. A link could go on the Horcrux page to this page and all information pertaining to Voldemort's Horcruxes can be summarised on that page and expanded upon in this one. Hunnie Bunn (talk) 12:57, March 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's what I was thinking more or less. Why does it need a rename? Where is there conjecture on the page? If it was okay on the previous article, what's wrong with it on this one? Why does it need a rewrite? Jdogno7 (talk) 13:09, March 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * It needs a conjecture tag because "Tom Marvolo Riddle's Horcruxes" isn't a name used directly in the series for the things. Therefore, it's something called a "conjectural title" - the title was made by a user on the wiki so that it'd be easier to find. The rename is because the "Marvolo" in the title is unneccessary. I'm pretty sure the article is all right as is and thus probably won't need a rewrite at all, but some other editors might be tweaking little things along the way as seen fit by them. Hunnie Bunn (talk) 13:18, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Well since Tom Riddle's Horcruxes linked to the main Horcrux article page, that was the closest name I could use that wasn't used by another article. Is there a way to fix that? Jdogno7 (talk) 23:36, March 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * If it's decided that the article can stay, I'll fix that. Hunnie Bunn (talk) 23:41, March 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Jdogno7 (talk) 00:44, March 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * What could be done is keep the page Horcrux with general information about the horcruxes and move the informations about Voldemort's horcruxes that is in the text Horcrux to mix with the text Tom Marvolo Riddle's Horcruxes and make it better to doesn't be deleted. So the wikia would have following pages: 1) Horcrux: a page with general information about the horcruxes; 2) and pages with information about the wizards who created horcruxes which are: 2a) Tom Marvolo Riddle's Horcruxes and... 2b) Herpo the Foul's Horcrux. Andre G. Dias (talk) 08:36, March 2, 2014 (Brazil)


 * What happened to my page? When was it deleted?

Jdogno7 (talk) 06:59, March 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I thought pages weren't to be deleted until a consensus was reached unless the pages were fanonical; this page, while currently little more than a duplicate of another page, serves the potential to be a very erstwhile and useful page if the suggestions listed above were taken. However, others seem to disagree, so this is the place to provide reasons why the page should be outright deleted. Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:08, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Erstwhile" means "past, former". If this page gets deleted it will indeed thereby become erstwhile. — RobertATfm (talk) 07:42, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Possibly fanonical pages about Anne and Alysha
Though there is a link to Pottermore on one of them, these pages refer to individuals born in 2003. I strongly suspect them to be fanonical, so I've tagged them for deletion. Since the author seems to disagree, I brought it here. MinorStoop  07:17, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

A category of uncertain relevance
There is an ongoing discussion between user Jdogno7 about the category Magic invented by Fred and George Weasley. Jdogno7 maintains that this category and the one for Category:Fred and George Weasley's inventions have both relevance, I maintain that "Inventions by..." suffices. Opinions? MinorStoop  07:51, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Finally. Jdogno7 (talk) 09:09, March 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * At present time, I would tend to agree with that "Inventions by" renders "Magic invented by" rather redundant, and the latter category should be deleted or merged with the former. Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:06, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

I'm differentiating between an original piece of magic as opposed to a new use for an already existing piece of magic.

Jdogno7 (talk) 06:27, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Chicken and ham sandwich

 * Chicken and ham sandwiches are not noteworthy as such, but the plate magically refilling itself when empty is noteworthy. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:15, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Rename the page to "Self-refilling plate" or similar? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:10, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Draco Trilogy
The trilogy is a notable fanfiction. Flabshoe1 (talk) 02:34, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's right! It is a fanfiction and not cannon. So, why to delete the page if it can be added to the Category: Fandom? Andre G. Dias (talk) 00:05, March 23, 2014 (Brazil)


 * Reading the page, this series is "notable" mainly for being stolen wholesale from numerous other works. As such it doesn't deserve recognition, here or anywhere else. Delete. — RobertATfm (talk) 03:05, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * The James Potter series page is on the same mould. MinorStoop  05:52, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * The main reason why I tagged "Draco Trilogy" for deletion and not "James Potter (series)" was that Rowling responded to the James Potter series, as can be seen in the "Response by Rowling" section of that page; she fully endorsed the novel and was even accused of writing it herself. The Draco Trilogy, however, is, as said above by RobertATfm, notable chiefly for breaking copyright laws and being taken off the web. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 11:31, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I can accept that - I've therefore removed the deletion templates. MinorStoop  13:07, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Our notability guidelines allow for the coverage of fan fiction works which have been "subject to intense media attention" or are of "lasting, widespread popularity to a large segment of the Harry Potter community." The Draco Trilogy, I think, fits both of these criteria: it's popular within HP fandom and its autkor, Cassandra Clare, is a now a New York Times best-selling author whose origin as a writer of fan fiction has been covered in the media. -&#x2605; S t a <font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r <font face="Times" color="green">s <font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t <font face="Times" color="green">u <font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f <font face="Times" color="green">f  <font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!) 02:24, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Ravenclaw House
Please! Delete this page which I have wrongly created when I tried to do a " Redirect page " but it didn't work. Andre G. Dias (talk) 01:54, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it was fixed by Cubs Fan2007 (as can be seen in the History Log page), so I think we can forget about and remove the Category "Candidates for deletion" of the redirect page Ravenclaw House. Andre G. Dias (talk) 14:10, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Deletion category going-over
It might be worth to go over the items tagged for deletion - many of them are redirects to talk pages or tagged a few months ago with no discussion. Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="red">MinorStoop  09:08, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * To my mind, "Candidates for deletion" (or whatever it's called on any particular wiki) should be a strictly temporary category; pages should be in it for two weeks at most, after which either the delete tag or the article itself (whichever is warranted) should be deleted. That's my take anyway. — RobertATfm (talk) 10:42, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Filius McGonagall
I don't think Filius McGonagall should be a candidate for deletion as it is a good page and it has a lot of things which are true in it. Also there is a lot of good things on the page whch could increase popularity of this wikia!

FiliusMcG (talk) 15:55, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's unfortunately very fanonical and rightfully deleted. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="red">MinorStoop  16:19, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

"Harry Potter and the Sorcer's[sic] Stone" and its talk page
These are both redirects, artefacts of someone moving "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" to the given title (in violation of wiki policy). I can understand why "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" might be a desired redirect, but this one is a misspelling, so I don't see what purpose it could possibly serve. Delete. — RobertATfm (talk) 23:37, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know whether the search engine would be able to deal with this kind of misspelling even without redirects, but wouldn't be surprised if somebody entered it. Keeping them as redirects is unhurtful at best and useless at worst. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="red">MinorStoop  07:26, May 18, 2014 (UTC)