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RE:About the "what the heck sction"
In response to your reply as well as C.Sydes input:


 * So... Yeah, I don't really know what else there is to say. I JUST finished telling you about how I couldn't ignore it because it's upsetting me on a personal level, and your advise is to ignore it. Sorry, chief, had this been literary ANY other discussion I've ever partaken in, I'd prudently just bow my head and respected your decision, bathing in the light of your wisdom and guiding hand and all that, but with this one, to expect me just to "ignore" it isn't good enough to make me comfortable with it being there, because whether keeping it there is intended to showcase my shortcomings or not doesn't make a lick of a difference, because regardless, that's exactly what that section does. Sorry for being so blunt, but seriously... "Rules", "policies", whatever you want to call it - "discussion", "debate" whatever label you choose to give the section to justify keeping it, it's not going to make me feel any better about it being there. Now that I remember it is there, as long as it is, I will spend about 100% of my energy lamenting about what a horrible person I am and nil at appreciating whatever progress I may or may not have made. Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult, but self-confidence isn't anything to write home about, and thus, that's just how my head work.


 * An important part of being a good editor is being able to take constructive criticism.
 * In what way does keeping a so-called discussion where I lost my temper and treated people disrepectfully equal "constructive criticism?" Because I can tell you,  a so-called discussion where I lost my temper and treated people disrepectfully is not a shining example of "constructive criticism", it's still just  a so-called discussion where I lost my temper and treated people disrepectfully.


 * Regardless it doesn't mean you can remove the discussion from the page and pretend it didn't happen.And I'm not going to. As you can see in my discussion about whether Newt was expelled or not, I daresay I have come a long way since then, but that's beside the point. The point is that when I see the "What the heck?!" section, I don't automatically think; "Aaaaaw, see how bad I was then and how much better I am now, that's nice!", I get furious at myself, I start disliking myself, and end up in a very dimly lit place. I've visited it one time to many and do not care to do so again. The service is crappy and the rooms are bad.


 * These things happen, people do all kinds of things on the internet that they regret. it's how they learn from them.
 * Removing a failure to treat people respectfully from public view is not the same as pretending it didn't happen or that I didn't learn from it, it's merely a way for me to prevent myself from forgetting how and why I learned from it by being too busy beating myself up over bad choices to appreciate any potential progress.


 * I've done things on the internet that I'm not proud of. But I accept them and move on.
 * Not wanting to look at something is not the same as not accepting. For example, I had a rat in my apartment, and although I don't want to look at the picture my brother took of it with his phone after we found it dead in a trap, I sure accept that it was there and that I have to buy a new dishwasher because of it.


 * I suggest you do the same.
 * I'm trying to, but the "standard procedures" won't let me.


 * Most people probably wouldn't care about what happened with you in the past, since it's the past, not the present.
 * No one can possibly know what anyone else will think. Because Legilimency is fictional, and whatever the extent we can consciously identify ourselves.


 * Ninclow (talk) 10:55, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

This user vandalized the Founder pages. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:22, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Aura / Albus Dumbledore
I hate to bother you about this, but Ninclow made this edit to Dumbledore about how he studied "the methods used by the Master Aurologists of Sudan to sense" magic in the Horcrux cave. I tried to separate out the facts of what Dumbledore did versus the speculation in this edit. Ninclow didn't want to accept this and changed it again. On the [Talk:Albus_Dumbledore#Aura_.2F_Magical_Detection talk page] User:Kates39 agreed that it seems quite a leap to connect this pieces of information and state them as fact, instead of in a Behind the scenes comment, but that isn't listened to either.

Ninclow said they were using the wiki's definition of Aura, which when I checked isn't provided by the references listed. So I provided a clearer definition from the OED on this edit and it is repeatedly undone. No solution possible on Talk:Aura as they say " "aura" was described the traces of magical energy left behind by magical use/activity" without providing any examples or evidence in canon.

Not sure what to do - apparently you are the only arbiter capable of settling these things? Thoughts on how best to handle the situation as it seems to be an ongoing and repeated issue. Many thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 12:57, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

1) I did not say that "they were using the wikia's definition, I said that I used the definition from the page.On which aura had been defined as "a subtle field of magic", which did not only make sense with Dumbledore's comment that magic leave traces, how he located and identified the weakness payment but also fit perfectly with the manner in which Aurologists was mentioned.

2) I have no problem with people having another opinion than me, but when they start changing wiki content just because what was already there (and had been for some time) suggested I had a point, now THAT rubs me the wrong way.

3) I did provide a reference by elaborating on the context in which the word "aura" appear in Fantastic Beasts. If you choose to dismiss and/or ignore it or otherwise deem it to be insufficient evidence, that is hardly my fault. Ninclow (talk)

Hey
Hello Mr. Copper,

I am Reverb Frost. Well I have an idea.. I thought if possible then can we change the name of this wiki?? I mean if u think so! Like wat I have in mind is Harry potter wiki --> Potterverse wiki!! how is it?? I hope u like it and think on my idea of changing the name. Thanks for reading.. Have a nice day!!

Reverb frost (talk) 17:53, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Need a new Mod
Hey Seth, Since Jay has resigned from her Mod position we need a little extra help to keep the Discussions running smoothly. We have done a lot of research and consideration and us current Mods have all come to the conclusion that http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nylinajatii is the best choice for an additional Mod. She's very kind, helpful and clear, if you could promote her as soon as you can that would be great!Thanks! --TheOriginalDoctor (talk) 16:49, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Discussions Category Changes
Hey Seth, I'm glad your back we were starting to worry about you a little.

Anyways, Us Mods think it would be best if the 'Fun Fact' and 'Contest Questions' were deleted, since we are trying to make the Discussions have better quality and in-depth conversations. This is partly us trying to make the Discussions more suitable for Forum users for when the inevitable 'Merge' comes into place.

On that note, Is there any other specifics you would like us to make for the Discussions to be 'ready' or more suitable for the users and activities that are currently on the Forums? Let me know! --TheOriginalDoctor (talk) 15:04, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Family categories
I was hoping you could provide some guidance on how the family categories should be applied. If we look at Tom Riddle as an example, beyond "Riddle family" should he be part of the "Gaunt family", "Slytherin family", and "Peverelle family"? More over, should the Category tree itself place the "Gaunt family" under the "Slytherin family" so that all pages with the "Gaunt family" are automatically under "Slytherin family" as well?

Another example would be "Albus Potter" - in addition to being in "Potter family", should he be under "Weasely family", and "Prewett family", and even "Peverelle family"? It's not clear if the intent is to track genealogical relationships or just surnames (where only Molly is a member of both Weasely and Prewett, but not her children or grandchildren).

Unfortunately, the category tree is such a tangled mess that ensuring pages only have the most specific category is not doable in many cases. Thanks for any insight you have to help fix it! --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:20, April 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, will do. What a tangled web we weave... :) --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:57, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Pure-blood debate
Sorry to drag you into another etymological debate, but if you have a chance, your insight would be appreciated at Talk:Pure-blood. In re-reading all the Pure-blood related texts, I think the common definition of pure-blood (as all ancestors must be pure-blood) does not actually fit the evidence, especially that given in. Any thoughts you have are most welcome as always. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:39, May 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Have time for a quick chat? --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:13, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

Family categories
If you have a chance, can you take a look at Forum:Organizing_Family_categories and leave some feedback? I think the proposed solution will work, but want some input as it affects many pages. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:19, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

Film props and physical descriptors
When you have a chance, can you weigh in on Talk:Newton_Scamander please? We could use an interpretation of whether film props and other representations like FWC are suitable sources for physical descriptors of book characters. Kinda of an extension of the whole CC / Lavender Brown issue that we discussed a while back. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:10, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

"Inferi" articles
FYI, there is some oddity in pywikibot that is returning deleted pages when requesting RecentChanges. As such, the bot is resurrecting them and often tagging them with the Appearances notice. As you've had to re-delete some recently, I just wanted to let you know I'm working through to make sure they are filtered out in the future (although an inferi army has its uses - maybe the bot is seeking immortality ;) Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:17, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Uncivil
Understood. I'd suggest you tell Ironyak, who has caused my bad mood which is why I am uncivil, that he doesn't change pure-blood from that until a consensus has been reached; as you can probably see, it hasn't.--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:30, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

One, threats don't work - they make you nothing better than a common thug, but I shall try and hold my tongue. Right now, Ironyak is the last person I want anything to do with so an apology, if you deem it necessary, will have to wait until I have the desire to beat him/her senseless with their own arm out of my head. Give me a day or two. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:08, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Understood. Also, while we're here; one, I think you're reply is in the wrong section and "uncalled for" doesn't need a dash. And, probably more importantly, the person below this section is right...--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:27, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Well, by that standard, the blame lies with Ironyak too. The definition of "uncalled-for" is not called for or needed according to Merrian-Webster. He did not need to do what he did; he chose to do what he did - so there's equal blame. Cause and effect. Cause: Ironyak did what he/she did. Effect: See the last hour or so. I always thought it was uncalled for as I studied an English degree and was taught that way. Maybe it's just America? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:36, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

What Ironyak did that was uncalled for was this. Did anyone on this wiki ask (or need) for him to change the stuff on Blood statuses? No. He chose to re-read everything over on Pottermore again; we did not need him too. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:07, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Well, the articles are different. Different = change. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:16, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, mate...
I saw how you were sticking up for me about HarryPotterRuler1... I wasn't offended by what he said, but it did get me thinking, because I know I'm not anywhere close to being the easiest person to deal with and that I can let my temper get the best of me and all that. I just felt like thanking you, apologize for being so difficult (by nature, but still) and tell you how greatly I appreciate that you're pantient enough to keep me on here. :'-) Ninclow (talk) 00:30, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Can you fix it?
I've just added some references to Pandora Lovegood, but I don't know how to put them under a ref with a name. Can you sort it? Please and thank you? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:39, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind - you have vanished, so I asked Ironyak to do it. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:58, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Just a Heads up

 * The quotes dont really work on mobiles. Specifically, the one for Jacob Kowalski. Anyways, just wanted to let you know. Have a great day! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 01:08, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Can you?
Can you join me and Ironyak in the chat please? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:39, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Full Black Family tapestry
Do you know of a single image that contains the entire House of Black tapestry and is readable? The tapestry has members not on JKR's written Black Family Tree, but I can't find an image that has both the parts from the left and right of the door and is legible. I'm hoping you have or know of one as I want to make single ref for use on Pure-blood for all those members that were born or married into the House of Black and not disowned. (PS is the tapestry amazing in person? Leavesden is still on my bucket-list :) Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:23, May 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear that - both about the tapestry pic and Leavesden. Both give you a good excuse to go back at least! :) --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:04, May 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * It's an almost exact likeness! MinaLima's going to get themselves sued for libel sullying the family name like that. ;) --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:46, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

I might be able to help there I've been to Leavesden and took pictures of the tapestry. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 21:52, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hello Seth! This user http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ilovehpotter13579hvvcfvx has been rude and keeps on posting stuff that are not hp related and random. He/she keeps on breaking the rules despite several warnings. I propose a one month ban at least. Thank you!

Ban Request
Hello Seth! Can you please ban http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Juni_Chakma because of creating OT Conversations on EVERY discussion post despite already given a warning. I propose a one month ban. Also, the other ban request was by me,I forgot to sign my name lol. Thanks, Nylinajatii (talk) 22:24, May 18, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Quick chat?
Have 5 minutes to review something? --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:30, May 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * Still around and have a couple minutes to chat? --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:17, July 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Got a few minutes? --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:57, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

New Wordmark
Hi, since Wikia has a new format, I thought it might look better if the wordmark had a transparent background. This is what I made and I hope you adapt it to your wiki. Thanks.

Backstreet25865 (talk) 00:30, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Deleting Categories
Hey Seth, incase you've missed the request sent before, we Mods had agreed to delete the 'Fun Fact' and 'Contest Questions' category because it doesnt really start a discussion. It would be great if you could do it as soon as you can. Thanks, Nylinajatii (talk) 22:30, June 17, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Need Permission
Hello Mr. Copper,

Greetings.

My name is reverb frost. I am one of the members of this wiki. Recently I have created a new wiki named the celebrityverse and I wanna write a blog on this wiki publicising it. So I needed your permission to do so. I will write only one post and you can keep it open for a week and then you can close the discussion thread. I would be really happy if you would allow me. If u need any behavioural information about me then u can contact discussion moderator TheOriginalDoctor. Plz let me know about it as fast as possible.

Reverb frost (talk) 11:10, June 19, 2017 (UTC).

Ban Request
Hey Seth sorry to bother you but can you please ban ForUsChickenKick and SeverousLupin for a week or less due to rule breaking and insulting users. Thanks again! Nylinajatii (talk) 04:44, July 2, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

BAN REQUEST FOR RUPERT GRINT
Greetings Mr. Cooper

I come here on behalf of the discussion moderator of Harry Potter wiki. I guess all mods are asleep (time zone) and only Zoey is there and might have some technical issues due to which she might not be able to come here and hence  asked me to request u to ban the following guy. U might be aware of Rupert Grint guy who ha already caused a lot of trouble in past.. He is back once again. I request u to ban him permanently.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/32511940

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/32512346   (another fake account of rupert grint)

Following user supports the action of rupert grint guys plz bann him as well for a month if you can,

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:SurpressedG21

If u wish u can talk to Zoey to confirm weather she gave me this permission or not. I would request Immediate action if possible coz he is causing a lot of trouble.

Reverb frost (talk) 02:57, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

BTW Zoey is this user http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nylinajatii

Reverb frost (talk) 02:58, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Greetings,

Sorry but I have to come here too, Bcoz Same user is creating problem again and mods might be sleeping Bcoz of Time zone so I had to come here. User made another fake account here it is...

User.

Plz bann him/ her as soon as possible.

Eurus Allen : MAY SPEED FORCE BE WITH YOU (talk) 08:17, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

IP Ban Request
Greetings Seth, Can you please give an IP Ban to http://harrypotter.wikia.com.wiki/User:Ginnypotterboobskissing and their other accounts stated by Reverb. And for confirmation, I did ask him to send the request to you. Thank you! Nylinajatii (talk) 10:20, July 8, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Mod Permission
Greetings Seth!

So one of our Mods, http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dobby.77.free has decided to resign as a Moderator. She has left her reasons in this post http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/p/3059397734776702034

Due to Dobbs leaving, we will need a new Mod to fill up the position. We have chosen http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:SiriuslyPotty as he is the best choice. He is very helpful and reliable to us. It would mean alot if you could promote him when you can. Thank you for your time! Nylinajatii (talk) 21:34, July 26, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Template question
Hi, Seth! I have found two templates for the deletion of templates and I wonder where is the difference? I mean Template:Tdeprecated and Template:Tfd. Perhaps you can explain me.  Harry granger   Talk    contribs  12:59, July 29, 2017 (UTC)


 * Ah, I understand. Template:Tdeprecated is for bringing to admins attention for having a look and Template:Tfd is directly for deleting.  Harry granger   Talk    contribs  16:21, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Henry Shaw Jr Behind The Scenes
Seth Copper, Your recent edit/ deletion for my Henry Shaw Jr entry was right but mostly wrong. My recently added initial link was unnecessary.

Your stated reason for deletion was wrong. In my entry I stated that James Walker was a NYS Senator in 1926, the date of Fantastic Beasts. I did so bc I knew that Shaw Jr was a US Senator. Normally close enough with the added context I provided. Which was: just as the actor playing Credence was deliberately chosen bc of his resemblance to Buster Keaton, the same thing happened when choosing Josh Cowdary for the role of Shaw Jr. Except it was never stated as such by the makers of the movie. Cowdary's resemblance to Walker is unmistakable as my entry stated. Jon Voight's newspaper publisher does resemble WR Hearst except that Hearst is usually depicted with dyed dark hair.

James Walker represented Roaring Twenties NYC by way of charisma and corruption. The Fantastic Beasts Nov 2016 release in the US strangely coincided with the Nov US election. Jon Voight gave the fatal dinner for his son Shaw Jr AND gave the intro speech for the Trump inaugural.

My entry minus the initial link should be reenstated. Is the present Behind The Scenes entry inaccurate? No. It just has zero relevance to what the movie was depicting. Theunpossiblefile (talk) 00:38, August 5, 2017 (UTC)

Seth Cooper Your recent edit to the Senator Henry Shaw page was arbitrary. The recessive 4-Chan cracked smile on your avatar says it all regarding your edit of this particular entry which had current political overtones. You're the perfect bureaucrat in every way possible. Literal and tone deft when convenient. The more I engage you the more deliberate duckspeak doublethink I'll get in return. Theunpossiblefile (talk) 21:28, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Family Tree Infobox
Good evening, I'm a wiki administrator and I've been using your genealogy template and I wanted to ask you how to modify that template so they don't fill the page. Add a code or something to decrease its size and could be "up and down", as in the Black, but instead of moving horizontally, could also move vertically. I don't know if I understood myself well, thank you very much in advance. And sorry by my english, I'm not good speaking this language.

Granting rights
Seth, could you grant me bureaucrat rights? I believe we discussed this possibility sometime last year. This wiki needs more rollbackers and admins to hold down the fort. With two bureaucrats, the chances of falling behind on rights request is less likely, as chances are at least once of us will be around at any given time. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 02:35, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Longbottom family tree
Would you be able to update the family tree at Longbottom family when you have a chance? Specifically, it needs to be updated to list Mr Longbottom as Frank's father instead of "Unidentified," Algie as the brother of Mr Longbottom, and Enid as Algie's wife. These relationships were confirmed recently on Pottermore. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 05:59, August 24, 2017 (UTC)