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RE:About the "what the heck sction"
In response to your reply as well as C.Sydes input:


 * So... Yeah, I don't really know what else there is to say. I JUST finished telling you about how I couldn't ignore it because it's upsetting me on a personal level, and your advise is to ignore it. Sorry, chief, had this been literary ANY other discussion I've ever partaken in, I'd prudently just bow my head and respected your decision, bathing in the light of your wisdom and guiding hand and all that, but with this one, to expect me just to "ignore" it isn't good enough to make me comfortable with it being there, because whether keeping it there is intended to showcase my shortcomings or not doesn't make a lick of a difference, because regardless, that's exactly what that section does. Sorry for being so blunt, but seriously... "Rules", "policies", whatever you want to call it - "discussion", "debate" whatever label you choose to give the section to justify keeping it, it's not going to make me feel any better about it being there. Now that I remember it is there, as long as it is, I will spend about 100% of my energy lamenting about what a horrible person I am and nil at appreciating whatever progress I may or may not have made. Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult, but self-confidence isn't anything to write home about, and thus, that's just how my head work.


 * An important part of being a good editor is being able to take constructive criticism.
 * In what way does keeping a so-called discussion where I lost my temper and treated people disrepectfully equal "constructive criticism?" Because I can tell you,  a so-called discussion where I lost my temper and treated people disrepectfully is not a shining example of "constructive criticism", it's still just  a so-called discussion where I lost my temper and treated people disrepectfully.


 * Regardless it doesn't mean you can remove the discussion from the page and pretend it didn't happen.And I'm not going to. As you can see in my discussion about whether Newt was expelled or not, I daresay I have come a long way since then, but that's beside the point. The point is that when I see the "What the heck?!" section, I don't automatically think; "Aaaaaw, see how bad I was then and how much better I am now, that's nice!", I get furious at myself, I start disliking myself, and end up in a very dimly lit place. I've visited it one time to many and do not care to do so again. The service is crappy and the rooms are bad.


 * These things happen, people do all kinds of things on the internet that they regret. it's how they learn from them.
 * Removing a failure to treat people respectfully from public view is not the same as pretending it didn't happen or that I didn't learn from it, it's merely a way for me to prevent myself from forgetting how and why I learned from it by being too busy beating myself up over bad choices to appreciate any potential progress.


 * I've done things on the internet that I'm not proud of. But I accept them and move on.
 * Not wanting to look at something is not the same as not accepting. For example, I had a rat in my apartment, and although I don't want to look at the picture my brother took of it with his phone after we found it dead in a trap, I sure accept that it was there and that I have to buy a new dishwasher because of it.


 * I suggest you do the same.
 * I'm trying to, but the "standard procedures" won't let me.


 * Most people probably wouldn't care about what happened with you in the past, since it's the past, not the present.
 * No one can possibly know what anyone else will think. Because Legilimency is fictional, and whatever the extent we can consciously identify ourselves.


 * Ninclow (talk) 10:55, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

This user vandalized the Founder pages. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:22, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Aura / Albus Dumbledore
I hate to bother you about this, but Ninclow made this edit to Dumbledore about how he studied "the methods used by the Master Aurologists of Sudan to sense" magic in the Horcrux cave. I tried to separate out the facts of what Dumbledore did versus the speculation in this edit. Ninclow didn't want to accept this and changed it again. On the [Talk:Albus_Dumbledore#Aura_.2F_Magical_Detection talk page] User:Kates39 agreed that it seems quite a leap to connect this pieces of information and state them as fact, instead of in a Behind the scenes comment, but that isn't listened to either.

Ninclow said they were using the wiki's definition of Aura, which when I checked isn't provided by the references listed. So I provided a clearer definition from the OED on this edit and it is repeatedly undone. No solution possible on Talk:Aura as they say " "aura" was described the traces of magical energy left behind by magical use/activity" without providing any examples or evidence in canon.

Not sure what to do - apparently you are the only arbiter capable of settling these things? Thoughts on how best to handle the situation as it seems to be an ongoing and repeated issue. Many thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 12:57, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

1) I did not say that "they were using the wikia's definition, I said that I used the definition from the page.On which aura had been defined as "a subtle field of magic", which did not only make sense with Dumbledore's comment that magic leave traces, how he located and identified the weakness payment but also fit perfectly with the manner in which Aurologists was mentioned.

2) I have no problem with people having another opinion than me, but when they start changing wiki content just because what was already there (and had been for some time) suggested I had a point, now THAT rubs me the wrong way.

3) I did provide a reference by elaborating on the context in which the word "aura" appear in Fantastic Beasts. If you choose to dismiss and/or ignore it or otherwise deem it to be insufficient evidence, that is hardly my fault. Ninclow (talk)

Hey
Hello Mr. Copper,

I am Reverb Frost. Well I have an idea.. I thought if possible then can we change the name of this wiki?? I mean if u think so! Like wat I have in mind is Harry potter wiki --> Potterverse wiki!! how is it?? I hope u like it and think on my idea of changing the name. Thanks for reading.. Have a nice day!!

Reverb frost (talk) 17:53, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Need a new Mod
Hey Seth, Since Jay has resigned from her Mod position we need a little extra help to keep the Discussions running smoothly. We have done a lot of research and consideration and us current Mods have all come to the conclusion that http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nylinajatii is the best choice for an additional Mod. She's very kind, helpful and clear, if you could promote her as soon as you can that would be great!Thanks! --TheOriginalDoctor (talk) 16:49, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Discussions Category Changes
Hey Seth, I'm glad your back we were starting to worry about you a little.

Anyways, Us Mods think it would be best if the 'Fun Fact' and 'Contest Questions' were deleted, since we are trying to make the Discussions have better quality and in-depth conversations. This is partly us trying to make the Discussions more suitable for Forum users for when the inevitable 'Merge' comes into place.

On that note, Is there any other specifics you would like us to make for the Discussions to be 'ready' or more suitable for the users and activities that are currently on the Forums? Let me know! --TheOriginalDoctor (talk) 15:04, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Family categories
I was hoping you could provide some guidance on how the family categories should be applied. If we look at Tom Riddle as an example, beyond "Riddle family" should he be part of the "Gaunt family", "Slytherin family", and "Peverelle family"? More over, should the Category tree itself place the "Gaunt family" under the "Slytherin family" so that all pages with the "Gaunt family" are automatically under "Slytherin family" as well?

Another example would be "Albus Potter" - in addition to being in "Potter family", should he be under "Weasely family", and "Prewett family", and even "Peverelle family"? It's not clear if the intent is to track genealogical relationships or just surnames (where only Molly is a member of both Weasely and Prewett, but not her children or grandchildren).

Unfortunately, the category tree is such a tangled mess that ensuring pages only have the most specific category is not doable in many cases. Thanks for any insight you have to help fix it! --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:20, April 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, will do. What a tangled web we weave... :) --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:57, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Pure-blood debate
Sorry to drag you into another etymological debate, but if you have a chance, your insight would be appreciated at Talk:Pure-blood. In re-reading all the Pure-blood related texts, I think the common definition of pure-blood (as all ancestors must be pure-blood) does not actually fit the evidence, especially that given in. Any thoughts you have are most welcome as always. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:39, May 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Have time for a quick chat? --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:13, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

Family categories
If you have a chance, can you take a look at Forum:Organizing_Family_categories and leave some feedback? I think the proposed solution will work, but want some input as it affects many pages. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:19, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

Film props and physical descriptors
When you have a chance, can you weigh in on Talk:Newton_Scamander please? We could use an interpretation of whether film props and other representations like FWC are suitable sources for physical descriptors of book characters. Kinda of an extension of the whole CC / Lavender Brown issue that we discussed a while back. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:10, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

"Inferi" articles
FYI, there is some oddity in pywikibot that is returning deleted pages when requesting RecentChanges. As such, the bot is resurrecting them and often tagging them with the Appearances notice. As you've had to re-delete some recently, I just wanted to let you know I'm working through to make sure they are filtered out in the future (although an inferi army has its uses - maybe the bot is seeking immortality ;) Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:17, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Uncivil
Understood. I'd suggest you tell Ironyak, who has caused my bad mood which is why I am uncivil, that he doesn't change pure-blood from that until a consensus has been reached; as you can probably see, it hasn't.--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:30, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

One, threats don't work - they make you nothing better than a common thug, but I shall try and hold my tongue. Right now, Ironyak is the last person I want anything to do with so an apology, if you deem it necessary, will have to wait until I have the desire to beat him/her senseless with their own arm out of my head. Give me a day or two. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:08, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Understood. Also, while we're here; one, I think you're reply is in the wrong section and "uncalled for" doesn't need a dash. And, probably more importantly, the person below this section is right...--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:27, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Well, by that standard, the blame lies with Ironyak too. The definition of "uncalled-for" is not called for or needed according to Merrian-Webster. He did not need to do what he did; he chose to do what he did - so there's equal blame. Cause and effect. Cause: Ironyak did what he/she did. Effect: See the last hour or so. I always thought it was uncalled for as I studied an English degree and was taught that way. Maybe it's just America? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:36, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

What Ironyak did that was uncalled for was this. Did anyone on this wiki ask (or need) for him to change the stuff on Blood statuses? No. He chose to re-read everything over on Pottermore again; we did not need him too. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:07, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Well, the articles are different. Different = change. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:16, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, mate...
I saw how you were sticking up for me about HarryPotterRuler1... I wasn't offended by what he said, but it did get me thinking, because I know I'm not anywhere close to being the easiest person to deal with and that I can let my temper get the best of me and all that. I just felt like thanking you, apologize for being so difficult (by nature, but still) and tell you how greatly I appreciate that you're pantient enough to keep me on here. :'-) Ninclow (talk) 00:30, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Can you fix it?
I've just added some references to Pandora Lovegood, but I don't know how to put them under a ref with a name. Can you sort it? Please and thank you? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:39, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind - you have vanished, so I asked Ironyak to do it. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:58, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Just a Heads up

 * The quotes dont really work on mobiles. Specifically, the one for Jacob Kowalski. Anyways, just wanted to let you know. Have a great day! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 01:08, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Can you?
Can you join me and Ironyak in the chat please? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:39, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Full Black Family tapestry
Do you know of a single image that contains the entire House of Black tapestry and is readable? The tapestry has members not on JKR's written Black Family Tree, but I can't find an image that has both the parts from the left and right of the door and is legible. I'm hoping you have or know of one as I want to make single ref for use on Pure-blood for all those members that were born or married into the House of Black and not disowned. (PS is the tapestry amazing in person? Leavesden is still on my bucket-list :) Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:23, May 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear that - both about the tapestry pic and Leavesden. Both give you a good excuse to go back at least! :) --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:04, May 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * It's an almost exact likeness! MinaLima's going to get themselves sued for libel sullying the family name like that. ;) --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:46, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

I might be able to help there I've been to Leavesden and took pictures of the tapestry. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 21:52, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hello Seth! This user http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ilovehpotter13579hvvcfvx has been rude and keeps on posting stuff that are not hp related and random. He/she keeps on breaking the rules despite several warnings. I propose a one month ban at least. Thank you!

Ban Request
Hello Seth! Can you please ban http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Juni_Chakma because of creating OT Conversations on EVERY discussion post despite already given a warning. I propose a one month ban. Also, the other ban request was by me,I forgot to sign my name lol. Thanks, Nylinajatii (talk) 22:24, May 18, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Quick chat?
Have 5 minutes to review something? --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:30, May 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * Still around and have a couple minutes to chat? --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:17, July 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Got a few minutes? --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:57, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

New Wordmark
Hi, since Wikia has a new format, I thought it might look better if the wordmark had a transparent background. This is what I made and I hope you adapt it to your wiki. Thanks.

Backstreet25865 (talk) 00:30, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Deleting Categories
Hey Seth, incase you've missed the request sent before, we Mods had agreed to delete the 'Fun Fact' and 'Contest Questions' category because it doesnt really start a discussion. It would be great if you could do it as soon as you can. Thanks, Nylinajatii (talk) 22:30, June 17, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Need Permission
Hello Mr. Copper,

Greetings.

My name is reverb frost. I am one of the members of this wiki. Recently I have created a new wiki named the celebrityverse and I wanna write a blog on this wiki publicising it. So I needed your permission to do so. I will write only one post and you can keep it open for a week and then you can close the discussion thread. I would be really happy if you would allow me. If u need any behavioural information about me then u can contact discussion moderator TheOriginalDoctor. Plz let me know about it as fast as possible.

Reverb frost (talk) 11:10, June 19, 2017 (UTC).

Ban Request
Hey Seth sorry to bother you but can you please ban ForUsChickenKick and SeverousLupin for a week or less due to rule breaking and insulting users. Thanks again! Nylinajatii (talk) 04:44, July 2, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

BAN REQUEST FOR RUPERT GRINT
Greetings Mr. Cooper

I come here on behalf of the discussion moderator of Harry Potter wiki. I guess all mods are asleep (time zone) and only Zoey is there and might have some technical issues due to which she might not be able to come here and hence  asked me to request u to ban the following guy. U might be aware of Rupert Grint guy who ha already caused a lot of trouble in past.. He is back once again. I request u to ban him permanently.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/32511940

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/32512346   (another fake account of rupert grint)

Following user supports the action of rupert grint guys plz bann him as well for a month if you can,

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:SurpressedG21

If u wish u can talk to Zoey to confirm weather she gave me this permission or not. I would request Immediate action if possible coz he is causing a lot of trouble.

Reverb frost (talk) 02:57, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

BTW Zoey is this user http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nylinajatii

Reverb frost (talk) 02:58, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Greetings,

Sorry but I have to come here too, Bcoz Same user is creating problem again and mods might be sleeping Bcoz of Time zone so I had to come here. User made another fake account here it is...

User.

Plz bann him/ her as soon as possible.

Eurus Allen : MAY SPEED FORCE BE WITH YOU (talk) 08:17, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

IP Ban Request
Greetings Seth, Can you please give an IP Ban to http://harrypotter.wikia.com.wiki/User:Ginnypotterboobskissing and their other accounts stated by Reverb. And for confirmation, I did ask him to send the request to you. Thank you! Nylinajatii (talk) 10:20, July 8, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Mod Permission
Greetings Seth!

So one of our Mods, http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dobby.77.free has decided to resign as a Moderator. She has left her reasons in this post http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/p/3059397734776702034

Due to Dobbs leaving, we will need a new Mod to fill up the position. We have chosen http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:SiriuslyPotty as he is the best choice. He is very helpful and reliable to us. It would mean alot if you could promote him when you can. Thank you for your time! Nylinajatii (talk) 21:34, July 26, 2017 (UTC)Nylinajatii

Template question
Hi, Seth! I have found two templates for the deletion of templates and I wonder where is the difference? I mean Template:Tdeprecated and Template:Tfd. Perhaps you can explain me.  Harry granger   Talk    contribs  12:59, July 29, 2017 (UTC)


 * Ah, I understand. Template:Tdeprecated is for bringing to admins attention for having a look and Template:Tfd is directly for deleting.  Harry granger   Talk    contribs  16:21, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Henry Shaw Jr Behind The Scenes
Seth Copper, Your recent edit/ deletion for my Henry Shaw Jr entry was right but mostly wrong. My recently added initial link was unnecessary.

Your stated reason for deletion was wrong. In my entry I stated that James Walker was a NYS Senator in 1926, the date of Fantastic Beasts. I did so bc I knew that Shaw Jr was a US Senator. Normally close enough with the added context I provided. Which was: just as the actor playing Credence was deliberately chosen bc of his resemblance to Buster Keaton, the same thing happened when choosing Josh Cowdary for the role of Shaw Jr. Except it was never stated as such by the makers of the movie. Cowdary's resemblance to Walker is unmistakable as my entry stated. Jon Voight's newspaper publisher does resemble WR Hearst except that Hearst is usually depicted with dyed dark hair.

James Walker represented Roaring Twenties NYC by way of charisma and corruption. The Fantastic Beasts Nov 2016 release in the US strangely coincided with the Nov US election. Jon Voight gave the fatal dinner for his son Shaw Jr AND gave the intro speech for the Trump inaugural.

My entry minus the initial link should be reenstated. Is the present Behind The Scenes entry inaccurate? No. It just has zero relevance to what the movie was depicting. Theunpossiblefile (talk) 00:38, August 5, 2017 (UTC)

Seth Cooper Your recent edit to the Senator Henry Shaw page was arbitrary. The recessive 4-Chan cracked smile on your avatar says it all regarding your edit of this particular entry which had current political overtones. You're the perfect bureaucrat in every way possible. Literal and tone deft when convenient. The more I engage you the more deliberate duckspeak doublethink I'll get in return. Theunpossiblefile (talk) 21:28, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Family Tree Infobox
Good evening, I'm a wiki administrator and I've been using your genealogy template and I wanted to ask you how to modify that template so they don't fill the page. Add a code or something to decrease its size and could be "up and down", as in the Black, but instead of moving horizontally, could also move vertically. I don't know if I understood myself well, thank you very much in advance. And sorry by my english, I'm not good speaking this language.

Granting rights
Seth, could you grant me bureaucrat rights? I believe we discussed this possibility sometime last year. This wiki needs more rollbackers and admins to hold down the fort. With two bureaucrats, the chances of falling behind on rights request is less likely, as chances are at least once of us will be around at any given time. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 02:35, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Longbottom family tree
Would you be able to update the family tree at Longbottom family when you have a chance? Specifically, it needs to be updated to list Mr Longbottom as Frank's father instead of "Unidentified," Algie as the brother of Mr Longbottom, and Enid as Algie's wife. These relationships were confirmed recently on Pottermore. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 05:59, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

New HP Discussion MOD
Greetings Seth!

Due to some of our current MOD team being no longer active, we have decided to bring a new highly active member into the Harry Potty MOD team. We have chosen http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Drag0na_v as she is the best choice. She is very helpful and active, with great member relationship skills. It would mean alot if you could promote her when you can. Thank you for your time!

Marc

New HP Wiki Category - FAQ
Hi Seth,

In a move to better explain both the intent of the wiki and answer some frequently asked questions, the MODs on the Harry Potter wiki would like to start a new Category- The FAQ Category. The intent is to have all FAQs in an easily accessable and searchable area that we can also link to new users. Posts will be MOD only and locked to maximize search efficiency.

If you could please create the new Category at your earliest convenience it'd be greatly appreciated.

Regards harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:SiriuslyPotty SiriuslyPotty (talk) 07:22, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Account Ban request
Greetings Seth,

Unfortunately due to repeat infractions a couple of our members have agreed it's best if their accounts are Banned. Please Perma Ban Mr.CRD-360-ABD on Harry Potter. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/32487239 and JusticeBlack on Harry Potter. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/32904697

We also feel a 2 week ban for Hedwig987 is appropriate as a cool off period for responses to Mr CRDs posts. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/u/31856195

Thanks for your time SiriuslyPotty (talk)

Account Ban request
Greetings Seth!

Can you please ban http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:AVADAA_KEDAVRAA and http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Potterrheadd. Both for multiple infractions including Inappropriate language, insulting other users, use of foreign language and OT coversation in non OT threads

Thanks, SiriuslyPotty (talk) 09:25, September 23 2017

Could you additionaly ban User:Luke%20Sales for multiple messages promoting his services and being repetively OT in non OT threads. CosmicChronos | Sweden, the land of Meatballs 17:34, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

HP Lexicon question
Is the HP Lexicon a valid source? I only ask because it includes a page called Confrontation at the Chateau which states that "Five Aurors attempt to capture Gellert Grindelwald at his remote, derelict chateau somewhere in Switzerland. The five approach the chateau only to be blasted by a “sudden explosion of pure white light” that throws them back and appears to have killed them. From this confrontation, Grindelwald travels to the United States of America to track down an Obscurial which he saw in a vision. Once there he impersonates Percival Graves, one of the most powerful Aurors in MACUSA, and tries to find out who the Obscurial is."

This "remote, derelict chateau somewhere in Switzerland" - should we take it as canon? The building we see here certanly is a  chateau, as confirmed in the script. That it is in  Switzerland I think was confirmed by how the first scene in the movie showed Grindelwald make short work of five Aurors trying to sneak up on the place and President Picquery later accusing  Heinrich Eberstadt of letting Grinelwald slip through his finger, implying, if not confirming outright, that while he has a presence within international wizarding relations, domestically he is of high standing in magical law enforcement and led/oversaw the search for Grindelwald in his country.

In any case, I just wondered what your opinion were? Ninclow (talk) 12:51, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

Would it be okay if I made a page for the chateau? Also, why is it that pages made about Fantastic Beasts tends to be so much less detailed than most others? Ninclow (talk) 03:16, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

I don't know, I just think that if you look on the pages of Tina, Queenie, Jacob, Mary Lu, the account of the events they lived thrugh feel kind of rushed and not as fleshed out as the pages of let's say Gilderoy Lockhart. Could just be me, though. ^^' Ninclow (talk) 02:29, September 30, 2017 (UTC)

Ilvermorny Crest
Why do you keep adding back that old Ilvermorny crest? The new one is brand new and updated with the new House crests; the old one has all the old crests. Being the larger version is not a good reason to change a better and more updated picture. Tremewitch127 (talk) 17:40, September 30, 2017 (UTC) Tremewitch127

Requests for Permissions
Hey! So on the RFP page I asked to be made admin as to better be able to manage the discussions, and also my increase in interest towards articles, and so I wondered if something had to like happen, for example you call a vote for that or something, at least that's how I understood how it works, please correct me if I am wrong. Anyways I wondered if you could check on the RFP unless you already have? Cheers, CosmicChronos | Sweden, the land of Meatballs 02:32, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Ban User
Hello Seth! User:Turn_on_page_394 has repetively insulted people and gone against the rules, example:http://harrypotter.wikia.com/d/p/3100000000000023217/r/3087807785174649917

Discussions moderation/blocking help
Hi Seth,

As you know from the requests you get periodically, sometimes users in Discussions need to be blocked. It would be a time-saver for both you and the mods if someone actively monitoring Discussions was able to set those blocks. One of the mods has even applied for adminship specifically for this reason, as you may have seen.

I have another solution to propose. One of the longtime Discussions users, Reverb frost, has recently joined the "Global Discussions Moderator" volunteer group. This group has the ability to set local blocks, though this is only used on communities where staff has assigned them to help out. Harry Potter Wiki Discussions are well-moderated and so don't need the help of this group. However, with your permission, Reverb frost could help out and set blocks for Discussions users when needed.

Yet another option to consider is that we could allow the local Discussions Moderator group to set blocks. This is a permissions change on the wiki than FANDOM can make. Some other communities with active Discussions, such as Fallout Wiki and The Walking Dead Wiki, have decided to do this and it's worked out well. If you were thinking about promoting CosmicChronos to admin, this is an alternative that would not require giving him the full admin rights. All the local Discussions Moderators would have the block ability, in this scenario.

In either case, you and the other admins would of course have final say on any blocks and could remove them at your discretion. Let me know what you think about these options. Thanks! -BertH (help forum | blog) 19:18, October 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Great! I have make the permissions changes and now members of the Discussions Moderator group can use Special:Block to set blocks. Were you interested in Reverb frost helping out as well, either using his global abilities or (to be more formal about it) making him a local moderator as well? In either case it's up to you. -BertH (help forum | blog) 17:12, October 6, 2017 (UTC)

Canon policy
Hi, Seth. I think we need to start some kind of debate/site-wide consensus about a slightly revised version of some parts of the canon policy and how it is treated in the articles on the wiki, because in some cases, I am looking at articles and the arguments for why they are how they are on the talk pages, and don't know if I should laugh or cry. Ninclow (talk) 23:30, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Well, the first thing, and also the one I suspect would be the issue most easily resolved, is that I have been discussing with HarryPotterRules1 because he maintains that Griphook was killed in Malfoy Manor by Voldemort after the Gringotts breakin. I disagree because the book states that there was only one goblin in the room in the book, as opposed to two or three plus a bunch of Gringotts guards in the movie. Now, I am fully aware that the policy states that as long as it doesn't contradict the book, the movie is canon. He insist the goblin in the book was Griphook because the goblin wasn't identified and could have been him. When I try to reason that Harry saw the goblin killed through Voldemort's eyes and didn't mentally ackowledge or otherwise identify the goblin as Griphook, even though the goblin were facing him, which logically would mean that Harry don't know that particular goblin. But then he starts talking about that the wiki is a democracy, not a dictatorship and that for me to remove Griphook's movie death require consensus. Apparently, until I have it, regardless of wether the book itself implies that said goblin is Griphook or indeed if Rowling herself intended it to be Griphook or not is unimportant, because consensus hasn't been reached. If the policy allows 'maybe's' like that, I think there are flaws to be corrected in it. Ninclow (talk) 00:15, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

''The sky, the smell of the lake water, the sound of Ron's voice were extinguished. Pain cleaved Harry's head like a sword stroke. He was standing in a dimly lit room, and a semicircle of wizards faced him, and on the floor at his feet knelt a small, quaking figure. "What did you say to me?" '''His voice was high and cold, but fury and fear burned inside him. The one thing that he had dreaded - but it could not be true, he could not see how... The goblin was trembling, unable to meet the red eyes high above his.''

''"Say it again!" murmured Voldemort. "Say it again!" '''

''"M-my Lord," stammered the goblin, its black eyes wide with terror, "m-my Lord... we t-tried to st-stop them... Im-impostors, my Lord... broke - broke into the - into the Lestranges' vault..." ''

"Impostors? What impostors? I thought Gringotts had ways of revealing impostors? Who were they?"

''"'It was... it was... the P-Potter b-boy and the t-two accomplices..." ''

''"And they took?" he said, his voice rising, a terrible fear gripping him, '"Tell me! What did they take?" ''

"A... a s-small golden c-cup m-my Lord..."

''The scream of rage, of denial left him as if it were a stranger's. He was crazed, frenzied, it could not be true, it was impossible, nobody had known. How was it possible that the boy could have discovered his secret? The Elder Wand slashed through the air and green light erupted through the room; the kneeling goblin rolled over dead; the watching wizards scattered before him, terrified. Bellatrix and Lucius Malfoy threw others behind them in their race for the door, and again and again his wand fell, and those who were left were slain, all of them, for bringing him this news, for hearing about the golden cup.'' As you can see from the scene:

One goblin among wizards, most if not all DEs since there is no mention (or reason for being) any Gringotts guards present. And it is not Griphook, because Harry don't recognise him, meaning parts of the movie scene contradicts the book. Ninclow (talk) 03:10, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

So... Since the movie's depiction of Griphook being present, that would mean I can then change the article to reflect the fact that we have no first-tier valid information about what happened to him after the breakin, since first-tier invalidates his appearance in that scene in the movie? Ninclow (talk) 20:04, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Sorry for not just come to you right away, it's just... HarryPotterRules1 tends to push the exact wrong buttons - or, shall we say the right ones - to get me all fired up. ^^'  That being said, I had an other issue I was curious if we could address as well? Ninclow (talk) 23:39, October 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, it is about the policy regarding, or perhaps what seems to be the common perception of the policy, regarding book characters. I don't remember who, but there was someoen who added some details regarding Newton Scamander's physical characteristics from this page to the infobox on Newt's page, and Ironyak1 continiously removed it because it wasn't "valid" enough. First, I was under the impression of, because it depicted details originating from the physical appearance of the actor, and then later because they came from a film and Newt supposedly was a "book character". If this is something there have been consensus about or the policy support, I think it is a gross mistake. Yes, Fantastic Beast and Where to Find Them was written from an in-universe perspective, but that doesn't make Newt a "book character".


 * The way I see it, he is a character from the wizarding world of JKR. And yes, while I understand and agree that movie props are second-tier canon, a book isn't just a book. What kind of book it is and what purpose it serves both in-universe as well as practically speaking is very important, as it tells us what it is reasonable to take out of it and what isn't. If the movie description of Newt isn't to be used because he doesn't have one in his "book", then we shall never have one at all, because the book in question is one of world building, not one of story-telling that is meant to tell us anything about the character other than spesifically what the in-universe "author of the book" is "comfortable" or "permitted" to talk about/deems relevant. Differenting between Newt the Author and Newt the Character in this respect, I think is relevant when building up information about him.


 * And when we see Eddie Redmayne on the big screen in his blue coat and brown case, or any other character that does not physically appear in the Harry Potter series or who doesn't appear at all, I think we should take ever bit of information from it we possibly can because when he appears in that setting, we aren't looking at the actor. For every intent and purpoes, we are looking at the character of Newt Scamander. Limiting ourselves to the scripts means we miss out on a whole lot about characters, and the thing is - they're not in the Harry Potter book, and the first-tier scripts is what on which they are based. The actors portraying the roles will never really contradict the script because the character either would've been made with the actor in mind, or the actor is dressed out to appear as the characters, and for every intent and purposes, is that character, so everything from bushy eyebrows to high cheekbones and so forth is relevant, and should be treated as something the actor and the character they portray have in common as opposed to being soupposedly "invalidated" by not being consistent with a book in which they don't appear.


 * There are some exceptions, of course, like the ridiculous contact lenses Depp had in the movie, while the script describes him as blue-eyed. But as for the characters in the FB franchise, I think it reasonable that everything in the movie not contradicted in the script should be passable as something between first and second-tier canon since Rowling writes the screenplays and the movies therefore to a greater extent serve as the physical manifistations of her vision than the Harry Potter books, which by contrast was more of a cinematic intepretation of her books by David Yates. The HP films are more books interpretated and turned into films by an outsider, while the FB films is Rowling's stories shown to us directly in the same format, making the FB movies more or less on pair with the Harry Potter books in terms of canonicy, lest the movie subtly contradicts the screenplay, which is exactly on pair with the books in terms of canonicy. In short, to determine what can and what cannot be taken as canon by the wikia, treating all books and all movies the same is not a good idea and can to some extent both be rather counterproductive as well as lessen the integrity of the wiki by ignoring or otherwise leaving out completely valid information because they aren't "important" enough. the nature of the source should be considered, not the format of the source. Treating the HP and FB film series the same is illogical. Ninclow (talk) 15:14, October 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Bump. Ninclow (talk) 01:40, October 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * I feel like the key word in your response were "preferable". Because one cannot treat the HP films and the FB films the same, especially since a vast majority of characters from the latter series don't have and never will have a book description to contradict them. Not to mention that Lavender Brown is such an unimportant side-character until book 6 that inconsistencies is to expected. We are, however, not talking about students Harry never talked to until Rowling squeezed them in to lengthen the chapter of her book, but of significant characters with clearly defined identites and repeated appearances such as Newt, Tina, Jacob, Seraphina Picquery, Abernathy, ect. And again, in the latter film series, unless there is a magnificent time jump, the actors of these individuals won't change, and even if they do, the appearance of the actors filling their shoes will definitively be based on the appearances of their successors as to make them identifiable to the viewers as the character in question. (Although graying beard and hair and adding wrinkles to them works just as well, so it isn't certain they will be changed in any case). Ninclow (talk) 17:00, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello, I'm Victoria from Dumbledore's Army RP Wiki (DARP) and I was wondering if I could possibly use Template:Potions Club as a roster for the actual roleplayed Potions club on DARP? I don't exactly know who else to ask to use it, but I'm willing to give credit on the page I use it on.

Queen of Anarchy (talk) 03:43, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

A title should go here. Name it whatever you like, Seth!
Hey,

Just wanted to know if cursing was allowed on this Wikia. Because a friend named HarryPotterRules1 recently cursed me over Lucius Malfoy's death info. I would greatly appreciate it if you inform him that adding assumptions or personal point of view on any character or event related to any literary creation violates the copyright law. My friend believes that Lucius Malfoy was actually declared dead by the author herself owing to some specific valuable words of Draco in "Cursed child". It would be the world to me if you kindly make him understand that mentioning of a person in past tense, Doesn't actually make him Dead.

Hope you are having a nice day!

Cheers! SeerLeviosa (talk) 15:32, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

First of all, we're not friends. Secondly, I have canon behind me. Thirdly, as the above... ahem... nuisance... has caused an edit war, can they be banished? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 17:47, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

RE:
What happened, Seth, was that I reverted something SeerLeviosa had said and wrote (WTF SeerLeviosa. Do not remove information...) and they took offence. That's all.

Also, I did not demand an apology. I said I'd like one (I seem to remember occasions where I have been made to apologise even if I didn't want too - so it's fair game here and hypocritical if you don't make them.) and if I DIDN'T get one, then I'd go over her head and ask you to force her too. That is LITERALLY all that has happened. So don't threaten me...HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 20:31, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

I'm starting to understand why Ninclow is perpetually angry as once again you are not on my side. I'll apologise - on the condition that SeerLeviosa is told off (an eye for an eye, after all.) HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 23:14, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

I brought Ninclow into it as he never seems to win in an argument with you admins - literally everything they have suggested has been shot down. I'll apologise. Forgive, yes. Forget that she snitched, ''never. ''HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 23:41, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

It wasn't intended to sound insincere; it was merely something for him/her to note. I've apologised to them, but for a while, at least, I cannot trust them to not snitch about something I post and something that was not intended to be offensive. Yes, I called him/her a nuisance - at the time they were being a nuisance; someone did ask for an admin to lock the page due to the edit was caused by her, after all. The main reason I accuse them of snitching is because of what they posted on your page - they posted it on several admin pages and got you involved instead of talking to me and explaining their point. They went straight to you and snitched on it. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:07, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Not to snoop, Seth, but I saw this discussion and just wanted to thank you for defending me like you did. I know I can get a bit fired up and on one occassion in particular went over the line, but the last thing I want is to burden you or the wiki in any way. If I ever do, please, tell me, and I shall leave on my own accord. Oh, and for future reference, I'm a he. ^^'

Also, HarryPotterRules1, I believe a big part of why I often find myself with much opposition during arguments, as I am sure Seth would agree, is because I have a unfortunate tedency to get caught up in the heat of the moment, so to speak. When I try to explain something based on my perception of information, to me it always makes sense, but when I tell others about it - it won't necessarily make sense to them, and sometimes it will even seem completely wrong. And when I believe myself right, I get so focused on that that I sometimes fail to cover all my bases for why I think that's the case. Take the Aura/Dumbledore discussion, for example. Now, because I later referred to an actually existing canon example on how to use aura to describe as "traces left by magic", people had more truck with it. I could back it up with more than just "contextual evidence", which is, while still valid, open for intepretation that differs from my own. Ninclow (talk) 02:53, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Formal warning recquired?
Hi, I don't want the them blocked or anything, but could you perhaps leave a message on HarryPotterRules1's talk page and please tell him to stop threatening to silence people he don't like and/or don't share their opinion? When we disagreed about Griphook, he threatened to contact you or the Wiki Central and have me "silenced". When I went a bit drama queen on him and asked who he thoguht he was and what gave him the right to "silence" anyone, he came with a hasty, half-baked and less than sincere apology, which I did accept, but then I noticed that he have threatened more people than me with having them "silenced", and it just - rubbs me the wrong way, you know. So could you ask him to stop - like sternly? Ninclow (talk) 21:23, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Naming problem
Hi, Seth! It should be taken a decision. On Talk: Edessa Skandenberg (new name after moving) was at the end of the page a question about the surname. There was never an answer and now the talk page and the page are moved from Edessa "Sakndenberg" to Edessa Skandenberg. I wanted to tell you because that's very irritating the ever and ever changing of the surname. <font style="background:#F75D59;color:gold;"> Harry granger <font style="background:yellow;color:black;">  Talk  <font style="background:yellow;color:;"> <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> contribs <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> 18:09, October 28, 2017 (UTC)

Do we add?
Do we add these images from Pottermore - https://www.pottermore.com/features/a-guide-to-lord-voldemorts-death-eaters - into the Death Eater articles they coincide with? Some of the images, Regulus's for example, is better than the image we actually have. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 23:55, October 31, 2017 (UTC)

In all honesty, PM should come first in terms of images as it's one of the highest forms of canon, as written by J.K. Rowling. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 03:59, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't she have to approve it - it's her website - so surely that makes it highest canon? HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 04:02, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I could you look into this matter? The Complaint 2 section specifically, Cubs Fan hasn't gotten back to me. Zane T 69 (talk) 17:18, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

Hello seth

Which parts of pottermore are considered tier one canon?

Hello seth

Which parts of pottermore are considered tier one canon?

Freddy1428 (talk) 14:42, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

Hafang Longbottom
Please see his talk page. His name might be wrong...--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 15:52, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

Walburga Black
Please see the page and deal with it as necessary? The other person is refusing to accept canon information. Can you deal with them, please? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 16:41, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

Question about the M.I.D.
Okay, so we see that the Major Investigation Department is called upon to put an end to the "very major incidents", in this case, they are very proactively chasing this mystery that runs amok in New York that later turns out to be an Obscurus. Now, Graves is confirmed in an interview by Colin Farrell to be charged with ensure the safety of the wizarding community of America and uphold the segregation between the No-Majs and wizardkind. I know you are oppoed to "presumptions", but no one can deny that more or less everything Rowling comes up with mirrors the real world in some way, Dementors and Lethifolds notwithstanding.

Now, I know you and others often would say "we cannot presume anything", but the two factors got me thinking. As you might very well know, the United States Department of Homeland Security was established to coordinate future "homeland security" efforts in response to the September 11 attacks, as such, I believe it stands to reason that the Department of Magical Security, being its magical counterpart, was created under similar circumstances. Now, you may say that we "have no evidence of that", and while that is thechnically true, one piece of evidence from Rowling serves as my building block of sorts. We hear of the  the Ministry of Magic was established because of how the structure of the Wizard's Council were insufficent for  the onerous job of policing a fractious and frightened community adjusting to the imposition of the International Statute of Secrecy. Well, that means that when we read on Pottermore how it was originally modelled after the Wizard's Council, even if American wizards of the day could probably adjust to the ongoing situation, MACUSA is bound to fell short in some respects, having claimed jurisdiction of a country  more than forty times bigger than that in which the original Wizard's Council proved to be ineffective. And what circumstances would I be talking about, you might ask? Two words that is actually a name: Dorcus Twelvetrees.

Now, remember how MACUSA's first President of MACUSA was Josiah Jackson, a warlike wizard who was voted into post by his fellow representatives because he was considered tough enough to deal with the difficulties of the post-Salem Witch Trials era. What was his primary aim? Why, it was to rid the continent of Scourers. Their second great law enforcement challenge was the number of wizarding criminals who had fled to America from Europe and beyond, precisely because of the lack of organised law enforcement such as existed in their own countries. What can we take out of this? That MACUSA's first head of state was notoriously militant, and as all initial leaders, must have left quite a mark and influenced how MACUSA was run for quite some time. I daresay definitively considering the witch-hunts and the Scourers, which is the point of my - uh, point, for a lack of better word.

Managing all of their affairs in the strictest conformity with the International Confederation of Wizard's Statute of Secrecy, which have been regarded almost universally regarded by the wizarding community of America as one of their most sacred laws from the moment it was implemented,   does it not seem reasonable to assume that for the longest time,  the task of concealing wizardkind would almost naturally have fallen to members of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement? That they were expected to balance the investigation and pursuit of wanted criminals and the overriding need to cover their tracks from the No-Majs? And,  does it not seem reasonable to assume that  MACUSA, being an overall rather strict and militant government with certain structural shortcomings, would be profoundly affected by the introduction of Rappaport's Law? This is only a theory, the basis for which is how it mirrors almost perfectly how Bush  saw the need for an initative to address the urgent need  to develop and coordinate the implementation of the US government's  efforts to detect, prepare for, prevent, protect against, respond to, and recover from terrorist attacks within the United States, that the whole Twelvetree incident and the subsequent humiliating censure by the ICW opened the eyes of President Rappaport for the necessity of addressing the need for a more structured and organised manner to go about all the ways in which they were to protect and conceal the wizarding community? Don't it seem likely that the Department of Magical Security was founded as a direct result of the Twelvetree incident and the imposition of Rappaort's Law, to prevent anything similar to the former from ever happening again and to ensure everyone followed the latter to the letter?

And assuming the MLE was indeed enforcing the secrecy thus far, my theory of its founding makes even more sense, since not everyone capable of modifying an individual's recollection of an incident flawlessly would necessarily possess the courage to bring lawbreakers to justice and the other way around. However, as maintaining secrecy were seen as a vital part of "maintaining law and order", the militantly-inclined MACUSA would concivably have narrow-mindedly deemed those not capable of doing both tasks to be unqualified for either, meaning that the struggle to balance out the executive and the legislative aspects of their duties would almost necessarily have been a troublesome and most long-winded problem. Until the establishment of  the Department of Magical Security, effectively segregating the task of upholding the magical laws and hide the magical community. This would also explain the difference between the Major Investigation Department and the Department of Aurors. The latter, with its many US Auror Divisions, falls under the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, basically being somewhat akin to a more highly trained MLE Patrol in Britain, with the Major Investigation Department falls under the purview of the Department of Magical Security, being called upon when the "magical security" of the wizarding community of America are being compromised. Employing Aurors too, it would appear that the Major Investigation Department acts under the jurisdiction of the Department of Magical Security and with the authority of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, meaning that the MID can claim "jurisdiction" and use any means necessary to eleminate whatever threatens to expoe wizardkind. Somehow, I suspect "cursing-to-kill" is not something an MLE Auror can do on a whim, but I would not be surprised if a MS Auror of the MID had clearance to do so if they deemed it necessary. You know, one is "upholding the law", but when things turn very grim, it becomes a matter of "magical security".

How much of this sound - like - "correct" to you? Figured some of it could go on "Behind the scenes" section on Major Investigation Department/Department of Magical Security? Ninclow (talk) 06:00, November 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * What do you mean "be the bad guy"? All that happened here now was that I had a thought, figured it might be too much of a conjecture, even for the BTS section and therefore came to you to make sure I didn't add something that didn't belong, and you told me that it didn't belong. You weren't being a bad guy, you just answered my question. It's not like I'd get upset at you telling me no. :P :-) Ninclow (talk) 15:56, November 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Was it at the very least an interesting/entertaining theory? ^^'Ninclow (talk) 16:49, November 11, 2017 (UTC)

Talk template
It looks like you're making some responses and down to less than 100 articles at this point, but if you want, the bot can simply remove the Talk template from articles automatically. If not this time, keep it in mind for future bulk clean-up. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:25, November 11, 2017 (UTC)

Clearification
Okay, I blame this possible misunderstanding on my part because I'm generally socially akweard and prone to misread situations on occassions, but.. I feel like I owe you an aopology of some sort? I mean, I posted a "yes/no" question on your talk page, and you replied with "not to be the bad guy", and now I kind of just sit here with this bad feeling of "Oh my God, what kind of impression have I left on these people?" And with the recent ban of HarryPotterRules1, I kind of feel obliged to ask myself wether I too is felt to be somewhat of a burden to the HP wiki community. I really appreciated how you stood up for me against the aforementioned member recently, but I just want to ask and to check with you if there is anything at all I should be doing differently? Ninclow (talk) 21:54, November 11, 2017 (UTC)

That's a relief! Thanks, mate. :-D Ninclow (talk) 20:57, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

Harry Potter Netflix Show
Hello Seth! Recently a user posted a article that said that the Stranger Things cast would play in a newly announced show (https://www.hypable.com/stranger-things-harry-potter-netflix-series) on Netflix, I wondered if you knew more about this? To me it looked very fake. In addition, as far as I know, Netflix hasn't announced any new series. Cheers, CosmicChronos | Sweden, the land of Meatballs 12:54, November 19, 2017 (UTC)

Horcruxes and dueling
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:400;">Hi Seth I've been reading through the fan base and in various Voldemort vs debates a common held belief is that a wizard with horcruxes has an advantage in duels because they can't die, though reading through the books doesn't really show any evidence to support this.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:400;">The description of horcruxes in the books don't suggest that a horcruxes user becomes spell-proof (voldemort's first attempt to kill Harry backfiring and needing to cast a shield to block dumbledore's spell in book 5) and dumbledore's statement in book 6 (his brain and magical ability remain intact)  imply that Voldemort without his horcruxes would not be any less powerful or intelligent.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:400;">The only real benefit the horcrux user should gain is that if someone were to strike a killing blow their soul would remain anchored to the living world, but they would be reduced to a disembodied spirit incapable of using most magic (Voldemort being only capable of possession, legilimency and parseltongue) and incapable of holding a wand or fighting back, which would pretty much be defeat anyway.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:400;">Going through this do you think it is an accurate assumption and if so do you think it be ok to put it in the behind the scenes section on the horcrux page?

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:400;">Freddy1428 (talk) 09:21, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

Page moving
Hi, Seth! The page Sturgis Podmore was moved to "Dyrumis Podmore" by this user. Can this be correct? <font style="background:#F75D59;color:gold;"> Harry granger <font style="background:yellow;color:black;">  Talk  <font style="background:yellow;color:;"> <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> contribs <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> 23:53, November 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * It's been dealt with. <font style="background:#F75D59;color:gold;"> Harry granger <font style="background:yellow;color:black;">  Talk  <font style="background:yellow;color:;"> <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> contribs <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> 00:16, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

CSS and Infoboxes
What would I have to add to a wiki's CSS coding to get this wiki's (and that of other wikis, like Wookieepedia) infobox design? SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 05:36, December 4, 2017 (UTC)

Harry Potter: The Wand Collection content
I recently got the Harry Potter: The Wand Collection book and it notes certain wands and which Death Eater owned them. This information is considered canon because it comes from a higher Tier Three source correct?--Professor Ambrius (talk) 02:53, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

RE Hey
Thanks! I'm happy to have a broom AND mop now. ;) Let me know if there are tasks that need any help or attention. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk)

newt and hagrid
hello. <span style="font-family:inherit;font-size:16px;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(33,33,33);">in your opinion are they met? they are alike because newt loves animals even if we do not know if he is attracted as hagrid by all that is dangerous Rise akainu (talk) 19:28, December 27, 2017 (UTC)

Question about Kingsley
It is never mentioned in the books, but the actor wears a wedding ring while posing in costume/in character. Could be, of course, that he didn't want to take it off, even while playing a character. As a matter of principle, but would it be okay if I added in the BTS that Kignsley might be married/engaged? Ninclow (talk) 02:26, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

New HP Discussion MOD
Greetings Seth!

Due a forecast of increased wikia activity by Global Discussions Moderator http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Reverb_Frost, we have decided to bring a new highly active member into the Harry Potter MOD team. We have chosen http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/User:Sapphire1912 as we believe she is the best choice. She is very helpful and active, with great member relationship skills. It would mean alot if you could promote her when you can. Thank you for your time!

SiriuslyPotty (talk) SiriuslyPotty 04:16, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Personal attack
Hi someone was mean to me what should I do Lbluck8 (talk) 21:03, January 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * It would help us to answer if you told us exactly what you're referring to. If you mean the fact that your article Gryffindor is my dream house got nominated for deletion, that wasn't an attack on you personally; that article got nominated because it's a blog post in the main article space, which is not allowed on this wiki. Also, your blog Please be nice will probably be deleted as it's off-topic for this wiki. And I am baffled by the picture you uploaded; what's the subject supposed to be? — evilquoll (talk) 23:02, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Unsupported Flight vs. Apparition
Even though it was never actually stated to be Unsupported flight, could it be? Confirmed or not, they're clearly flying and appears entirely different from Apparition. Since it was never actually stated to be Apparition, can those images be removed from the Images of Apparition category page? It can't exactly be called Apparition if it was never called it. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 17:42, January 29, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Why did you put them back? The page was fine the way I left it. The family image isn't necessary and the infobox image needed a much more recent/updated and better image of Walburga, showing everyone what she really looked like. The images on the family tree/tapestry don't show what they really looked like most of the time. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 03:05, January 30, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Walburga and Orion Black Images
Isn't it more important to update the Walburga Black and Orion Black infobox images rather than have a place for the family portrait? Don't get me wrong, finding a place for it is important but the current ones now are old and the updated ones should be in the infobox instead. Couldn't the family portrait image be put under the Relationships, Black family, section and the new image without having problems that both images are on the same page at the same time, or on the House of Black page? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 05:32, January 31, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Question
Since the wizards category is extremely long, could it be split to wizards and witches categories or is it not worth the hassle? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 17:31, January 31, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard If I wanted to create categories on creatures from a specific region, how would I name them? For example, American creatures or Creatures from America/United States of America? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 04:08, February 2, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Infobox pictures
Why is it so important for you to have those particular images in the infoboxes rather than those I put there? Ninclow (talk) 23:22, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, that was a poor choice of words. But... I changed the family image for another family image. It might be from the lego games, but - it's still the whole family, and it even included Kreacher. I figured that way, the infobox of Orion and Walburga became less of an eyesore, and we didn't have that same family image on four different pages. (Sirius and Regulus has also the same image in theirs). This way, I figured Orion and Walburga had one family image (and were being depicted from a more recent picture that better depicted them, and Sirius and Regulus could have another. Ninclow (talk) 00:18, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

But by your own admission, you removed it to avoid using it repeatedly, won't it be kind of counterintuitive/illogical to have it in four places rather than two? Wouldn't variety supersede overuse? I mean, it isn't as if the lego image isn't canon at all. Ninclow (talk) 00:31, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, in that case, I'll simply have to not visit those two pages, becuase - I don't know what it is, if it is the coloring, how it seems to melt together into one greenish mess, stinging your eyes, but whenever I visit those pages now, it feels like I'm about to get another epileptic seizure... Oh well, please notify me if you should ever find some other image in their place that may be used. ^^' Ninclow (talk) 01:15, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Dump request
Hey there,

I wanted to be able to get a wiki dump for various reasons but unfortunately I can't seem to be able to find a recent one (the last one was from April 2017). Could you please go to Special:Statistics and click on the send request button next to the request an update section? Thank you very much --Thetrentus (talk) 11:34, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Fantastic Beasts game 'case files'
I feel we have very little information about the game itself, the characters presented and so on. Do you know anyone on the wikia who have both the game and the patience to see it through to the end who could make a page for each case or simply make a summary on the game's main page? Ninclow (talk) 14:10, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, okay, I didn't notice that. Good thinking, then. ^^' Ninclow (talk) 21:07, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I listed up all surenames available in the game on the "wizarding families" category talk page, if that can be of any help at all? Ninclow (talk) 21:09, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Another question:
I found this on the HP Lexicon: "Firstly and most importantly, we enclose your official Ministry of Magic Approved Certificate of Membership, which proclaims that you are part of the wizarding community and which should be jealously guarded from Muggles. Your Hogwarts notepad and pencil, also enclosed, come from Mr Filch's rarely unlocked store cupboard." -- excerpt from the welcome letter, Harry Potter Fan Club (from private source).

I just wanted to ask if it is far-fetched to include the 'official Ministry of Magic Approved Certificate of Membership' on the wikia? If yes, and all members of the wizarding community of Great Britain (who is of age, that is) is issued one, it could be tied in to the Administrative Registration Department, perhaps? Maybe as its own page or as a BTS mention? Ninclow (talk) 15:30, February 7, 2018 (UTC)

Videos
I'm sorry about the mess I created with the videos, at the time copyright violations didn't occur to me. I understand now and I won't be uploading any more videos, without proper licensing. Sorry, again. Misskatniss1546 (talk) 23:43, February 14, 2018 (UTC)Misskatniss1546

American wizarding hero
How exactly is American wizarding hero a figure of speech? When talking about Beauvais wand owners, it says American wizarding hero; even if it could mean more than one it still is at least one American wizarding hero. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 19:42, February 16, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard
 * It did say American wizarding hero, regardless of whether it's not mentioning a specific character and there could be more than one. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 04:51, February 17, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Is this... canon?
Thoughts? Ninclow (talk) 01:48, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, just realized the full context. My mistake. ^^' Ninclow (talk) 02:11, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Grindelwald's bolt page
Just to let you know, the Grindelwald's bolt pages needs a better name like Grindelwald's Lightning Bolt Spell/curse or something. Other users might not know what Grindelwald's bolt is based on the name. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 22:40, February 22, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Google indexing
I just noticed something when I googled "Harry potter", someone vandalized the description to the harry potter wiki, do you think you can fix the description under the link? Truthismyshield (talk) 20:07, February 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * Is there someone on Staff that we can contact? I don't think we have enough access to perform a Fetch as Google to force a reindexing of the page content. --Ironyak1 (talk) 20:53, February 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * I tried clearing my cache/history in chrome and doing a new search in Firefox, but still getting the old info. Google - Harry Potter - result just below the images. What's crazy is that revision was only in place for 6 minutes yet somehow Google indexed it then. My only thought is that someone on Wikia staff has this site managed and can Fetch as Google which should reindex the page. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:52, February 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * Interesting - probably a regional thing then and US specific. Hopefully the SEO experts at wikia can sort it out or Google US re-indexes soon. Thanks for contacting the powers-that-be (don't really know much of the wider wikia infrastructure :) --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:20, February 23, 2018 (UTC)

New Mod
Hello Seth! We've decided that it would be good to have a new mod due to inactivity from some of our others mods. We have chosen a User called User:1337star, if you could grant them the permissions it would be great! Cheers, CosmicChronos | Sweden, the land of Meatballs 09:19, February 24, 2018 (UTC)

Affiliate with Harry Potter Wikia
Hi Seth,

I was trying to reach Cavalier One regarding the affiliate section of the Harry Potter Wikia, but I heard from @Harry Granger that he is not very active any longer. Harry Granger also suggested me to contact you regarding getting featured in the affiliate section of the HP Wikia.

I already added your banner to my front page over at HarryPotterBible.com (See screenshot). Would you mind linking back to me from the affiliate section? :)

Wishing you a great day.

Best regards

Erik Eriikn (talk) 16:15, February 24, 2018 (UTC)



Playing Hogwarts Mysteries:
Hi, I found a modified APK file of the updated version of Hogwarts Mysteries in the comment section on one of a youtuber who made a gameplay called "Go Shiney Hunter". The link he provided didn't work outside the US, but this one does. I just wondered because, unless you dislike spoilers, if you would like me to link it to you? I'm like - one minute in and already seeing some retcon. In this updated version, for example, you meet Rowan before buying your wand, and he offered assistance to Jacob's sibling when he/she is uncertain where to find school supplies by pointing them in the right direction. And with new quests, dueling and Transfiguration added to the mix, there's probably more to come. I figured if we both played, we could work together on updating Jacob's page. Sort of an nice sidetrack from all those differing opinions of ours? :-) Ninclow (talk) 01:51, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Shouldn't be a problem, my friend. In the updated version, you have your energy bar, and when that's empty, you usually have to wait for it to fill up, or you can buy "gemstones" for real life money to fill up quicker. However, at the beginning of this version, I think you start with about a 100 gemstones. I did, at least, although I had to make my character all over again. That, and during the early stages of the game, your energy bar refills itself in seconds. So you'll at least get a bit forward in the story within a couple of hours due to the boost the gamemakers gives us through the gems. The link to the APK file is here, and may I suggest that you download NoxPlayer? That's the emulator that worked the best for me. If you don't have it, you can download it here, which will allow you to play the game on your computer. :-D

Ninclow (talk) 02:59, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Hello! Do you remember the gameplays on youtube when Snape and Filch discusses the Cursed Vaults? There's been a slight change in dialouge for the new version: In the first beta, Filch only asked if it was true that they were filled with treasure. Now, on the other hand, he asks: "Is it true that is is filled with gold, and powerful prophecies and artefacts from before Hogwarts existed?" Just thought it was worth noting. Might be some gaps in the Propheciy Records at the Ministry? :P Ninclow (talk) 01:52, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Am I missing someth- I just suck at math!
If the character's fist year in Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mysteries takes place in 1984, it would mean that he/she was born around 1973, but there is something that don't seem quite right to me here. This would mean, unless we are to assume Merula Snyde lied about the rumors of Jacob working for Voldemort, that Jacob, at the latest, would have to have been born ca 1964, because he must have been at least sixteen or seventeen years old in at the time of his expulsion and subsequent running away from home for people to even consider the possibility that Jacob mgiht have joined Voldemort. On top of that, if he was born in 1964, he would have been 14 when his younger sibling was born, meaning around the time of his expulsion at 16 or 17, his sibling would be only two or three years old, and by the time he/she began attending school, Jacob's expulsion would be such old news that it is completely absurd for Jacob's sibling to get a hard time over it. Not to mention strange that people would still be talking about it, about eight, nine years after the fact. I mgiht have committed a logical fallacy somewhere here but - what do you think? Ninclow (talk) 22:20, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday
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 * No problem. I'm also pleased about belated congratulations. :-) <font style="background:#F75D59;color:gold;"> Harry granger <font style="background:yellow;color:black;">  Talk  <font style="background:yellow;color:;"> <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> contribs <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> 00:28, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Prime Dumbledore?
Hi Seth

I wonder if it would be alright to remove references of prime Dumbledore from the Dumbledore Grindelwald wiki pages.

Not to cause any arguments it's just I think that to say Dumbledore's power in the fantastic beasts films is greater than in the Harry potter series at this point  is really just speculation since we Don't know how accomplished he was at this time (I.e. Power, Knowledge of spells and dueling) plus the fact that he doesn't have the elder wand yet.

I know people would say that he fought against Grindelwald in the greatest duel of all time but right now no one truly knows what happened in that fight i.e if there really was a proper duel or if the unkown eye-witnesses account of what happened is true.

So would it be ok to remove any references to prime dumbledore atleast until the young dumbledore actually displays abilities beyond his older self hope to hear from you to see what you think.

Also Happy Birthday

Freddy1428 (talk) 20:21, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Page creation
I was thinking about creating a page about magical law. It would include information like: law structure, different types of court, trails, law enforcement, existing laws, literature about law, law practioners, and addiction info. I noticed that there wasn’t really a page regarding magical law in general and wondered if creating one would be a good idea.--Misskatniss1546 (talk) 18:27, March 7, 2018 (UTC)Misskatniss1546

Did I miss something?
SPOILER ALERT! If you look at this clip:

When Jacob's sibling enter the Cursed Vault, they find a notebook full of obscure scribbles and a broken wand that almost certainly belonged to Jacob himself. But - then they recieve an owl from McGonagall, who informs them she is aware that they entered the Cursed Vault and order them to meet her in the West Tower. Once there, she informs the player it was not the first time the ice appeared at Hogwarts, and not the first time it suddenly disappeared. "Like last time", it would appear that the cursed ice appeared when someone "meddled" with the vault and disappeared when the door leading into it was opened. "I am sure you can guess who opened the door last time"... Jacob, obviously.

But - then what the heck was he expelled for? Is this just plot armor, or what on Eath's going on. here? The player's character is awarded freakin' fifty points for "saving Hogwarts" by opening the door and making the ice disappear. If that is what Jacob did, then why wasn't he awarded for helping to save the school? Ninclow (talk) 03:25, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Well - Jacob's sibling just opened the door. Perhaps Jacob sibling meddled with the vault, brought the cursed ice upon the school, and before he got the chance to open the door, the cursed ice injured/trapped a bunch of students, making him indirectly responsible, or at least to blame, because he unleashed it? Ninclow (talk) 12:45, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion about how to treat contradictions in Hogwarts Mystery:
I added Ben Copper among "known users" of the Obliration Charm and the Reparifarge spell since, if you pick him, he is good covering his tracks. This means that if you choose him over Penny to go into the Cursed Vaults, Professor McGonagall will 'know' you were in the vaults but have no solid evidence for it and hence not dock points.

Rodolphus moved this to the BTS section because it was up to the player and should be treated/described as out-of-universe-ish. I disagree however. After thinking a little about it, I for one would say that the way I see it, at least - everything in the game is canon. Both the scenario with Ben being there and using the charms to cover their tracks, and the one with Penny being there and them being found out. Yes, at first glance, the two different scenarios contradict one another, but they both still happen within the game and by virtue of that is both equally canon. Perhaps, for the sake of consistently factual inconcistency, we should cover everything, and where one piece of information contradict another depending on a decision of the player, we can either add both if it is room for it, for example, when Jacob's sibling and Rowan discuss whom to bring into the room with the cursed ice, in the course of their conversation, depending on whom you pick, I am pretty sure Rowan present the pros and cons of your choice. We could have it as a headcanon of sorts that the pros and cons were discussed between the pair before a decision was made, and treat subsequent, player-determined events as sort of incomplete historical records in the sense that when Jacob's sibling, Rowan and Ben/Penny comes along and runs in after Merula once she pushes past them and gets trapped, for example, we could simply write, for example, that "although it is unconfirmed who Jacob's sibling and Rowan ultimately chose to accompnay them, though Jacob's sibling was known to be equally impressed with Ben's tremendous charmswork as he was with Penny's magnificent potion-making, both of which qualified them to be real assets for the task at hand. Though it is believed that his final choice was Ben, who (going into detail on the relevant player-determined gameplay), although yet others maintain that when everything was said and done, Penny went along with them into the room with cursed ice, and that (details on relevant player-determined gameplay).

Alternatively, or perhaps even in addition to this, we could also for the sake of clarifocatopn insert a reference repeated on certain sections reading "player-determined". That way, everything we can possibly see Penny say and do can be added to her page, and everything we can possibly see Ben say and do is added to his page. And, of course, everything that happens in the game can be added to the wikia and hold true as equally canon. Thoughts? Ninclow (talk) 05:44, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

What exactly is the point of putting dashes in a sentence where there doesn't need to be one like He - accompanied and - was sent? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 00:43, March 15, 2018 (UTC)IlvermornyWizard

Could you say that in English please? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 03:40, March 15, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

IlvermornyWizard: English is my second language, sorry if my grammar is't to your satisfaction, I'll try to improve it.

Seth: Wouldn't that be like - treating canon as out-of-universe? Ninclow (talk) 05:40, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Corvus Lestrange
I was wondering if you could help me move and edit the new Lestrange family member pages? Just found out recently there are five Lestranges on the Lestrange family tree on that wall instead of three, so I've been trying to rename a few of them so that it's right, but have been making a slight mess of things and I need your help to fix it without a mess. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 18:11, March 15, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard


 * FYI, I think we've started to get a handle on this, however, I think that all the Corvus Lestranges might need to be Corvus Lestrange (I), Corvus Lestrange (II), etc as the number is just our tracking mechanism, not their actual suffix. There may be 18 Corvus Lestranges before them for all we know. I'm also not 100% convinced they are all Corvus on the image, but at least there is a distinct page for each to handle the renaming if needed. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:41, March 15, 2018 (UTC)


 * If you're still around, got 5 mins to chat about this? --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:42, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

FB spoiler templates
Ironyak and me had a talk about something and we wanted to ask your opinion. How long should the FB1 spoiler templates be kept? The first film was released almost 1 1/2 years ago and the DVD has also been out for almost a year. Could we remove them soon, perhaps using the bot, or should it be kept until FB2 is released?--Rodolphus (talk) 12:52, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Ninclow
I just got in from a long day and I don't have the energy to wade through an eight-paragraph rant. I preemptively revoked Ninclow's talk page privileges because I anticipated precisely this response, given his history of tendentiousness and filling talk pages with long, multi-paragraph posts demanding answers to his every quibble. There was nothing constructive to be gained from leaving the lines of communication open in my judgment. Discussions with Ninclow have seldom proven constructive in the past. His conduct on this site has shown a marked disinclination to let matters rest, even when consensus, evidence, and policy do not support his preferred edits.

Two days ago, Ironyak1 advised Ninclow that "all this conjecturing of scenarios and arguing over them has become disruptive and non-productive," asking him to "please bring it to a close before I have to." Only a few hours later, he badgered/harrased her on her talk page. He seemingly did not feel inclined to heed that notice and adjust his conduct accordingly. Enough is enough.

&#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 04:53, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Tags
Hi Seth! I'm an admin for a wiki and just wanted to know how to add/create tags for users... It’s like customised User rights but I don’t know how to make it...

For example this user is 'in Azkaban'

Thanks, <font style="background:#F75D59;color:orange;"> TheSonofCharlusPotter <font style="background:red;color:blue;">  Talk  <font style="background:red;color:;"> <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> contribs <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> 07:31, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

List of names
So apparently is adding lists of Wizarding names, similar to the player names options in  (some recorded here), and there is some interest in adding this info to the wiki. Any thoughts on how best to approach this without replicating Category:Wizarding families or even worse all names from Category:Individuals? As were not going to have an article on each name, it we can't really use the category system. It seems like a "List of" article might work although the information is in-universe, which makes the info a poor fit for just adding to or. Can't quite see a great solution so wanted to see if you had any ideas. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 20:09, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Ok! Sorry for disturbing you... But thanks for the link!

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Creature infobox - Sentience
So I would like to remove Sentience from the Creature infobox as the term itself is vague (sentience = awareness? (plants & animals), self-awareness? (some animals), cognition? (humans, higher-life)) and is only used in the source texts when describing Fiendfyre, some wands, and the Sword of Gryffindor, but never for creatures. It doesn't seem to be a meaningful descriptor to track and with little consensus on meaning and no sources to verify any entries.

Let me know if you have any objections to removing it, otherwise I'll add it to my list of things to do later in the week. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:17, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Albus Dumbledore
Well, since Armando was known as a very capable Headmaster in his leadership skills, i think Dumbledore should too. And besides, i thought that Occlumency needed a lot of willpower. In addition to that, Dumbledore could overcome his selfish desires and feelings when properly motivated so i think he qualifies.

Image categories
Hey there Seth! We've briefly talked before, but I realized I never actually got a reply/go-ahead for this question: User_talk:Seth_Cooper/Archive21. Since it's been a while, I actually don't even remember already asking about them (it's mostly because I never got a response, so I thought the procrastinating me just never sent out the question.) Don't really care for my first question, but please mainly check for the 2nd batch of questions? One of the proposals has been used (Images of Golden Snitches instead of Images of the Golden Snitch,) but I still don't think there're ones for the rest. Just want to make sure it's okay to have those categories, as previously stated, I think they are prominent.

Newer image categories request for permission:
 * , self-explanatorily, Jack Bedford. http://www.jackbedford.co.uk Known artworks used on Pottermore:
 * 1) https://www.pottermore.com/features/room-of-requirement-infographic
 * 2) https://www.pottermore.com/features/wizarding-world-book-o-graphic
 * 3) https://www.pottermore.com/features/wonderful-wizarding-world-happiness-generator
 * , self-explanatorily, Owen Davey. http://www.owendavey.com Known artworks used on Pottermore:
 * 1) http://www.owendavey.com/Pottermore-Wizarding-Resistence
 * 2) http://www.owendavey.com/Pottermore-Dumbledore
 * , self-explanatorily, Rafael Dante. http://rafaeldante.com/hello/ Known artworks used on Pottermore:
 * 1) http://rafaeldante.com/hello/work/discover-your-patronus/
 * 2) http://rafaeldante.com/hello/work/explore-hogwarts/
 * , self-explanatorily, Nathalie Lees. http://cargocollective.com/nathalielees Known artworks used on Pottermore:
 * 1) Animated work by Ben Pearce. http://www.benpearce.com
 * 2) http://www.benpearce.com/#/pottermore/

Unsure who to credit, but apparently a bunch of the illustrations from the previous version of Pottermore are by Atomhawk Design Ltd.; http://atomhawk.com/case-study/pottermore I didn't see individual artist being credited.

That's it for now. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 02:37, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Why did you undo my edit to dragon milk?
Next time, please use the edit summary box to say why something is not good when undoing

Question
Hi! I hope you're fine!

My name is Leandro and I am from the Spanish wiki. We are updating our list of potions and I wanted to ask you, or someone, if your list of potions is updated. I ask this because there are some potions in the category Potions that there aren't in the list of potions.

Thanks for reading!

LeFences (Leandro) (talk) 19:13, April 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reply!


 * LeFences (Leandro) (talk) 20:09, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Potter's kids' page name consistency?
Hi there, Seth! After a brief inspection I'm honestly quite surprised that Lily L. Potter's page was decided to be named as such during mid 2016, yet James Potter II did not get the same treatment? Following the same thought process, shouldn't "James S. Potter" be more appropriate? I skimmed through the Talk page to find out apparently there was a time when the middle name wasn't 100% sure to be fact, but since the release of the Potter family tree on Pottermore, I feel like it's settled? Since Lily Luna's page name change seemed to have caused some heated discussion, I figured I shouldn't change James Sirius's page and just notify an Admin. Hope that makes sense. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 01:10, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Missing interlanguage links on the homepage
(Hopefully the section above won't be missed because of this new message.)

Self-explanatorily, there are some missing interlanguage links on the homepage: الصفحة_الرئيسية Pàgina_principal Forside עמוד_ראשי Pagrindinis_puslapis Wiki_Harry_Potter Pagina_principală Главна_страна Головна Main_Page Currently all the links on the home page didn't have a set page to them, so for me, someone who has the landing page set as "recent changes," clicking those links would land me to their recent changes, instead of their homepage. I have my personal setting set as such due to personal preference, but when going through interlanguage link from a homepage, I do expect to land on the counterpart homepage, not the recent changes page, which is why I provided the respective homepage above. That's just me though, pretty secondary, the point is that those links are missing. Please help adding them? Thanks! =D -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:29, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Muggle families and Wizard families
If a Muggle married a wizard/witch and had children, would they become a Wizard family or would they stay a Muggle family just with magical relatives? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 19:18, April 15, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Hogwarts mystery students
Do you plan to play Hogwarts Mystery? There is a house point top list, featuring more than 200 student names, complete with House and year. Will probably change when the player progesses. If you play HM, can you help me creating articles? Unless the names are random or player-generated of course.--Rodolphus (talk) 20:54, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

Hogwarts Mystery Leaderboard
Could those names on the Leaderboard be added to a list of all Ravenclaws, Slytherins, and etc.? Like if it said they were a Ravenclaw, would be on the Ravenclaw list and etc. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 05:04, May 2, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard


 * Those are NRC generated players...those are random players who don’t even exist...Please tell me if I’m wrong
 * <font style="background:aqua;color:red;"> TheSonofCharlusPotter <font style="background:red;color:yellow;">  Talk  <font style="background:red;color:;"> <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> Contribs <font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> 05:35, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Just so everyone (who's viewing this talk page) is on the same page (no pun intended,) perhaps considering reading through Talk:Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery. Although it was only the conclusion of 3 users who have played the game, we are pretty certain most of the character on the Leaderboard is generated differently for individual players. A source I saw also mentioning this is at http://www.newsweek.com/harry-potter-hogwarts-mystery-guide-wand-house-points-leaderboard-characters-904689 :
 * "Looking at the House Cup leaderboard, you might get the impression that you are competing against other players in a guild or multiplayer settings. Unfortunately, the houses you are competing against are only bots. Perhaps Jam City will integrate a guild and multiplayer model in later updates? Seems the groundwork is already there, so here's hoping."
 * Though I don't know if this source can be use as such. (I've yet found statements from the developer etc.)-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:32, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Andromeda Tonks image debate
Should the image on her page be of the older or younger version? Sure, the image of the younger version has a higher quality, but Andromeda is an old woman now, so it should show that. IlvermornyWizard (talk) 22:21, May 2, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Removing recent Walburga and Orion Black images
How come you reverted the edits and removed the recent, updated images? I mean, I know that you said that the image of Walburga Black is both on the family image and that one, but after the image of the younger Andromeda was added to the page in addition to the sisters image, I assumed that ended. Couldn't you just have both on the page even if they're from the same image? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 02:00, May 7, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard
 * So what if they're from the same image? Isn't it better to have a more updated and high quality image than the image was from an image already on the page? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 14:59, June 9, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Admin request
hi make me an admin please
 * No bureaucrat with the slightest sense ever made someone an admin simply because they asked for the post, especially if this is the only type of edit they have ever made on the wiki. — evilquoll (talk) 08:18, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Questions to J. K. Rowling
Hi Seth,

I'm admin in the german Harry Potter lexicon. Currently we're planning to send J. K. Rowling some questions no-one could answer in our discussions yet. So we want to send these questions to J. K. Rowling via a link to the wiki via twitter. Because we have to translate them into english anyway, we thought, that you might be interested to host the questions (and maybe some your users have as well) in your wiki so both the german and the english wiki can benefit from a possible answer by her.

Are you interested in such a cooperation?

Best regards, Zuri, 07:57, May 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks man, I posted a similar text with the invitation to post questions below in The Wizengamot. Looking forward to many interesting questions! Cheers -- Agent Zuri Profile   Message Wall   Blog  00:58, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

I don't know if users visit the Wizengamot regulary. Would it be a good idea to put a link into the community corner/messages? Cheers --Agent Zuri Profile   Message Wall   Blog  02:25, May 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * I entered our german questions now. If you want, let me know what you think about them.

Wand
Can you have a look at the wand Pages history? And see what you think of a random admin reverting an edit. Cheseburgermac (talk) 13:45, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

Do ya think you’ll ever get to this many edits? :)

-Watermelon

1984 First Years sorting image question
Hi there, Seth! As you are the uploader of, I wanted to ask where you got this image? The source was simply, and I have to admit, at first I didn't really understand what it means, and went looking through all the HM's official social media and sites, but could not find that particular image. Then I saw Screenshot placed in Licensing; so does this mean you personally screenshotted this image?

I'm asking, because, I belatedly saw this image on an official Pottermore article. While, unfortunately, there's Minerva's speech bubble blocking the lower halves of the firsties; the perks of this image is that both the eyes of Barnaby Lee and Charles Weasley are open, which is not the case for file:1984 First Years.png. I personally actually didn't realize until much later that Barnaby and Charlie were in that image due that exact reason, but I understand I could be the very few people who failed to recognized them immediately.

I'm wondering if a version of the officially released image with the speech bubble cropped out can be considered? I originally thought it might look weird, but and  also don't show too much below the waist of the figures.

In short, why imo I think it's worth considering:
 * 1) Image is officially released on
 * 2) Image has all first years eyes open
 * 3) Image is of larger dimension; regardless of the speech bubble, the features of the characters are clearer

I'm asking because I do not know if the reasons are acceptable, and if it is, whether the variation of the scene should be uploaded as a separate image.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:23, June 15, 2018 (UTC)


 * Still waiting for a reply, btw lol -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 17:53, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Exact birth years but c. Hogwarts years?
If some characters, like Narcissa Malfoy and Phineas Nigellus Black, have exact birth years instead of circa or between, then why do they have circa for their Hogwarts years? Wouldn't they have gone to Hogwarts in those years since students start Hogwarts at age 11? IlvermornyWizard (talk) 02:47, July 2, 2018 (UTC) IlvermornyWizard

Gringotts Head Goblin (title)
Hi there Seth! Saw your edits on Gringotts Head Goblin and Bogrod; can you also take a look at Gringotts Head Goblin (title)? Especially diff=1143181&oldid=1143165; I feel like if an Admin steps in, the editor comment can probably be removed altogether.

Also wonder if the article title to be simplified as "Head Goblin" would be acceptable, after all, Head Curse-Breaker isn't titled "Gringotts Head Curse-Breaker," Chief Auror isn't titled "MACUSA Chief Auror" etc. I am unsure, because it does give clarity, but I don't know if the specification is necessary.

-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 17:48, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Knight; James Potter
Hello, Seth. I noticed that the knight page centres around suits of armour rather than actual knights, although there is a suit of armour page. Should they not be merged, or should the Knight (disambiguation) page not replace the current content of the knight page?

I would additionally bring up the fact that for the James Potter I and James Potter II pages, the numerals are misleading. Would it not make more sense for the numerals to be in parentheses, since James Potter (Harry's father) and James Sirius Potter do not share middle names? That's the standard rule for suffixes, and putting the numerals in parentheses would highlight that it isn't a factual suffix (such as Lucius Malfoy I and Sirius Black I are).

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Replying to 2 topics and more
Hi Seth! Hope I can still catch you online! Thanks for the responses!

For Head Goblin (title) though, I meant renaming to merely "Head Goblin", not "Head Goblin (title)" since so far there's no unnamed character (that I know of) called "Head Goblin", so there shouldn't be a reason to emphasize it's a title? Like Chief Auror isn't titled "Chief Auror (title)" etc.

For the HM 1st year image; wow that's some high quality gameplay lol. I found one and even viewing it in HD, I couldn't get the clear resolution as the current one. I'll leave it like that as it's not too big of a deal in retrospect.

If possible, can you take a look at a documentation of editing questions I posted via the HPW blog? Especially the latter two sections; those should be considerably easier to respond to, while the first section most likely requires more thought. Most of them are all posted first at Talk pages, but it feels like I'm leaving them to be discovered by chance and so far not having so much luck with. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:53, July 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry for breaking in mid-conversation, folks. Just wanted to point out the reason I made the "Gringotts Head Goblin (title)" page is, while in part because I disagree with Samm,'s conclusion about who was running Gringotts, also because Rakepick in the game said that she was assigned the Niffler by the Gringotts Head Goblin, not the Head Goblin. And I called it "title" because a page already had that name, just to throw that out there as well. Maester Martin (talk) 22:12, July 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi there Maester Martin, yes, I totally understand why initially the "(title)" is needed! No doubting for that decision whatsoever. Seth has provided an image within the article, addressing to "Head Goblin," films are in the higher tier canon than HM.


 * Seth, User:Maester Martin provided his argument on the edits about whether or not certain portrayal is canon etc., previously on my talk page, now relocated (under the consent seen below) to Talk:Head Goblin (title). I'm notifying you because I believe I saw you giving out two cents about the matter; I am apparently not eloquent enough to pitch the idea. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:29, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

And - we're back to me repeating for the third of fourth time that Warwick David had a random title slapped onto a nameless character on the end credits just to identify the character with it playing no part in the movie at all. Aren't we? So we have HM - where "Gringotts Head Goblin" is part of a canon information. (Third-tier, but still canon), and then the movie, where "Head Goblin" is a mere out of universe identification that's never addressed in any shape or form within the story itself. Sorry, but unless Seth or someone esle decides to call it "Head Goblin", I'll continue doing my best being as thorough as I possibly can to ensure maximal accuracy. Sorry if I come across as difficult. PS: I have no objection to relocating/moving my response to the talk page. Maester Martin (talk) 23:27, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Your edit on Bogrod
I know that Bogrod, as you said, were in a position of seniority over this younger goblin, but he could also dismiss the other goblin who protested without any opposition whatsoever. By virtue of this, there is nothing, to the best of my knowledge, that is, in the books that actually contradict or otherwise invalidate the script's inclusion of Bogrod being responsible for running the bank. Would he go against the instructions if he was not under the Imperius Curse, though? Almost certainly not. But that doesn't mean he wasn't running the bank, that merely implies that the situation put pressure on him. The Voldemort-controlled Ministry and its relation to Gringotts could very well be comparable to someone holding a gun to your head and threatening to pull the trigger if you don't do exactly as the assailant tell you. Maester Martin (talk) 02:41, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * The novel implies, however, that even though Bogrod enjoys some seniority (being assisted by a younger goblin on command), he does not run the bank: another goblin reminds him that they are to follow higher instructions regarding Bellatrix Lestrange.

Vandalism
Hey Seth! Consider removing anon editing for a while, we have a rogue user spamming the wiki with inappropriate content, check the Block list for more information about the user we are dealing with. We have requested to range block the user, but so far have gotten no response. Cheers, CosmicChronos      Talk to me       Contribs    13:05, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

Could the wikia maybe benefit from having its own "Magical Commitee of Anti-Hex Operations", as in - users with like admin/mod status whose sole duty is to block/ban vandals and spammers when it happens? Like - if any one member of this group uses their admin powers for any other purpose, they run the risk of losing it, for example? Maester Martin (talk) 13:10, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

Trivia from HM
In this video, Kettleburn says that many species was at the brink of extinction when Newt Scamander came along, but I am not quite sure where to put it. Maester Martin (talk) 21:08, July 7, 2018 (UTC)