User talk:Seth Cooper/Archive21

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re: links
No worries! Where possible, I'll try to not remove too many red links (and if I accidentally remove a red link that should be kept, feel free to revert). Most of the red links I fix will likely be on user talkpages or archives (mostly those old article comment pages) or obvious pages which aren't going to be an article on the wiki.

Regarding archivetool: that's understandable. I'll try to manually archive talkpages, but the convenience of the tool makes it easier. But I understand if it's not something you'd want to use! :)

(PS: Can you delete this? The sysop who created it did so on incorrect advice provided by another member who didn't understand how Wikia JS Imports work. I would tag it, but the page is locked). --Sajuuk 20:18, February 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * While going through some red links, I realise I may have removed some red links that should have been left. If you check through my contributions, you'll find a few with a summary that asks for the edit to be reverted if the red link should be kept. Feel free to check if they should be kept, though a few of them were pages that I very much doubted would exist. --Sajuuk 16:23, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

HarryPotterRules1
I just thought I'd let you know that this editor has been leaving unconstructive messages on my talk page, and has attempted to edit war with me on my own talk page when I removed the unconstructive messages.

The messages contained personal attacks, and arguments over the user's edits to the Dolores Umbridge. They are clearly refusing to assume good faith, keep a level head, or otherwise refusing to let the incident go.

Their behaviour shows that they are annoyed that their edits to the Dolores Umbridge page were removed. I have also noticed that they've been previously warned against engaging in personal attacks, and leaving unhelpful messages on user talk pages. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 23:34, February 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * As I said, you're words were hypocritical. You tell me to speak with people before edit warring... yet the edit war only goddamn began because you did not talk with me before undoing the edit. If you'd done that, then we would not be in this situation. Get yourself in check and rather than criticize me, accept that you were responsible for the whole situation!--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 23:49, February 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * Like I said, your edits were undone because they were not convenient to be kept, and they didn't have a valid enough source of evidence to back them up. It was pointless to talk to you before undoing the edit, because I had valid reasons to undo it, and it's not like it's your decision what must stay and what must go on the wiki. Also I refuse to get myself in check because I kept a level head. I was not responsible for the situation. You were the one who made the questionable edit in the first place, and all the witnesses who publicly got involved in expressing their opinions on the situation disagreed that your edits were relevant. I can hardly see why that would make my words hypocritical, and if they do, I had valid reasons. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 23:55, February 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * The original undo of the edit, should, as per your own words have been discussed with me to see if you did agree. I could have been persuaded to accept the undo of my edit. As you didn't, edit war began. You remind me of someone I ultimately defeated on the Downton Abbey wiki. Don't make me do the same here, because I will. I will fight to the bitter end to get you to admit that you were the reason the edit war began. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:43, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * I happen to be a highly trusted good faith user on several wikis. You will not be able to get me to admit to something that I wasn't at fault for. And you will not be able to best me either. I come in good faith, constructive edits, and if I find any edits that I disagree with, I do exactly what many other good faith users would have done. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:46, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * You are at fault; if you'd obeyed your own words and asked me to explain my reasoning before undoing the edit, we wouldn't have this problem. Thus, everything that has occurred is your fault. TBH, I don't care about your reputation -- once you've admitted you were wrong (and mean it), then this can end. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:53, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Threatening other users to admit that they are wrong is a clear demonstration of bad faith, and a clear demonstration of someone who is unable to keep a level head. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:55, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * I had kept a level head; a level head has not sorted this situation, has it? You refuse, when you were wrong, to admit it. Thus, as a level head has not worked, there's no other situation left. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:58, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Every other user that has spoken so far has declared that they were not supportive of keeping the information you added in place. And I had no business in asking you to explain your reasoning before undoing your edit, because you were the one who made the edit that no one else thought was necessary. Since I had no part in this before I undid your edit, I had no reason to ask you to explain your reasoning, because this wiki isn't all about you. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:03, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER IF THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT! I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE GODDAMN FUCKING EDIT WAS FUCKING UNDONE! EDITS ARE UNDONE ALL THE TIME! THE POINT THAT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT YOUR OWN GODDAMN FUCKING WORDS WERE THAT YOU SHOULD SPEAK WITH THE PERSON BEFORE UNDOING THE EDITS! YOU DID NOT SPEAK WITH ME, WHICH IS WHAT CAUSED THIS FUCKING PROBLEM IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE! YOU WERE THE ONE THAT UNDID THE EDIT -- WITHOUT DISCUSSING WITH ME, AS PER YOUR OWN GODDAMN HYPOCRITICAL FUCKING WORDS -- AND CAUSED THIS FUCKING EDIT WAR! Now see what you've done? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:10, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Your addition didn't have a valid enough source of evidence to support it. And I haven't done anything except undoing your edit as a result. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:13, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * I provided three.
 * I loathe your existence.
 * End this here and now, please. I don't even care if you mean it. Just write "I was wrong and should have spoken with you first, as I wrote in my own words" and we'll end it. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:15, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Telling someone that you loathe their existence is not an action that can be tolerated. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:17, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Don't care anymore. I've given you the chance to end this. You refused to take it. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:24, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * It was already ended. You just kept harping on about it when the issue was resolved, that the information you added wasn't going to be kept. But you still kept on going. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:26, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think you'll find it wasn't about the edit; it was about your words that all undone edits should be spoken about to the original person before they're undone. You did not speak to me over it and just did it. THAT is what this whole discussion was about. THAT is why I asked for an apology -- I don't care that the edit was undone; all I care about is that you didn't obey your own words. Apologise for that and it's done. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:31, February 17, 2016 (UTC)