User talk:Starstuff/Archive 16

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http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/SparkleKiewert moved the book Philosopher's Stone page to Sorceror's Stone. 20:30, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

#KeepTheSecrets
Sorry to bother, but wanted to get your perspective on this Forum:Cursed_Child_Spoilers. Should leaks from the play be removed as part of a #KeepTheSecrets campaign, or under the issue of Verifiability, or left to stand for those who are interested in pursuing spoilers. I can see the edit wars brewing... Any stance on the matter? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:42, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Collapsible Section
All ready to go or does Binky's backstory need to be fleshed out? ;) I've seen several major spoilers already so trying to get ahead some of it. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 00:42, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * I wrote a bit more to test out how the spoilerbox handles images. Seems good to go. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 01:00, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd also prefer it if the spoilerbox was a template, but I don't know how to get it to work, so I guess we'll just have to copy the spoilerbox code into each article. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 01:02, June 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * See Seth's alternative in the forum. I think I could make your section, or Seth's tabber, into a template with a parameter if that is desired or we could just copy&paste - whatever works. --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:14, June 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * As you've noticed the collapsible section seems a bit fragile and fails to display when more complicated markup is used within in. I will try to see if there is anything that can be done with the template, but if we run into issues, it may best just copy the code to the page as this seems to fix the problem. --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:34, June 8, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Fantastic Beasts template
I think these are sorted out now with the proper direct links and formatting: =   =  Cheers--Ironyak1 (talk) 05:43, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Thanks again! &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 05:44, June 8, 2016 (UTC)

Can I borrow you
Can I borrow you in the chat? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:46, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

Handling spoiler content

 * Hey - if you're still around I'll be in chat for awhile if you want to talk about the new Cursed Child policy. Probably save me a tl;dr post here about my thoughts on the matter :) Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:06, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Source Links redux
As I'm working through a larger list of pages that have UK spelling issues, I am finding more opportunities for implementing some of my previous ideas for the source link templates to create consistent text for common links to the canonical sources (try saying that five times fast). I am adding both a Film Adaption option: = PS FA as well as automatically including a chapter name option based on the B (for book) and chapter number: = PS B (1) = PS B (1) If a chapter name isn't wanted, there are still these options: PS undefined = PS undefined = PS 1 (2)

Just wanted to bring these changes to your attention and see if you have other ideas along these lines or suggestions for improvements. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 20:51, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * This looks good so far. If find any issues down the road, I'll let you know, though. :) &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 02:01, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

Help with pages
Hey, Starstuff. Am off from work today, and I'm blocked on a couple of my favorite wikis, and was wondering, are there any particular pages here that come to mind that need to be worked on? -- ImperiexSeed, 5:55 AM, June 15th 2016

RE:HPLE question
They don't? I don't own Harry Potter Limited Edition, so I don't think there's anywhere else I could've gotten those pictures. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:30, June 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I can't seem to find the forum to go and check. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:39, June 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it's here. But we removed the links to the owner's site and deleted page revisions containing the links, from what I remember. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 01:41, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

Quick Chat
Don't want to interrupt your progress but if you have a a couple minutes to chat I would appreciate it. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 12:10, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Why did you delete my article???

Why did you delete my artical? Their was nothing wrong with it. Do you know how long it took me to make that? How would you like it if I deleated one eof your articles? Loads of people post articles that aren't 100% to do with the Harry Potter fandom. Why is my article so different that you felt the need to delete it?

MissDramatic014 (talk) 21:35, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ilvermorny infobox
I've created an infobox for Ilvermornians -- I'm not too happy with the colour scheme, though (even though it conforms with the canonical colours of cranberry-and-blue). Feel free to tweak them as you see fit. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 02:52, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

Bot request
Hi there! I've put in a bot flag request so I can apply the Pottermore links, UK spelling, and short link fixes I've been developing in an automated fashion. If you could take a moment and provide some feedback, it would be appreciated! Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:10, July 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey! Sorry I've been MIA for a few weeks. My family has been dealing with some difficult circumstances. They've been taking precedence and probably will continue to do so for some time, but I'll try to get in some editing time. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 10:44, August 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear this! Thanks for the support and my best wishes to you and your family. I hope things get better! --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:32, August 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind thoughts. :) Some other stressful circumstances occurred over the previous few weeks, but the worst is past, and hopefully my life can get back to normal. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 02:44, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Vote opened on Forum:Character Images and Infoboxes
Since you took part of the discussion over at Forum:Character Images and Infoboxes, I thought it would interest you to know that the vote on the matter has been opened. Cheers! --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:42, August 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. Sorry I didn't get to weigh in before the vote closed. The tabbed option is probably the most ideal solution, so I'm glad it was the ultimate outcome of the vote. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 03:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Chat Moderator
Hey,

so I recently added an application for Chat Moderator (I know, sounds weird, I explain it all in the application), and I was just wondering if you could go and have a look to see what you think about it,

Hope that you are well, and that you have a nice day,

Thanks,

ArrestoMomentum &#124;  talk  02:17, August 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey! Sorry I didn't see this message sooner! I've been away due to personal life circumstances. But I see you've been made a chat moderator. :) &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 03:36, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

HPLE
Hey - just thought you'd be interested to know that I got a hold of a used copy of. When you have some time and interest, let me know if there are pages missing from your scans or anything you want a better image of and I'll send it along. Hoping things improve soon for you and yours - all the best. --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:10, August 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for the kind wishes! It's really cool to hear you've gotten your hands on a copy of HPLE. I'll admit that I'm a teensy bit jealous! It would be awesome if we could could progressively go through Category:Images from Harry Potter Limited Edition and replace blurry and low-resolution images with higher-quality scans. Some of the text in the current photos is illegible, so better quality images might allow us to read it, and create or edit articles accordingly. I also watched a flip-through of the Graphic Arts book on YouTube that featured some pages that are absent from my scan collection. I'll watch it again and try to find omissions. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 03:48, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Some omissions that immediately stuck out from the flip-through video:
 * Page of what looks like book labels (next to Dumbledore's will and Magical Chrome label)
 * Page featuring product labels including Nomberg's Prime Turpenslime and Piquant Toothpaste
 * I also don't seem to have all of the record covers (for example, File:My Brazilian Love Music.png). &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 04:10, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * I coaxed my aging scanner (not scanning smoothly so images may have lines in them) to make a 600 dpi scan of the book labels and uploaded them here. In order to get under the 10 meg limit I saved them as a jpg, but I have a 33 meg png that I could also slice into sections. Let me know what you think works best and I can scan the Piquant Toothpaste page.
 * The record covers given in HLPE|G are: Equestrian Anthems, Volume 4, Love Celebration, Volume 2, Locked Out of the House Classics, My Brazilian Love Music, Tap Dancing Fury, Volume 1, Wakefields' Honky Classics which all seem to have images for the articles. The only new one may be an unseen back cover for Wizard Waltz from GOF, so I can add that.
 * Overall, there are many, many images, but it takes lots of time just to figure out out which of them might be new so if you have any pages you want scanned to help tackle the image identification, cropping, & uploading let me know - I'll never have time to process them all! --Ironyak1 (talk) 21:03, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding a Wizengamot forum topic
Good day sir/madam, I was advised by another user to post a message on your Talk page to notify you (and all other Administrators) of a request on the Wizengamot forum that I have made with regards to uploading more than the statutory three user images. Please feel free to take a look at the topic and comment on it when you are available. Thank you.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 ( talk  |  contributions ) 22:38, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Scamander family
Right-O, I'll see what I can do. ;) --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:59, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:24, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

My edits
Hey, I saw you undid my edits. Slughorn began teaching in the 1910s, around the same time Dumbledore did... so he did teach Callidora, Charis and the others who's infoboxes I changed. That is why I changed them. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 23:47, September 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * The choice to apply Slughorn's statement in HBP4 that "the whole Black family had been in my house" to students he would have taught was the result of this this discussion way back in 2009. Dumbledore had to be teaching at Hogwarts by 1938, when he recruited Tom Riddle, and it's stated in HBP5 that Slughorn started teaching around the same time as him, so we can conclude that Slughorn was also at Hogwarts by 1938. Thus, that year was chosen as the earliest date for students he could've taught, since there was no solid proof he was teaching before then. If new information has been released which clarifies the time when Dumbledore and Slughorn started at Hogwarts, which would consequently move back the threshold for Blacks whom Slughorn would have taught, the rationale should be explained in a footnote on the Cedrella and Callidora articles. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 00:12, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Slughorn was at Hogwarts in 1931 -- the new e-book explicitly states FIFTY YEARS of service - so Callidora, Cedrella and Charis (born in 1915, 1916 - 1919, and 1919 respectively) would have been at Hogwarts from 1926/27 - 1934/35, 1927/8/9/30 - 1935/36/37/38, 1930 - 1938. Slughorn, who began in 1931, would know their houses if he took house points off them or from their badges or from the specific houses they were in in Potions classes. Thus, we can take Slughorns word of every Black being in Slytherin as literal -- at least for the ones from 1931 Hogwarts attendance to 1981. THAT is why I changed them; Slughorn would know their house, you see?--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:20, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I haven't got a chance to have more than a cursory look at the new content from the ebooks yet. There still ought to be a footnote explaining all of this in the affected articles to avoid further confusion.  &#x2605;  S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 00:37, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

I put it in a reference, if that works. Callidora, Cedrella, Charis, Cassiopeia, Dorea, Walburga, Orion, Alphard, Cygnus III, Bellatrix, Andromeda, Narcissa and Regulus are all 100% confirmed Slytherin now. They only ones we don't know about are whether Slughorn considers people like Belvina's children as part of the "Black Family" in his speech. \I'll edit the infoboxes accordingly and add the reference in.--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:40, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Some troll page
I found a user that is trolling this wikia

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/I_HATE_YOU_IF_YOU_DELETE_THIS_IDIOT

I found it somewhere I did not create that page I just want to let you know

Character infoboxes - Wizengamot discussion
Hello. I've created a new forum post regarding migrating all character info boxes to one central template. I'd love to hear your opinion.

Thanks. -- Cörey (talk) 22:18, October 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi there, just bumping this conversation up. I'd really like your input on the Wizengamot discussion linked above. Thanks! -- Cörey (talk) 04:33, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

RE FB Mobile game
Yeah, the rationing and repetition is pretty rough. Thankfully there is a MOD apk version out there that gives unlimited currencies (other than stars) so it can be played without those interruptions ;) Some of the characters and stories for each level are actually decent once you get used to the repetitive 'hidden object' game play. PS - thanks for cleaning up the articles afterwards - I always tend to forget categories and defaultsort details! Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:55, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * My iPad is only a few months old and still under warranty. ;) So I guess it's YouTube videos for me.
 * The art in the game is rather lovely. With the few levels I've played, though, I noticed that you're given the same ten or so objects to find over and over, even though there's typically dozens of objects in the pictures. The use of British English terminlogy was also kind of problematic when the challenges are timed. I had to pause the game to Google "bunting." &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 06:19, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm actually running it on Nox which is an android emulator for Windows (makes it easier to get screenshots, take notes, etc). For a similar approach, you might look at Bluestacks android emulator if you have a Mac.
 * The art is nice and it's great to finally have canonical images for some of the beasts, but I do agree that bunting, open tin, and other UK expressions obsfucates some of the objects even more (thankfully there is a hint system to help out). --Ironyak1 (talk) 07:38, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Boycotting?
Why?--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:17, November 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to get into it. Needless to say I'm extremely disappointed and appalled by this casting news. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 02:24, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Assuming it's true. And, if we only see him from behind, they may recast as a different actor for front on shots in later films.--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:34, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear that Starstuff - this casting announcement has definitely seen some backlash already, so you're not alone. --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:40, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'd understand if Depp was secretly cast and filmed his scenes before the events of this past May. But they've had months to quietly cut his footage, re-cast his role, and re-shoot his scenes. So that leaves me with two equally troubling conclusions: either Depp was cast and filmed his scenes post-May, or he was cast and shot his scenes pre-May, but the studio has been deliberately concealing that fact for six months in the hopes of preventing the entire lead-up to the film's release being dogged by controversy like Doctor Strange. They had to know that this fandom wouldn't react positively to Depp's inclusion in the film. This is a very socially-conscious fandom. Depp's actions aren't something that can be overlooked (or forgiven). &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 03:16, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Johnny Depp
Hey, how come you kept me from creating a page for Johnny Depp, he's already been announced to make a cameo appearance in the Fantastic Beasts movie and to have a larger role for the sequel. (Hobbiton777 (talk) 15:52, November 2, 2016 (UTC))
 * The casting has not been officially confirmed by Warner Bros. In the event it is, the person in question may be listed in the cast list of the article. An accused abuser will not be getting an article on this wiki on my watch. &#x2605;  S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 18:14, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Technically, that's abusing your privileges as a page will have to be made when the film comes out. You deny it, you're abusing the privileges of an admin and decreasing the usefulness of this wiki as you're preventing information from being added. Either that, or we get rid of you as an admin. And, just so we're clear, he was only accused; nothing was proven. Innocent until proven guilty. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 18:18, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Regarding my deletion of Depp article, I see it as an exercise of the "be bold" principle. This isn't Wikipedia, where there is a rigid, explicitly-defined set of deletion criteria that admins are charged with enforcing objectively. In general, it isn't best practice for wiki admins to act unilaterally or arbitrarily, but Wikia treats the wikis it hosts as self-governing communities, giving admins relatively wide latitude. We are allowed to make judgment calls if we believe they are in the best interests of the wikis we serve, and as long as were aren't acting against an established consensus. This is probably the biggest judgment call I've made in eight years on this wiki, but I stand by it. I determined that the potential harm of covering the subject in question (sending a harmful message to this wiki's primary intended audience of young readers and triggering abuse survivors) outweighed the benefits. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 20:34, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, Starstuff, if you believe that the lack of an official confirmation from Warner Bross somehow invalidates the claim that Johnny Depp has been cast as Grindelwald, then I believe it would have been more prudent if you had informed Hobbiton777 of the reason you denied the creation of a page for Johnny Depp in the first place. Furthermore, I'd say you are quite bold yourself.


 * An "accused abuser will not have a page on this wiki on my watch" is a rather impertinent thing to say, and as a very dedicated, if admittedly a bit argumentative, contribrutor to the wiki, I believe it would be the best interest of this wiki if we created a policy preventing any other individual Administrators from making "judgement calls" and stick to consensus if the only argument you can think of is "I am an Administrator, thus entitled". That is, forgive my bluntness, at least the only argument I found when reading your justification of your decision. I would also like to point out that creating a page for Johnny Depp, even if the source turned out to be inaccurate in the future, not even remotely constitutes to sending harmful messanges to the readers. Ninclow (talk) 21:29, November 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Please see this post for an in-depth explanation of my reasoning/feelings. The above post was intended more of a direct response to HPRules1's statement that I'm "abusing" my admin privileges. &#x2605; S t a r s t u f f  (Owl me!) 21:46, November 2, 2016 (UTC)