Talk:Albus Dumbledore

Name

 * No,his name is Albus Percival Wulfric BRIAN Dumbledore.


 * Also, Albus is the name of one of the Geomantic symbols and means "White".
 * The parts of the UK theory still holds. One of the older names for Britain was
 * Albion. Referring to the white cliffs.
 * MorningstarLucifer 04:26, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Gandalf
In reading through the biography I began to be reminded a little bit, would it be relevant to mention the similarities? Beyond obvious things like being bearded uberwizards, there's how they both specialize in fire magic, both sort of sacrifice themselves and fall to their doom, both help a tiny invisible boy defeat a dark lord who stored their life force in one of the rings they're wearing... Ty 06:00, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

While very true, and others may feel differently then me, but I don't think that the connection is really all that relevant. Although very similar, LOTR was written in an entirely fictional version of our world. Whereas Harry Potter is fictional, it is set in a more mirror image of our world. --BachLynn23 21:53, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Might I add, Harry was only invisible when cloaked, Albus died before he fell, and when was Frodo or whoever invisible? 94.4.163.60 21:12, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Gandalf, like Dumbledore, was based on the archetypal wizard of folklore, as was Merlin; that's why all three are so similar, one to another. The archetype probably can be traced back at least to Odin, chief of the Norse gods. — RobertATfm (talk) 09:35, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Dumbledore in Gryffindor?
Is there any quotable reference in the books that Dumbledore was indeed in Gryffindor?


 * In the GoF movie, Dumbledore remarks to Harry while visiting him in his Gryffindor dormitory, "I never liked these curtains. Set them on fire in my fourth year. By accident, of course." Per the Canon policy this qualifies as canon, as it doesn't directly conflict with the books. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:14, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * So it's from the movie! I saw this about the curtains in the article, but it's not referenced. Aryllia 17:36, November 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * One doesn't have to be in Gryffindor to know of or set the curtains in the Gryffindor dormitory on fire. How do you know he didn't sneak in the Gryffindor dormitory and set the curtains on fire? 71.255.80.157 06:23, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

How shall he have come in? You need a passwort to get into the Gryffindor tower. Normally only Gryffindors do know that. Harry granger 12:17, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hermione states on the Hogwarts Express during Sorcerer's Stone that she hopes she can be in Gryffindor because she "heard that Dumbledore himself was in it". I believe JKR also mentioned it at some point, but I could be mistaken. 107.8.127.218 21:34, February 16, 2013 (UTC)'laine

is it true
is it true that dumbledore was gay? KLOKOCHAR 20:48, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. Rowling revealed that Dumbledore was gay in an interview. You can read it here. - Nick O'Demus 20:50, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * JK also said in that interview that him and grindeweld might have had a fling in that summer they were together wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!MINISTER 14:27, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, no she didn't. Read it again. All she said was that Dumbledore had feelings for Grindelwald. She even said in a later inerview that Grindelwald didn't love Albus. 70.249.153.203 17:07, July 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, in the interview, even though she states that Grindewald did not have feelings for Dumbledore, it is not clear what his orientation was --BachLynn23 21:55, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also Hagrid: "Come out t' th' shed wit' me, Harry, there's somethin' I want t' show ye..."

Main Image
Is there a way we can get an image of Dumbledore where we see MORE of him(like maybe to where we can see his beard)? I'm not trying to be controlling or anything, but whenever I go to this particular article, I would like to see a good image of Dumbledore as the main image(although in my case, a good image to where we see a lot of Dumbledore to where we at least see his beard). So, if someone can put it up(and make sure it's a GOOD image also), it would mean a lot to me, thank you. 75.89.203.87 00:22, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * A main image change for Dumbledore would require a vote. --JKoch Ravenclawcrest.jpg(Owl Me! ) 01:07, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I would like to suggest this image should be the main image, if you please. CJSFan 02:53, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, I take it that we are suppose to vote? If so, we need to give each image a name, so we know what to vote for.CJSFan 21:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * The images from the cave are terrible.I suggest this others:Pol 871 23:40, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Shall we do a vote


 * I think the fifth one looks best as main image. --TheBook — (talk | contribs) 16:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the one with snowflakes in it/ the 9th Abrawak 17:32, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the 6th one, the one where Dumbledore is sitting down(the second pic to the right). Because it's the most recent pic of Dumbledore, where he wears his headmaster's costume(basically, the MAIN Dumbledore costume). CJSFan 19:49, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, bear in mind that the infobox pic can only be 250px wide, so a wide pic like about half the ones suggested here wouldn't work all that well. Profile pics would look better. - Nick O'Demus 09:29, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

What about this one? --TheBook — (talk | contribs) 10:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I like the 6th picture of him sitting. I think we should have a fairly recent picture of Dumbledore from the HBP and the 6th picture shows more of him before his death. Lee7003 10:25, July 24, 2010 (UTC) Ok, now that since some pics are removed(and I assume we're still voting), I still pick the picture of Dumbledore sitting. CJSFan 10:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, voting has been going on and there have been no objections. So, I think the pic with Dumbledore sitting is the winner(as one of the people who voted for the image). CJSFanBlack Pearl 04:21, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images

Gone from Hogwarts
How many times did he leave Hogwarts in Harry Potter book 6. Don't say his last journey to the Cave. --Danniesen July 6 2010 16:59

dumbledor richard harris
perhaps richard harris should get some picture credit and other credit for his part in the role ,,,, im sure it was intended that he continue the role into all the films were he not to pass away

Age
In an interview with JK, she said Dumbledore is 150 years old, yet it says on here that he's 115. Shall we change it ? Link here:

http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-scholastic-chat.htm


 * While it's true that Rowling did say he was 150 in that 2000 interview, on the Wizard of the Month section of her website she gives his birth year as 1881. Since the WotM information was released around 2007, the canon policy is to go with the most recent information. - Nick O'Demus 10:37, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * But 1: Rowling said that he was 150 first, so that should be the real age. And 2, the first one was said by Rowling. If it's she who edits her own website she's been caught contradicting herself. Now all we need to do is ask her which is correct. For now let's keep it at 115 though, if that's the canon policy.


 * Also, the death date says 1996. Is this a typo?



Minor edit, but...
There is a "the" in front of the "a specific Chocolate Frog Card". I tried to edit it, but I couldn't, since I'm newly registered. Could somebody else do it? Please? RolandaSmithson 23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Minor edit, but...
There is a "the" in front of the "a specific Chocolate Frog Card". I tried to edit it, but I couldn't, since I'm newly registered. Could somebody else do it? Please? RolandaSmithson 23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Richard Harris nationality
In the behind the scenes section of this article it says that Dumbledore was portrayed by British actor Richard Harris. However, Harris was not British, he was Irish. He was born in County Limerick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Harris

Good catch. I'm not sure if I can add it in (I suppose you could call me "new"), and I'd have to say the admins should check this too before it goes in the article. But still, nice job. American che {TWIST THOSE KNOBS! PULL THOSE LEVERS!} 19:46, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

What weakened him?
Was it the ring that weakened him or was it the potion? Abrawak 19:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not too sure. The ring did weaken him somewhat, but I think it was the Drink of Despair that totally weakened him before his death. AlastorMoody 06:12, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Main Picture
I noticed the main picture of the article was changed. Was this voted on? Texthawm |  ==>  Send an Owl  01:04, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Appearance: Scar
I'm not sure if this should be added or not, because it's not a confirmed fact.

But Dumbledore once told McGonagall that he had a scar of the London Underground above his left knee (he said it once, in Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone). Should this be added to his physical description? Just a suggestion.

He says it here: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone, Chapter 1, Page 15, Paragraph 7

headmaster of hogwarts
it says that when dolores wasn't headmaster anymore dumbledore became headmaster this is true of course but then it goes over in Minerva McGonagall shouldn't Severus Snape be there in between

so it should be :

Dolores-->Albus-->Snape-->McGonagall

and not

Dolores-->Albus-->McGonagall


 * It's Dolores->Albus->McGonagall->Snape->McGonagall
 * McGonagall was the headmistress in late June 1997. --Ravenclawcrest.jpgThe Evening Prophet Ravenclawcrest.jpg (Owl Post ) 22:56, April 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Technically it was Albus --> Minerva --> Dolores --> Albus --> Minerva --> Severus --> Minerva
 * This was because on the night of Albus' sacking, Albus appointed McGonagall as the Headmistress but the next morning, Dolores was appointed. After Albus died, McGonagall became Headmistress for 2 months. I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!  14:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would say it was Albus --> Minerva (Chamber of Secrets) --> Albus --> Minerva (OotP) --> Dolores --> Albus --> Minerva (after Albus' death) --> Severus --> Minerva --> unknown head at the epilogue time. Harry granger 18:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dumbledore's Army
Shouldn't the D.A. relationship section be expanded or changed? It mainly focuses on the D.A. itself, rather then it's relationship with Dumbledore.

Whatwouldthewealeytwinsdo? 07:51, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Death date
I realised something. Under the law, set by the Decree for Justifiable Confiscation, the Ministry can keep Dumbledore's bequests in their possession for no more than thirty-one days unless they can prove they are dangerous. Scrimgeour delivered Dumbledore's will on 31 July, Harry Potter's birthday because, as Hermione said, "the thirty-one days are up". Therefore, wouldn't he have died on the evening of 30 June, setting the skirmish at the Horcrux cave and the Battle of the Astronomy Tower on that day, too? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've never really noticed that but yeag. That's brilliant actually. I think we should put that down in the article. —German eagle logo.Png  Firefox1095 German eagle logo.Png— 00:48, April 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Shall I add the date to articles, then? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, we should.--Rodolphus 19:02, April 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, I've found out that this date, 30 June, 1997, was the date Bloomsbury originally published Philosopher's Stone in London. =) -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 19:16, April 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just being the devil's advocate here, but I'm sure we're all familiar with Rowling's reputation with numbers and dates. : / - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 11:14, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nonetheless, we have nothing that makes her believe her to be wrong. In fact, all evidence seems to fit: from the books we know that that it happened in June (HBP25), and the original script for Half-Blood Prince seems to suggest that it was on late June ("DUMBLEDORE: What brings you out on such a fine Spring evening? Or is it Summer?"). Granted, this line wasn't on the final film, but still. The only problem I see with this date is that the summer holidays become a bit shorter than the other ones, but I can go with that. -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 13:09, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I kind of agree with Nick O'Demus. Despite of being the brilliant writer and author she is, we all know (or at least most of us know) that when it comes to numbers and dates, Rowling is not the person for that job. —German eagle logo.Png <font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="Black"> Firefox1095 German eagle logo.Png— 03:58, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... but in After The Burial, they told that lessons were suspended and examinations postponed. The school year ends on July 1. So Dumbledore couldn't have died on 30. Moreover, Slughorn says that the Hogwarts Express should be leaving early. I think it was sometime between June 15-20. Also, it was never stated that Dumbledore's will was discovered on the day he died. I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!  14:17, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

If he did die on 30 June, it makes me feel like Dumbledore is a little mad before he dies in the sixth movie, since it's been summer for nine days now, and not spring... Hmm, just my opinion on that, haha. --AlastorMoody 06:17, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I believe the 31 days pass after Dumbledore's funeral, when Scrimgeour was at Hogwarts and was able to seize his possessions. This allows us to surmise that Dumbledore was buried on 6/30, but that hisdeath occurred weeks prior, perhaps 6/5 (Thursday) by my calculation. I believe this is more likely for a number of reasons: 1. The Cave trip and his death occur on a day just "as they moved into June" (536). 2. OWLs seem like a rigid process that would always occur around the same time (beginning of June), and Ginny had yet to take them when Dumbledore died (surely she wouldn't take them in July... 3. There is a large passage of time after his death. If he died on the 30th, Harry would spend just days at the Dursleys, which we know not to be true.

Furthermore, in book 7, it is said that Rita Skeeter finished her autobiography about 4 weeks after death. She is interviewed for the Daily Prophet's 7/27 edition. By this time, Skeeter's book has been reviewed by a great many in the wizarding community. So, the book had to be ready in early July (4 weeks preceding=early June).

Finally, Harry says on 7/27 that Mr. Dursley had been changing his mind for four weeks about leaving 4 Privet Drive. As a lot of time is said to have passed from when Dumbledore died and when he was buried, surely he could not have died on 6/30. So, the 31 days must pass from the funeral when Scrimgeour was at Hogwarts.

UpToNoGood (talk) 23:32, August 4, 2013 (UTC)UptoNoGood


 * You make a very good case, there. It is indeed a mistake to consider Dumbledore's death and the Ministry's seizure of his bequests as simultaneous events.
 * It does say, in Deathly Hallows, that Vernon had been changing his mind for four weeks (before 27 July), thus implying that Harry's been at home since, at the very latest, the 29th of June. In fact, the book also says that Kingsley and Mr Weasley stopped by "a few days into Harry's summer holidays" to explain the situation to the Dursleys; since "a few days" means, in the very least, two days, then the date is further pushed back to 27 June.
 * This is, I think, the latest possible date for the funeral to have taken place, as Half-Blood Prince makes it clear that "the Hogwarts Express would be leaving an hour after the funeral.
 * Again, as you correctly assert, I concede that there were a few days between Dumbledore's death and his funeral. The book doesn't make it clear on exactly how many but, given that they were positively more than one (and, again, presuming the least possible amount of time), then the latest Dumbledore could have been killed is the 25th of June.
 * Thoughts? -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 02:51, August 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't take "four weeks" as a literal compromisation of 28 days. JKR frequently uses "fortnight" to mean anywhere from 10-17 days, so I think "four weeks" could very easily be an approximation. I do continue to think the funeral would have taken place on June 30th, as the 31 days is too astute an observation to be insignificant (whether or not JKR actually cared about the date). Also, it is soooo Scrimgeour to come to a somber event under the guise of giving his condolences, but in reality, attempting to achieve an agenda. As for the time differential between death and burial, I think it was more than two. On HBP pg. 634, it says H,R,H,G were spending all their time together and visited the hospital wing "twice a day." Surely this would be an odd way to describe a two-day span. All in all, it is impossible to precisely date mortem in this case, but I think it is likely to have been weeks prior to burial based on the immediately preceding example, and because O.W.L.s had yet to take place.
 * UpToNoGood (talk) 03:12, August 5, 2013 (UTC)UpToNoGood

Transfiguration prof?
It says in the article that dumbledore was the transfiguration professor before becoming headmaster but I thought he was defense against the dark arts and that's where the 1 year curse came from...

He was indeed the Transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts, not Defence Against the Dark Arts. The jinx on the post that made it so a professor could only last one year was placed on it after Dumbledore refused the job to Voldemort, who had come to apply as the D.A.D.A. teacher, at which time Voldemort cursed it. --AlastorMoody 04:13, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Pottermore & dates
I put some of this information on McGonagall's talk page, but it's relevant to Dumbledore too. Basically, Dumbledore didn't become Headmaster in 1956...

As we found out in "Order of the Phoenix," McGonagall began teaching at Hogwarts in December 1956. It's not explicitly stated that she became Transfiguration professor that year, simply that she began teaching then.

We now know from Pottermore that, after the summer following her graduation from Hogwarts, McGonagall worked at the Department for Magical Law Enforcement for two years before joining the Hogwarts faculty. BUT...it says, "The owl returned within hours, offering her a job in the Transfiguration department, under Head of Department, Albus Dumbledore."

This means a couple of things...1) McGonagall did not succeed Dumbledore as Transfiguration professor in December 1956, she became something of a junior professor/professor's assistant. 2) If she joined the Hogwarts faculty in 1956, that means she worked at the Ministry from 1954 to 1956...which means she graduated from Hogwarts in 1954...and was born circa 1936 (not 1925). The 1925 birthyear came from an interview where Jo said Dumbledore was 150 and McGonagall was 70; that Dumbledore birthyear was later "overriden" by Jo's Wizard of the Month, which showed that Dumbledore was 115 when he died -- so the credibility of the 1925 year has been lacking.

And 3) Since McGonagall didn't replace him as Transfiguration professor right away, Dumbledore didn't become Headmaster in 1956 -- which makes sense with Lupin's testimony from "Prisoner of Azkaban", that he became Headmaster when Lupin was 11 (1971).Apwbd150 22:04, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm having second thoughts about this -- not McGonagall's birth year, but the year in which Dumbledore became headmaster. In "Half-Blood Prince" we learn that Voldemort met with Dumbledore shortly after the latter became headmaster to seek the DADA position. This couldn't have been the early 1970s, since Voldemort's reign of terror was already in effect by then; I doubt he would go Hogwarts during the middle of a war, and the way Dumbledore talks it sounds like he and the Death Eaters are in their early stages.


 * Dumbledore also says the Voldemort came to him 10 years after he killed Hepzibah Smith. He began working at Borgin and Burkes after graduating from Hogwarts in 1945 (which we know as a fact). So, at the earliest, Dumbledore became headmaster in 1956; at the latest, I'd say 1969. Perhaps, Dumbledore DID in fact become headmaster in 1956, but after McGonagall joined the faculty in December of that year. Apwbd150 22:30, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox image vote
Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images

Follow the link. Nominations are still open. Voting starts in 3 days. - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 14:51, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I am very glad to see that you have now changed the information in agreement with the books rather than the movies. When I last visited this website there seemed to be way to much information originating from the less than reputable works of David Yates. For example the article said (before it was changed) that Dumbeldorehad barely survived his duel with Voldemort

Good Updates
I am very glad to see that you have now changed the information in agreement with the books rather than the movies. When I last visited this website there seemed to be way to much information originating from the less than reputable works of David Yates. For example the article said (before it was changed) that Dumbeldorehad barely survived his duel with Voldemort

99.8.168.220 21:54, August 30, 2011 (UTC)Reader

New Main Photo?

 * I don't really think we need to have a picture of Dumbledore from Deathly Hallows: Part 2 as main image. Not in the present time, anyway. These pictures are dreadfully low quality, cannot even compare to the one we have now. Also, they all have weird angles on (or are too close to) Dumbledore's face to be a proper main image. -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 18:36, October 10, 2011 (UTC


 * I understand they're dreadfully low quality. But is that to say we'll never have Gandalf-Dumbles as main image? AlastorMoody 21:40, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * If there isn't a proper image of him in that scene to serve as main image, then I think not. -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 22:37, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Since the film is out, I've found two super high quality pictures of him? Would either of these suffice? AlastorMoody 02:43, November 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * But on second thought, they seem to lower in quality as I transfer them to my desktop to the wiki. Any idea why? They were a bit better, if I recall correctly. AlastorMoody 02:44, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * They look fine to me, but that's just my opinion. If it were between those 2, I'd say the second one. But if those won't work, we could use either of the ones where he was talking to Harry at the end(particularly cropped versions of this one or this one). --[[Image:CJSFan Sig.png|link=User:CJSFan|75px]]Black Pearl, HMS Interceptor, Queen Anne's Revenge  03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Skills section update
as I am a guest I'm not allowed to edit Dumbly's page, so if a registered person could do this for me please? I noticed in the section magical abilities and skills under the 'master of the deathly hallows' it is mentioned that (quote) "Dumbledore was also the first master of the Elder Wand who did not use it to commit murder or brag of it to the public." We don't know all the owners of the elder wand, so we can't assume that every single person who owned it was a murdering git. Also, didn't it dissapear for about a centuary or two? Maybe this was caused by someone with good intentions like Dumbledore. Unless JKR's mentioned something on Pottermore, I think it should be changed to "Dumbledore was also the only known master of the Elder Wand who did not use it to commit murder or brag of it to the public." (emphasis mine). Yeah, it's a little nit picky, but I think the canon policy says no assumptions? 75.54.94.163 20:24, December 27, 2011 (UTC) Guest

I personally liked Dumbledore, and was actually sad when I read that he died. Dumbledore was a great man, and this was a great article, filling all the gaps about his life. I would suggest making a summary for it though, because it is so long.

User:BaconRanger 01:56, March 2, 2012 (UTC)BaconRanger

Want to make minor edit stating that "Dumbledore is gay"...
Hello. I am new on this wiki and have signed up having noticed the line confirming Dumbledore's homosexuality.

I have tried to edit it but apparently the article will only let me view the source. Why? Does it have to do with my experience as a new member, or is it a special case?

Anyway, perhaps someone would look after that particular passage. For one I've read that there is still debate on whether Rowling's statement would indeed be considered canon. And at least I see it relevant to plug in a preparatory device, such as something like "J.K. Rowling stated publicly", or "J.K. Rowling idealises Dumbledore as...", etc.

Just giving you insight. Awaiting your response.

LoniousSphere 14:45, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Rowling's word is law. She says Dumbledore is gay, so he is. Also, the wiki is written from an in-universe perspective. Which means the Harry Potter saga is chronicled as if it actually happened. Things like "J.K. Rowling stated publicly" etc are the domain of the behind the scenes sections. Jayden Matthews 15:26, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Puddlemere United
Not sure if this should go on the wiki, but Dumbledore was plobably a Puddlemere United supporter. From Quidditch Through the Ages "May I also take this opportunity to wish Puddlemere United the best of luck next season."

How strange
So he died at age 115...well, in the film Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Ron says that Dumbledore is 150. 94.15.20.238 09:27, June 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * That was just the trio joking around. Albus' age of 150 is not canon since JKR said that 115 is the correct age he died at. --KiumaruHamachi 15:25, June 5, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi


 * In what media? 94.15.20.238 08:48, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's one of this wiki's policies that information from the books or J. K. Rowling herself is higher canon than what's in the films. When Rowling was doing the "Wizard of the Month" section on her website, she listed Dumbledore's birth year as 1881, and the references at the bottom of the article will explain why it was likely in July or August. Plus, if I remember correctly, in the movie Ron says "He's like, what, a hundred and fifty?", so it's likely Ron was just guessing. - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 09:21, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Albus body
In the page, there's something that says Dumbledore 'is one of the few individuals in the Wizarding World whose body would be in-corrupt in death'. Is there a reference for the fact he is one of the few dead fellows that did'nt decompose?

Herbertvianna (talk) 23:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Removed. - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 14:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Title shorts
What are these shorts of: D. Wiz., X.J.(sorc.), S. of Mag.Q. ? --94.191.187.123 17:20, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, I asked you something. --94.191.187.51 08:30, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Problem with "Dumbledore is gay" paragraph"
In this article it says "Dumbledore was gay, but after reflecting that falling in love with Gellert Grindelwald in his youth had led him to lose his moral compass, he no longer trusted his own judgement in such matters.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-carnegie_15-0">[16] <sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-jkrstudent_16-0">[17] As a result, he became "quite asexual," and lead a "celibate and bookish life.""

This is misinterpeting what J.K. Rowling said, and also the wording of it makes it sound like Dumbledores moral failing was his sexaulity.

This is what Rowling says

from here http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2008/3/8/new-j-k-rowling-interview-confirms-working-on-scottish-book-reflects-on-dumbledore-homophobia-fundamentalism-future-writing-projects-and-more

"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'TrebuchetMS',Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify;">"I had always seen Dumbledore as gay, but in a sense that's not a big deal. The book wasn't about Dumbledore being gay. It was just that from the outset obviously I knew he had this big, hidden secret, and that he flirted with the idea of exactly what Voldemort goes on to do, he flirted with the idea of racial domination, that he was going to subjugate the Muggles. So that was Dumbledore's big secret.

<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Why did did he flirt with that?" she asks. "He's an innately good man, what would make him do that. I didnt even think it through that way, it just seemed to come to me, I thought 'I know why he did it, he fell in love.' And whether they physically consummated this infatuation or not is not the issue. The issue is love. It's not about sex. So that's what I knew about Dumbledore. And it's relevant only in so much as he fell in love and was made an utter fool of by love. He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrusting of his own judgment in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and bookish life."

<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">My understang is this:

<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Dumledore fell in love with the dark wizard Grindelwald, who was into dark magic and blood purity supremacy. THAT was Dumledores moral failing, falling in love with Grindelwald, but not the act of falling in love with a man. I don't think the author of this article made that mistake intenntially, but it needs to be changed.

<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Also regarding his sexuality. When rowling says he led a asexual celibate life that doesen't mean he is not longer a gay. Asexual can be a sexuality, but I don't think that's what Rowling meant by her comment. He simply no longer persued romantic relationships, that doesen't mean he isen't still gay.

<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Could an editor please make the changes I've suggested here? This article is locked. Thank you. Muggledoor (talk) 06:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Dumbledore's first wand
Hello, I was wondering if we can try to solve the mystery of Albus Dumbledore's first wand, according to what I read in Pottermore, wand woods, I think that Dumbledore's wand was made of applewood. He could not buy his wand from Garrick Ollivander but maybe from his family, and according to his (Ollivander's) research, applewood are "best suited to an owner of high aims and ideals, as this wood mixes poorly with Dark magic" (as Dumbledore dream with it, but then refuses) and that "it is said that the possessor of an apple wand will be well-loved and long-lived" (again, like Dumbledore) and it also said that "an unusual ability to converse with other magical beings in their native tongues is often found among apple wand owners" (as Dumbledore can speak Mermish and Gobbledegook and as he can recognize Parseltongue and also was able to quote verbatim a Parseltongue phrase). The core of his wand I believe was probably phoenix, but for the time he buy his wand the three most powerful cores (dragon, unicorn and phoenix) were extremely rare, it maybe was something else. Dumbledore's wand length and flexibility was probably at the edge of normal length 14" or more as he was a tall man.
 * Well this is my hypothesis, and I hope some of you like to participate in this discussion. Silver  ( Discusión ) 00:54, December 9, 2012 (UTC).


 * While you're free to come to your own decisions about things not stated in any canon source, such as the makeup of Albus Dumbledore's original wand, this wiki does not allow speculation or original research, and thus such a discussion would be against policy. If you wish to have such a discussion somewhere, a Harry Potter forum or chat room would be a more appropriate place. This page may be a good place to start searching for one. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 01:35, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

More suitable main picture?
I really think that there should be a different main picture. The current one doesn't look good, I think. What about these:

I like the first one a lot. -- PerryPeverell 14:07, January 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * No offence, but as we're supposed to use the most recent one as canon and all three of those were earlier than HBP (which is where the current one is from), we're supposed to use the one we have now. At least, that's how the other articles are, sorry to say. -- <font face="Bridgnorth" size="4" color="Indigo">Hunnie Bunn (<font face="Bridgnorth" size="3" color="Indigo">Owl me! ) 14:29, January 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. Still, I think there should be another, more suitable picture for Dumbledore's infobox. -- PerryPeverell 17:28, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Who Is More Powerful And More Skilled Dumbledore Or Voldemort81.105.242.35 10:42, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Dumbledore's height
He was described as a tall man. So it's unlikely he is just 5'11" tall as listed in the "Physical Information" column. Note that Hermione was also listed as 5'11" tall.Shengtom (talk) 11:20, March 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * Regardless, we have to go with the most canon fact, and as his height was given as 5'11" in this image. Therefore, that is his height unless J. K. Rowling says differently. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 18:16, March 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * Why not use Sir Michael Gambon or Richard Harris's height (1,83 or 1,85m respectively), instead? There is no way that Dumbledore was a mere 5'11
 * The actor's height is irrelevant; if there's official documentation that states Dumbledore is a certain height, then he is that height. -- Snorlax Monster  16:14, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Age 2
Before you read this, you should know that it is translated by Google Translate, because I'm from Denmark and is not very good English.

Aunt Muriel said to Bill and Fleurs wedding on 1 August 1997 that she was 107 years old. This means that she was born in 1890. She also says verbatim (in Danish) “Men det kan alle os der ikke var født dengang ikke vide noget om” (in English)  "But it's all of us who were not born then not know anything about" to Elphias Doge and Harry Potter, how Ariana Dumbledore died. This means that Ariana died before Aunt Muriel was born. And Ariana died when Albus was 18 years. This means that Albus Dumbledore have to be born before 1872, probably earlier (1890-18=1872).

It may be a translation error, but I can be right


 * However, JKR gave us the 1881 - 1997 dates we have now. Therefore, the word of Muriel is not as canon as what we have now. However, I approve of the hard work you put into it. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 20:08, April 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know about the Danish version, but in the Scholastic version, the line Muriel says to Harry is: "It all happened years and years before you were even thought of, my dear, and the truth is that those of us who were alive then never knew what really happened." (Chapter 8: The Wedding)


 * Since in English she uses the line "those of us who were alive then", this would mean Muriel WAS alive around the time of Ariana's death. - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 06:21, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Birthday, Part II
The timeline states that Dumbledore died on 30 June, 1997, and that he was 115 at the time. Apparently he was born in 1881. Problem is, 1997-1881=116. He should have been 116 when he died, not 115. Which means his birthday was before 30 June. The earliest day the Hogwarts Express has left Hogwarts Castle was 20 June; he was born after 20 June, as he was noted to be leaving Hogwarts approaching his seventeenth birthday. So the possible birth range is 21 June - 29 June. Well, technically 21 June - 28 June, as it was around midnight that he died. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 14:53, July 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Dumbledore's birthday is around July or August, 1881. If he died on 30 June, 1997, then he'd still be 115, days to a month shy of his 116th birthday. -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 20:20, August 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Exactly. His file states his birthday is thus: [iron cross], [number 6]/[asterisk]/[circle divided into six] [capital P in Astrology 1 font]. Seemingly random; can we thus dispute the files as being pointless in terms of providing actual birthdays? Or is perhaps the 6 (there is both a number six and a circle divided into six) a symbolism in itself? Is Dumbledore's birthday perhaps 6 July? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:28, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Title shorts
What does D. Wiz., X.J.(sorc.), S. of Mag.Q. mean? --DCLM (talk) 20:33, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Birthday (III)
Perusing my copy of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows once more, I noticed something: Dumbledore and Doge were staying at the Leaky Cauldron a day after their graduation, at which point Dumbledore was still seventeen. The following day, however, the then-eighteen year old Dumbledore returned to Godric's Hollow to care for his family. If on 30 June he was only seventeen and on 1 July he was eighteen, doesn't it make sense his birthday was 1 July? Or am I missing something? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 21:09, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you provide exact quotes? Or at least chapter/page numbers? I'm having difficulty verifying this information. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 23:47, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * "On the very eve of our trip, Albus's mother, Kendra, died, leaving Albus the head, and sole breadwinner, of the family."

- Elphias Doge (CH 2)


 * He wouldn't be allowed to care for his family if he wasn't an adult? Or maybe they made an exception? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 23:59, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * But remember, in both Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows it's stated that wizards come of age at seventeen, not eighteen. - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 03:27, October 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ooooh, sorry, I'd forgotten that. Never mind (oops!) --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 19:31, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Michael Gambom&Richard Harris
I was wondering shouldnt there be an explanation on why dumbledore looks different In universeOrangerichard56 (talk) 07:54, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Death
Is it ever explicitly stated that he died in June? It is a mere week or two after the attack on Draco Malfoy with Sectumsempra that Dumbledore dies, and unless I am much mistaken that happened in May. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

According to Scrimgeour (and Hermione) in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Chapter 7 (The Will of Albus Dumbledore), the Ministry has the right to maintain possession of Dumbledore's bequests for thirty-one days only, in accordance with the Decree for Justifiable Confiscation. Dumbledore's bequests were delivered to Ron, Hermione and Harry on 31 July 1997: Harry Potter's seventeenth birthday. As it is referred in that chapter that the "thirty-one days are up", Dumbledore died exactly thirty-one days earlier, in the evening of 30 June. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:12, October 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * How likely is it that the Ministry grabbed his stuff the night he died? It's generally agreed they took the possessions on the day of the funeral. We therefore know the funeral took place on 30 June, and that his death happened a few weeks prior to that. Therefore, it could be either very late May or very early June. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * The will would have been turned over to the ministry the moment he passed away, as wills do in the Muggle world too. They had the will for 31 days, thus he died at the end of June. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:27, October 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * So, we know he died sometime in late June, as per Betty Braithwaite's newspaper article in the Daily Prophet. We know the exams usually happen from the 1st to the 6th (except for 1994, where they happened around the 24th), and that they were postponed for a few days. They ended anywhere from three to seven days before the funeral, during which Harry, Ginny and the lot visited the hospital wing, and that they go on for a week. Thus, they ended anywhere from the 29th to the 25th, and thus began on either the 22nd or 18th. Is there any way of pinpointing a more exact death date? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 22:30, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Age, birthday, whatever...
Sorry, but can anyone find a source saying he had turned eighteen during his time with Grindelwald? I can't seem to find one. All it says is he was approaching his eighteenth birthday. I personally think that means he was born in July, but it could mean anywhere from July to October (or possibly November, but that's unlikely). Am I missing something? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 13:45, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

The article says (albeit unsourced) that Dumbledore hadn't had his birthday through the time he was with Grindelwald ... is there a source for that? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 13:53, November 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * If so, his birthday would be 31 August. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 22:23, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Master of Death
Should it not be pointed out that he was Master of Death, having possessed all three Hallows for a period of time. Pesa123456789 (talk) 14:21, January 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * He did not, however, possess all three Hallows concurrently. He gave Harry the Cloak of Invisibility for Christmas in 1991, and only got the Ressurection Stone in the summer of 1996 (between the close of Order of the Phoenix and the start of Half-Blood Prince, when he got his hand cursed). -- <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 15:39, January 4, 2014 (UTC)