Forum:Treatment for similar images/Archive 1

Hi all! In short, I've been deleting duplicated images on HPW: If it's 100% carbon copies or size-reduced that type of files, there's not much to argue about; however, I find the following two scenarios trickier, and would like the community's input on the matter.

I think the way to go is to follow up by adding your input to whichever sub-discussion you want to comment on, whether you think only one of them should be kept (kindly point out which one), or why both should be kept, or if there's other ways to resolve the issue, then sign your signature. =]

P.S.: I am not all-knowing. What I posted is just what I've personally come across, please feel absolutely free to add images in similar situations if they have not been posted here already, so they can be discussed. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)


 * I'll update votes for items when applicable. Out of the current 78 sections,  the following 6 only need two more votes if they happened to agree with the current votes, so feel free to start viewing those first to get them out of the way: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:10, January 17, 2019 (UTC)


 * The faster more people vote, the quicker the daunting list below can likely be shortened. The similar GIFs increased to the point there's so much to scroll through, so bear with the edit-by-film-batch instead of edit-by-individual-cases. If it gets back below 20 again perhaps that can be rearranged, but with 70+ ones, it's rather unlikely people would want to reply one-by-one anyways.
 * -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

GIFs
For .gif files, unlike unmoving images, I think even when they are depicting the same sequence, depending on how they were created, they may not be registered as "obviously" duplicates.

Help speed up the process
Was tempted to proceed the following immediately after seeing the new vote, but had to remind myself that this post hasn't actually been posted for a month. I'll wait just a couple of days to hit the 1-month mark. =] -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:10, January 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * Decided to relocate and prioritize sections that have 2 votes for the same item for viewers to see. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 14:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Minerva McGonagall's demo on the skill of an Animagus

 * I thought a] is pretty good, though it included a peek of the reaction of the class, it didn't feel awkwardly cut.
 * And because I thought a] was good enough, was wondering if there's a need to keep b], c] and d] on the wiki. b] seemed laggy. d] isn't that bad, but it's cropped rather unconventional and I don't really see it being used in main namespace articles, but perhaps people would like to use it, idk. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer a], it's less laggy than d]. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep a] and get rid of the rest, it isn't laggy, and you have a clear view of the scene.   CosmicChronos       Talk to me       Contribs    14:35, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The Trio witnessing the hatching of Norberta
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 * 1st one larger in scale but I think is looped oddly, 2nd one contains longer sequence.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * IMO watching the first one is unbearable, it's far too short/seems almost sped up. Keep the 2nd one.   CosmicChronos       Talk to me       Contribs    14:35, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Vera Verto

 * a] is somewhat unfortunate to have included a peek of the reaction of the class.
 * The righthand side of b] looks like some seizure going on.
 * I thought c] was quite perfect (at least viewing through Safari it was), until realizing through Chrome, there's something odd going on on the bottom of the image.
 * Unsure about d], it also looks perfect, dunno if there's also hidden problems that Safari couldn't pick up.
 * e] is pretty nice, except for the fact it's 175px, not big enough to be used as the infobox image.
 * So basically, please help check if there's any problem with d]; or see if it's possible to help resolve the problems in either b] or c]. But either way, I really don't think we need 5 gifs for this spell. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * I see no problems with d] on FireFox, that's all I can say. I don't use any different browser, so. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Fake Moody killing a spider
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 * I thought the 1st one was good until I found the 2nd one, but I suppose some people would want to see fake Moody's face lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the first one, the second one looks a bit like a meme xD And I don't think anyone's gonna forget what Moody looks like any time soon. The first one has a better motion and quality, so. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahhh lol, sorry if the comment seemed confusing, I meant that I can see people wanting to include it was him casting the spell, since the other one only shows the wandpoint. I'm sure dedicated fans would know who was casting regardless though. (I don't prefer the 2nd one lol) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:47, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Dolores Umbridge spelling a kissing couple to break apart
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 * I've tagged the 1st file to be deleted because I felt the 2nd file to be more color-and-time-frame-accurate; however, the 1st file is 500px, so I can see some people might vouch for it, though to be fair, generally in-article images don't go beyond 250px, which is the width of the 2nd file. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * I vote to keep the second one, the first is laggy. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Arthur Weasley attacked by Nagini

 * a] contains a longer sequence that includes Harry getting the vision.
 * b] has the cut before the strike (without blood)
 * c] has the cut after the strike (with blood).
 * Am wondering if all three are needed. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I would actually vote for c], but I dislike the edited colour. I think I should go with a], it's laggy but it has more in it and it isn't edited. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

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Harry Potter receiving a bunch of Hogwarts acceptance letters
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 * Unsure, 1st one contains a longer sequence and looks clearer, but I can see the 2nd one illustrating the scene of being buried by a bunch of letters better lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * Prefer the 1st one, second one is quite filtered, 1st is more accurate.   CosmicChronos       Talk to me       Contribs    14:35, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry Potter's birthday cake from Rubeus Hagrid

 * 1st one, though wouldn't too mind the 2nd as long as there's only one file lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Rubeus Hagrid performing Human to pig on Dudley Dursley

 * I guess the 2nd one is the relevant part to illustrate the spell, but I like the full sequence. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Potter family photo in Harry Potter's photo album

 * 1st one larger in scale but I think is looped oddly; 2nd one has a longer sequence. Wish there's a compromise version. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione Granger performing Oculus Reparo
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 * Editing-wise, c] is probably the best one; wouldn't have minded trying to include Hermione, but I don't think the editing of lip movement in a] is accurate. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * a] is pretty laggy compared to c], I'd go for the latter.   CosmicChronos       Talk to me       Contribs    14:35, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
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Dobby Disapparating from 4 Privet Drive

 * 1st one is larger in size but the 2nd is clearer. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Weasley Clock

 * 1st one is larger in scale and consequently more visible, but is rather laggy at the beginning. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Ronald Weasley's failed Vera Verto

 * 1st one has a longer sequence and better edited. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Ron's failed Slug-vomiting Charm

 * I swear I feel there's a bunch of these, only seeing two for now.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Gilderoy Lockhart performing Brackium Emendo

 * a] is largest in scale, but b] contains lip movement of the spell being cast, and c] only contains the lip movement; I'm guessing it's best to keep a] & c] and ditch b], unless a better upload replaces any of them -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:49, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Ron and Harry pulling Mandrakes

 * 1st one larger in scale, but I like the second colorization.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:49, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Forbidden Forest Acromantula colony

 * No comment; my Arachnophobia is one of the few things I have in common with Ron. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I am Lord Voldemort

 * a] has the longest sequence and the only one with the complete reveal, though unfortunately containing an editing error where the sequence of the last "o" from "Marvolo" was shown twice. Other than that, I actually thought it was quite good. =/ -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Dobby blasting away Lucius Malfoy
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 * 1st one contains a longer sequence and is larger in scale, but unfortunately also laggier. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Boggart-Banishing Spell on a Severus Snape Boggart

 * Not sure if I have a preference. c] is largest but transitions less smooth. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Remus Lupin's Moon Boggart

 * a] has the longest sequence that actually showcase the scene well, though not smooth at the beginning. b] is one of those that for some reason thinks this wiki benefit from having shrunken dupes, which I'm totally against. Shrugs. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Draco Malfoy using the Paper Bird Charm

 * The 2nd one is more clearer but also easier spotted with the altered colorization, however, I also don't remember it supposedly looking this dark as the 1st one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Trio laughing during a Hogsmeade weekend trip

 * Don't think I have a preference for any of these. I think the scene itself probably could have a good GIF out of it, but just not the 3 above lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry practising the Patronus Charm

 * 1st one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Harry approaching Buckbeak

 * 2nd one is watermarked. Also feel like there might be more of those around. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us, too

 * 2nd one is likely edited (brightened).-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:49, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione setting up the Time-Turner

 * I wish the 1st one is larger but I still prefer it despite it being smaller. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione and Harry in the Hospital Wing experiencing time-change

 * Wouldn't be surprised if there's more variants lying around. Unsure which one has a more accurate timing, but the 1st one likely has more authentic colorization. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Harry's stag Patronus
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 * Pretty sure there're a bunch of those, so no comment just yet. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Leprechaun as Irish National Quidditch team's mascot

 * Unsure which timing is more authentic. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reappearance of the Dark Mark

 * Def. b] over a]; c] contains the conjuration though I feel like it might have been spread up, and it also cut short of the snake-tongue sequence. Wish there's a better version of it to represent this scene as one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Beauxbatons students performing Butterfly-conjuring spell

 * Feel like there might be some more lying around somewhere. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Human to ferret demonstrated

 * b] & c] are both longer in sequence but super laggy. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione's Yule Ball entrance

 * Not sure if c] is the clear winner atm; I feel like the closeup of this scene was a bit too short in it lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Grindylow
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 * Essentially the same, please vote for preferred colorization. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * The first one, the second one's colour is slightly off, it looks edited. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

2nd task

 * 1st one has a longer sequence that includes Gabrielle Delacour. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Viktor Krum's partial Human to shark Transfiguration

 * 1st one larger in scale but also super laggier. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Cedric Diggory's murder
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 * I'm so unfamiliar with the film that I have no idea if the 1st one is a montage of sort, but if not, it contains more info, just that the ratio is less ideal. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
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Harry vs Dementor
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 * 1st one has a longer sequence and is seemingly more authentic (cut-wise), but I think people can argue the 2nd one shows the Dementor a bit clearer. Dunno. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the second one, the graphic and quality is smoother. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Don't call me Nymphadora

 * a] actually had an exact dupe that was first taken care of. While b] & c] are clearer and perhaps are efficient for showcasing Tonks' Metamorphmagus ability when angered; the fact that the lip movement is easily understood just made both of them looking oddly cut, with the c] even had the subtitle "Nymphadora", which is rather distracting and not giving the full picture of the scene so to speak. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 01:23, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Ginevra Weasley casting the Reductor Curse
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 * The 1st looked more natural but less ideal in file aspect ratio, while the 2nd looked more edited (cut-scene and color).
 * I prefer the first, the edit doesn't look as good, to be frank. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Neville Longbottom Disarming Parvati Patil

 * 1st one all the way. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione's

 * b] is larger in size, but I feel both of them are somewhat "laggy" if that makes any sense. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:13, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * So I found this and this, neither being close to the film's aspect ratio, but I think comparing to the two we have on HPW, their motion are way more fluid and not looking like they were randomly pausing. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:09, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * c] & d] are of partial scenes. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Luna Lovegood's

 * 1st one contains a longer sequence, which I personally preferred, and is of higher quality, but just want to make sure if people are okay with ridding the 2nd image, seeing they aren't exactly the same. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:13, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Ron's
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 * 1st one is larger in scale but to me looks a bit laggy, 2nd one shows a slightly longer sequence. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * The second one lags on my screen, I vote for the first 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

In the Death Chamber

 * I don't see the value for b] & c], because basically combining them you'd get a]; but just checking if anyone vouch for them. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Sirius Black falling through the Veil
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 * 1st one contains Harry's reaction (though I'm not familiar with the film adaptations enough to know if the cut scene was true to the film) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * The cut scene is real, I believe, and I prefer the first one. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
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Bellatrix establishing an Unbreakable Vow between Severus and Narcissa

 * 2nd one is marked as User image but I'm pretty sure that was not the intention when it was first uploaded, wondering if the 1st would suffice. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Fred and George Weasley at Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes

 * 2nd one is oddly looped but very slightly more visible. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Ron's first kiss with Lavender Brown
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 * 1st one contains a longer sequence, but seems laggier. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the second, it's less laggy, and whoever made the first one made it into an endless loop. I'd be fine with it, but it doesn't look good on a kiss. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

First Horcrux creation of Tom Riddle

 * I'm sorry to say I have absolute no recollection of this scene, no preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry high on Felix Felicis during the Funeral of Aragog

 * Another scene I don't really remember. No comment. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Albus Dumbledore generating a Firestorm

 * 1st one is larger in scale but oddly looped. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Severus killing Albus
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 * 2nd one contains longer sequence, though both look heavily edited that I sort of wish something better is lying around. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
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Seven Potters changing clothes

 * 2nd one is partial from the 1st one, but I'm guessing it has a truer colorization. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The death of Hedwig

 * And here's proof on how I know my books better than I'll ever be with the adaptations. I was like, wait, so they changed it? Thought she was ironically hit when she was in her cage. Anyhow; 1st one laggy but I supposed you can see Harry's shock clearer. Though since this is second tier canon, I don't think quality matters that much since it's only suitable to be in BTS. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Erecto

 * I have no recollection of this scene so I have no idea which one is more authentic. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I Open at the Close

 * 1st one is larger in scale but unfortunately has a watermark on the top right.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione vs Antonin Dolohov

 * I am actually unsure; the more I look at it, the more I think those two may be depicting scenes one after the other instead of the same sequence, unless it's heavy editing to make them look less identical, but def. from the same duel. Documenting it in case a compromise is found along the way. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Fake Albert Runcorn casting Stunning Spell

 * I'm hoping a] is a very painful joke and okay to be rid of. b] contains a little followup sequence that would have made more sense if more were included, and c] is just the act of straight up stunning. =] -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Salvio hexia

 * I preferred the 1st. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry and Hermione Disapparating

 * I wish there's a version that's in between the two, the 1st one is more visible but also looked onerously edited, however, I also don't remember the original scene being this dark as the 2nd one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry messing around with fire

 * 1st one is larger in scale, but the 2nd one contains a longer sequence. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:03, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Draco and Narcissa firing spells
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 * No recollection; no real preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Trio escaping via riding the Gringott's Dragon

 * Don't really think I have a preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Ginny looking concerned

 * Let me start by saying I don't understand why this scene needs a GIF. Don't have a preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Kingsley Shacklebolt using Momentum-reversing spell

 * Torn; 1st one contains additional opening sequence that could be a little distracting, but I had to squint very hard to see the 2nd one clearly. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Minerva performing Piertotum Locomotor

 * Def. no for c]. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Minerva and Molly Weasley watching the animated suits of armour

 * Not entirely the same but fairly similar; I personally think both are awkwardly cut though. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Severus mourning for Lily J. Potter

 * Wouldn't be surprised if there's more variants lying around. No preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Bellatrix being her usual self

 * Preferred to be rid of the 2nd. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Neville beheading Nagini

 * 1st one is unfortunately slightly distorted. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Malfoy family 19 years later
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 * No preference-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Healing magic performed on Credence Barebone

 * No preference -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Newton Scamander's Boggart

 * 1st one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Newt, Leta, and Tina on the rotating shelves in the French Ministry of Magic Records Room
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 * Like the colorization of the 1st file, but prefer the aspect ratio of the 2nd. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the second in colourization, if the aspect ratio is better for you, then I guess it fits. I vote for the second. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Gellert Grindelwald casting Protego Diabolica

 * Like the aspect ratio of the 1st file, though tbh, I feel both files are cut rather abruptly. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)