User talk:Kates39/Archive1

This page is an archive of my talk page from July 29, 2016 to March 20, 2019.

Please do not edit it. If you want to send a comment, use the main talk page.

Bot request
Hi there! I've put in a bot flag request so I can apply the Pottermore links, UK spelling, and short link fixes I've been developing in an automated fashion. If you could take a moment and provide some feedback, it would be appreciated! Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:15, July 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the input and support! The bot uses a list of UK vs. US English spellings to make corrections, but I've found some of them to be archaic spelling diffferences. As you are actually across the pond, do you mind if I ask you about common British usage occasionally to sort out these historical oddities? --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:20, July 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks - your edits appear more skilful than most on this matter (skilful was new to me - added to bot dictionary :) Oxforddictionaries.com is useful for comparing UK and US English, but doesn't always make current usage clear. One that pops up a lot here is mediaeval vs medieval - is one usage more common or are both pretty standard? Thanks! --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:09, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Timelines
Yeah, I've been working through just the formatting issues so they are not completely clear to me either. See 2020s as this seems to break them down the clearest (but I'll need to review the script to make sure the divisions are correct as I don't remember a split between the 2nd & 3rd as shown there). Thanks! --Ironyak1 (talk) 21:01, August 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * So in - Scorpius, Hermione, Ron, & Snape go back in time to prevent Albus & Scorpius changing the first task. They then all return to a timeline which seems to be the same "2nd revised timeline" (Voldemort won, Herminone is a mudblood traitor, Umbridge was in charge and had a growing suspicion of Scorpius). So we need to think about if we can say this is in fact the same timeline or a third one.(probably best to post in the forums about alternate timelines to see how others think about this - will do so shortly)
 * As to the fourth/original timeline issue, the blanket having the message written in tincture of demiguise would make these different timelines? Otherwise the message would have appeared when the love potion first spills in the original timeline, right? The timeline changes feel inconsistent so it's hard to figure out how to describe them (I miss POA ;) --Ironyak1 (talk) 21:44, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Vote opened on Forum:Character Images and Infoboxes
Since you took part of the discussion over at Forum:Character Images and Infoboxes, I thought it would interest you to know that the vote on the matter has been opened. Cheers! --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:44, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Chat Moderator
Hello!

So I recently added an application for Chat Moderator (I know, sounds weird, I explain it all in the application), and I was just wondering if you could go and have a look to see what you think about it,

Hope that you are well, and that you have a nice day,

Thanks,

ArrestoMomentum &#124;  talk  02:18, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

I really appreciate the feedback! Thanks for the support!

Hope you have a really nice day,

ArrestoMomentum &#124;  talk  09:49, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

FB Short Links
Fantastic Beasts has options for the known iterations (in world, real, film, etc) thus far - see Template:FB. Options for the next films will likely be added when the next film title is announced and we have an article for it. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:16, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

RE FB film series
You can edit a redirect page by adding this tag to the page title http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Fantastic_Beasts_and_Where_to_Find_Them_(film_series)?redirect=no. The link for this can also be found near the top of a page after it has been redirected (like if you went to Fantastic_Beasts_and_Where_to_Find_Them_(film_series) and then choose the "Redirected from" link near the top.) Once there, you can edit the page, remove the REDIRECT info and add info as needed. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:52, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

Marauder's Map
Kate, I recently saw your edits on Book 3 The Mauraders Map. Thank you for your work trying keep a certain standard for posts in this wiki. However, I don't understand why you left the one post that you did and deleted the other two posts. The post you left is not about J.K. Rowling's mistakes but pondering why the characters in the book made the choices they did based on what we know about Rowling's world of magic. The other two posts had also fit the bill. If we use the more stringent standard of contradictions or mistakes in Rowling's writing then probably a third of all of these wiki posts needs to be deleted. Rather, this is an understanding place to also mention bemusement at choices characters make based on circumstances or what we know about how Harry Potter world magic works. Thanks! DAzim (talk) 14:25, September 22, 2016 (UTC)Daniel Azim P.


 * Oh, I see, that makes sense.  I appreciate you taking the time to explain the reasons for your edits. Sincerely, DAzim (talk) 20:40, September 22, 2016 (UTC)Daniel

Country or Kind debate
Can you add a reference to the Country or Kind? debate page? No matter how many times I do it, it doesn't work. Andrewh7 (talk) 00:59, October 8, 2016 (UTC) Andrewh7

Wiki thanks
I have been watching your edits over the past few months, and I must say I'm quite impressed with your contributions. Keep up the great work! :D ― C.Syde ( talk  |  contribs ) 11:32, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi.

I just found out!!! I am gonna ask Mr.Cooper to delete my page. I feel sad that there is no page left on this wiki uncreated... Have a nice day. THanks for telling.

Reverb frost (talk) 10:45, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Lucius
Can I talk with you in chat over this? It requires MAJOR discussion!--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 17:59, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Date checking
Hey - I was hoping you might have a chance to help search out a date. On Talk:Stanley_Shunpike, User:Rodolphus asked about when it was reported that Stan Shunpike is arrested as it gives his age as 21 at the time. I found that it's in on a Saturday only two weeks into semester, the same day as Gryffindor Quidditch tryouts and the day after Hannah is notified of her mother's death. Can you help look for clues about when 1 Sep falls for this year? In real life it's Sunday (which is useful for classes beginning on Monday), but this agreement is not always held to (classes seem to always begin on Monday regardless of the actual calendar?) If we can pin it down it helps anchor several different events so seems like fruitful area to explore. Any insight you can add to the discussion is much appreciated! Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:55, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

PS - FWIW, the old HP Lexicon HBP Calendar sets these dates by the real calendar, but checking for extra book clues to go by seems wise IMHO. --Ironyak1 (talk) 21:10, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Fidelius Charm - UK vs US
Hey - when you have a moment can you confirm the wording in the UK version of - "An immensely challenging spell involving the magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul." The US first edition version has complex, and I don't have the UK text to cross-reference (at least until the Illustrated Edition comes out in October :) and it's not listed as a difference at the HP Lexicon list. Thanks! Ironyak1 (talk) 17:10, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I copied our chat over to Talk:Fidelius Charm to make the quote information clear. --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:07, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

British expulsion
Sorry to bother, but I was hoping you might have some insight on the U.K. approach to Educational expulsion. Wikipedia notes that for the U.K. expulsions can be temporary or permanent. One of the hosts on SpeakBeasty mentioned something similar, that Newt being expelled may not mean it was permanent.

In the U.S., we use the term "suspension" for when a student is barred from attending a school temporarily, and use the term "expulsion" only when the ban is permanent. This might help explain the differing interpretations of Newt's situation at Hogwarts and the possible short and long-term consequences. Many thanks as always! --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:14, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Undo marathon
Hey - just letting you know I'll be around for the next couple hours so I can take over with the undo's whenever is needed. Thanks for tackling this problem - hopefully we can get it put to a stop soon! --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:58, April 30, 2017 (UTC)


 * FYI, I'll be around for the.next couple hours and can help out with the undos as needed. Thanks as always for doing some of this tedious work! --Ironyak1 (talk) 11:08, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Family categories
If you have a chance, can you take a look at Forum:Organizing_Family_categories and leave some feedback? Need a review of the idea before implementing. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:17, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback - always good to have another opinion before changing several hundred articles :) Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:50, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Ilvermorny students
Dear Kates39, I saw that you got rid of my edits for repeated names. I don't understand why because J.K. Rowling said that Seraphina, Queenie, and Tina went to the school, so I would like to know why that was a problem. Thanks and have a great day! From, User:Skua_the_SeaWing_(SushiChef) (talk)

UK spelling check
Hello again. Could you please confirm that in "The place is destroyed — moonlight filters through gaps in the roof, and Chastity lies dead amid debris from the attack." should not be philtres? I think it's a historical usage that was hiding in the US to UK dictionary that the bot is using. Thanks! --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:11, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

Fleamont Family
It might not be my place, but Henry Potter's mother is pure-blood because the definition of pure-blood is "someone with no muggle or muggle-born ancestry" and someone who's ideology is "no marriage to Muggleborns and Muggles" (which is why the family blood status changed on James's marriage to Lily as they dropped the pure-blood ideology) so they qualify for pure-blood. To fit the "pure-blood ideology" that James breaks by marrying Lily, his parents, grandparents, great grandparents (which is where the Henry Potter's mother comes in!) and so on, have to be pure... And given that Ironyak's meddling on this wiki goes against what we know Pure-blood to be, I'm not entirely sure he's the right person to ask in the slightest. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 22:55, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

RE Fleamont family
Yes, you have that right. per the "grandparent rule", James Potter I's parents and grandparents must not be Muggles or Muggle-borns (hence pure-blood or half-blood if they are not Squibs). This doesn't appear to give us much insight into the Fleamont family though - the Fleamonts may all be muggles and her mom is the first witch to marry into the name, or they could be a wizarding family name with her mother being a muggle (or many other possibilities). Not sure we can say infer anything about the family status as whole.

This is clearly an issue for some to take in so it might be a bit messy for awhile, but this definition is clearly stated by JKR so it's easy to defend and has backing by long-standing editors. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 00:02, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Auror rank
Hello! ^^' '''Hey. I was wondering why you changed the job title of E. W. Limus from Chief Auror to Commander when it is clearly stated here that he was Chief. The references you provided on the page you made - Commander of the Aurors - do not have the name Commander on them.'''

That was my mistake, I didn't know how to put up the list, so I copied and pasted the setup when adding the rank "Commander", and MIGHT have messed up a bit. ^^

'On the Auror page, you put C. H. Limus as the Chief and moved E. W. Limus under the title Commander of the Aurors even though they are the same person, but until today, we didn't have a clear reference to see the name properly.

I'm confused... How is C. H. Limus and E. W. Limus the same person? O.oI seem to remember there being a Commander mentioned as well as Captain and Chief, and then you added the Auror Commissioner to the list, which we had missed... Or did I miss something? :/

'''The reason they were in the original order is because that is the order they appear in on the source provided from. That seems that is the order of importance in MACUSA, as that is the order they put them in on their wanted posters. '''

Didn't think about that, I just thought they were added randomly but so that all were listed. :pAlso, how does the order in which the ranks are listed say anything about their importance? I seriously doubt that a Captain of the Aurors outrank a Auror Commissioner. I don't think Rowling or any other person contribruting to her universe would add real-life ranks to the Aurors and then draw straws to decide which rank is the higher-ranking ones. Ninclow (talk) 18:49, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Hmmm.... Odd... I KNOW I saw one of the pages for the "two initials, one surename" Aurors called "commander" of the Aurors, although it's possible that had been mistaken for commander when it really said "comissioner" and that I just remembered "commander" and thought "commissioner" came in addition to and not instead of. If it don't appear anywhere, clearly I was mistaken, and the "Commander of the Aurors" ought to be put up as a candidate for deletion. Also, as already mentioned, I was unaware you sorted them based on the order they appeared in. In that case, you were in the right, and I was in the wrong. Feel free to change it back if you haven't already. :-) Ninclow (talk) 19:18, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Moving timetables
If you have a moment, can you please weigh in on Talk:First_year? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:44, June 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * FYI, all the timetables have been moved. I was going to start at HBP and work backward looking for clues so that all the time tables get some attention in the near-term and in the long-term we should be able to cross-check the info. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:06, June 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * Norbert's hatching date appears to come from Old HP Lexicon PS Calendar. Note however, that HP Lexicon's current Norberta entry places it more generally as circa April 1992. Note also that we don't have it listed consistently on 1992. I'll start a thread at Talk:Norberta as there seems to be enough clues to talk about.


 * Having just worked through the O.W.L. exams for June 1996, where all the days of the week are given in text and none of them align with the real-world calendar, I have even less confidence than before in using the real-world calendar to determine in-universe event dates. I think it would be better to give the day of the week as determined from text, and note in BTS the discrepancies with the real world.


 * Do you have the CoS DVDs? Apparently there is an extra with the "Official Timeline of Hogwarts", which was based on the HP Lexicon's work and might cover this as well (I can't find it on the BluRays). At least it would be a second tier canon source to fall back on if the books are not clear. --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:16, June 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I haven't found it on the CoS DVD menus on Youtube. From Amazon.com I think it was this DVD-ROM feature: "an animated, interactive Hogwarts timeline;" so it might have only been accessible via computer. Old HP Lexicon PS Calendar notes that the events in red are on this DVD timeline so 4 June would be supported but not Norberta's hatching date. Good luck! --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:23, June 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey - I managed to pick up the DVDs for a couple bucks and after much ado to setup my computer with software and plugins from 2002 I got it working! I'm going to try and make a video and post it to youtube for referencing, but for now I can confirm the official timeline has no information from 25 Dec to 4 Jun for PS, so Norberta's hatching is not confirmed. (It also has some clear errors - meeting Hagrid for tea on 7 Sep (Saturday) 1991 (instead of Friday 6 Sep), Myrtle's death in 1942 (instead of 43), etc, probably stemming from it being made before the later books) so we'll need to check all the info before using it. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:12, June 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * FYI, I finally managed to get this recorded and posted here. There are some obvious mistakes that I listed in the description and probably others I missed (like if all the Quidditch dates are on a Saturday). I may try and post the other timelines from CS & GOF, but probably not for a few weeks, so let me know what you think. Cheers --17:03, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

RE OOTP|F Talk
Yeah - I saw that earlier, wasn't sure what to make of it. Generally, nothing that is not vandalism/off-topic should be removed from Talk pages - see Harry Potter Wiki:Talk Page Policy. I'll send him a quick message that it's better to use the actual article, but if he wants to use the talk page to create rough drafts, there is nothing really against that (I think we even intentionally used Talk pages that way when working up to the release of ) Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 20:24, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

RE Congratulations
Hey thanks! Have to get used to my new celebrity ;) The real world has been overly insistent for me as well lately, but I'm encouraged to see someone else has managed to escape its clutches for a bit. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:09, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Order of Merlin

 * Congratulations friend.Invisibility 16:37, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Image uploads
I notice you are generally labeling the images you upload as being public domain, however, this is not generally the case. Just because something is freely available online does not make it PD. Take the image of Luna you uploaded today, which clearly says "© JKR/Pottermore Ltd.™ Warner Bros." on the page I assume you got it from. Mislabeling copyrighted images could certainly have legal implications for the wiki, so if you could use the appropriate licensing templates in the future that would be nice. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 19:50, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery
Hello There!

I'm Leandro, I am from the spanish wiki.

I've seen you are writing about Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery but I see that it takes you a lot of time, and I would like help you.

If you wish you can copy our information about the game and paste it. All our information is written  by me and if you want to ask something about the game I'll answer it very happy!

I hope you have a nice day

LeFences (Leandro) (talk) 22:46, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * I Know! That's why I'm offering my help. I've been playing the game from january and since that moment I've been writting down all the information that I was compiling. To be honest, we always copy and paste all your information because you have a well-orginized wikia and thousands and thousands of articles than us. It the least that we can do for you. I've done the same to the french wikia.
 * LeFences (Leandro) (talk) 22:30, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

Energy
Hi there! Yeah! I later relocated the message; I'm starting to think there's variation of that painting for users... because... I'm honestly not seeing the tree trunk D; when the oranges are absent; I'm seeing a typical cloth drapery (something like this and this) (Khaki/beige-ish color) with white flowers (that can be interpreted as orange blossoms) with their leaves on it; when clicking; a hand will appear and drop the three oranges. If you look closely, they bounced, and the fabric dents. That's not how it will work if they are hitting a more substantial surface (bark or what not.) I don't know if it's because I'm an art student and had to take a semester of still-life painting, but yeah, I never once doubt that particular painting being a regular still-life until reading your comment. But like I said, when I was fortunate to encounter the painting again, I saw the fabric-ish reaction. I'll be sure to observe a few more time, just to make sure I'm not seeing it because I wanted to. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:06, April 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi there, Kate! I want to first start by apologizing for the whole thing. Hear me out; I'm starting to think it's the stress of real life and the accumulation of lack of sleep that have muddled my judgement; while I still primarily see the "cloth" (lol;) in a different lighting (where I play the game on my phone,) I'm starting to see why people can see it as a "tree trunk," just a little. And yes, I realized the only the flowers bounced for me as well after watching the act a few more times afterwards; I'm afraid the first time really was just me seeing things due to tiredness. So sorry about my bad form. =/ I'm not exactly sure what cause me to act somewhat violently? I was even desperate enough to write to both Portkey Games and Jam City... Talk about overreacting lmao. In a sense I am still curious though, but now I kinda feel like I was possessed a day ago; not quite sure what came over to me. Again, I chuck it to RL. Not really an acceptable excuse, but I hope you can accept this olive branch if my words have caused any discomfort. I'm now not obsessed over the wording like I was. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 15:20, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Yr2ch2
Hi there! The chapter name is "Growing and Shrinking." And yes, Minerva did also offer me special lessons, though idk if it's cuz we both happen to choose same actions (don't remember too well.)

Um, you might want to check the editors-only-comments I left for the most recent chapters. Apparently plays will be getting different stuff. I got to sneak in Slytherin Common Room instead, what the quality Dumbledore praised my character is also different. So in the chapters section, probably best to keep it neutral. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * I have to be honest, initially I didn't exactly pay close attention (was too excited to play, so I ended up mostly clicking too quick for actually reading what was said.) I feel completely terrible for not having any recollection about my convo with Ollivander and how I got my wand or even what my wand is. It was after a few plays I adjusted lol.


 * BTW, are you certain there's a choice for people not having to sneaking into the common room from another House? Or is that a reasonable deduction? The description for ch. 2 states "[...] Rowan concocts a plan to sneak into another house's Common Room and fine the Black Quill." And that was after which common room was revealed; I think the objective is to sneak into a common room that's not your own, otherwise, there's probably no point of using those spells since you are free to search your own common room. And obviously somehow someone will find out and the player will be in trouble, etc. urghhhh.
 * -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:24, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi there Kate! I'm enjoying and invested in this game a lot more than I thought I would, and would love to discuss it with other players! Unfortunately, it's actually my finals week(s) and I've been using spare time editing some pages here and playing the game as my break and escape, but it's come to the stage that the time needs to be cut even more. My last day of class is on the 24th, so theoretically, by then I could be back and active. I'm probably really insignificant, but I don't want to give a fellow editor/player the impression that I've lost interest or was just being plain rude for not replying. Looking forward till then! I so want to bash my Prefect due to a scene I got. Never thought a game could get me so angry lol.


 * Meanwhile, something to ponder? I don't know if this is confirmed, but perhaps the "Side Quests" aren't tied to specific chapters? I do think they might have to happen depending on which point the player has gotten on with their main story arc; but for example, for me, when my progress of the story is 3/7 in yr2ch4, I started getting a series of quests under the title "Merula's Revenge:"
 * Talk to Penny
 * Attend to Potions Class
 * Defeat Penny
 * Defeat Merula
 * Between my #3 and #4, even though they were offered pretty much one right after the other, my main story arc became available, so I focused on that first, but didn't realize I was close to the end of the chapter. I completed ch.4 without finishing #4 of the quests; and I was like, dang, did I just bypass a quest? But as I move onto ch. 5, #4 of "Merula's Revenge" was still available for me to finish (which I did.) To sum up, I'm starting to think "Side Quests" perhaps should have its own section, placed after "Chapters" and before "Classes." While as mentioned, I do think they may loosely depend on the progress of "Chapters," but I think in order to focus on the chapter aspect, we've probably been less tentative with the amount of details to the side quests; for example, only 2 are specifically listed, but I'm pretty certain we've gotten more quests at this point. Also the 5th level header "=====" apparently is not directly editable; it's a really minor thing, but still inconvenient to some degree.


 * Sighs; you see what I mean about needing to cut time for my finals? Wrote so much to you without meaning to. Anyways, I started hardcore just screen-shooting everything so I can reference them later. (That's how I was able to provide you the details of the quest above, I don't have inhumanly possible good memory to recite that based on pure recollection, all cuz of screenshots) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:30, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Sup!
Sup? Kate! Hope all is well!

I think when I'm like super stressed, my OCD would kick in, leading me to obsessive over things I should not prioritize when I literally have my finals burning on my backside lmao. Sad but true.

Anyways, even though Harry Potter Wiki:Sandbox encourages people to just edit, (and you have been doing a fabulous job, btw,) personally, I kind of think, with major changes, it's best to still test it out somewhere? Mainly talking about article here. I'm sure you've previewed it before you published those changes, but, when I changed the "Classes" section and added tables instead of leaving them stacked up, it is with the purpose of saving scrolling space, which I'm glad the Russian HPW also took a liking to it and changed theirs as well.

Adding tables for characters though, IDK if it's like this on your screen, but the result on Macs (both on my laptop and my school's semi public desktops,) is that a lot of character names would be split with awkward breaks. It's just unnecessary work for the eyes having to read first and last names on different lines. There's also the problem that there's repetitive descriptions going on when removing the indicators; the reason of having them is an efficient way to not having to display the same message over and over again, similar usage can be seen at LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 (just one example; have seen a few.) The table not only did not make that section shorter, it is also messier to read ATM (alignment is hurting my eyes (yes, the anal graphic designer part of me is annoying.)

You might also want to take a closer look with the description prior to the changes, http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Harry_Potter:_Hogwarts_Mystery?oldid=1133656 cuz '''I think some of them were mislabeled during the process. That, or we are getting different information.''' For example, when was Myron Wagtail "mentioned"? There's no sarcasm in this question, if he is in fact mentioned I'd love to know, because so far I have not gotten it. The only time I've encountered his name, is when it was listed as an option for the question about who led the Frog Choir, which was why I had him with that specific indicator. Whereas for Arsenius Jigger and Gellert Grindelwald, while both of them also appears as options for specific questions (though unlike Wagtail, theirs were correct ones!) they, were mentioned prior to facing those questions as a hint during class (mentioned by Severus and Minerva respectively, I have screenshots if needed proof) which is why I had them on yet another indicator, for they weren't just options, they were also mentioned beforehand (I feel like I'm talking in circles, sorry.)

While we haven't gotten much info on Luisa just yet (meaning it is indeed possible for her to never be mentioned again,) I can at least confirm the description for Billingsley is false, for I've been seeing him mentioned since year 2, and he continues to be mentioned in year 3. https://twitter.com/samantha_kasa/status/998098756791762944

Just to be clear, I am in no way saying "adding table is wrong" or "the old format is right way to go," I'm just wondering about the purpose of using it. If it wasn't to save space, and it ended up adding extra characters (with all the wikitext to build the tables) while looking messy, is it really preferable? I'm also aware that my opinion very much well maybe the minority, which is why I'd like to throw it out there for discussion. Since that particular edit is done by you, I feel like I'd just talk to you first before going to the article's talk page.

And it's 2AM-ish where I live so my brain is sluggish. If I'm coming across as self-centered, sorry about that. Dx Off to bed. May not timely respond due to possible time difference.

-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:24, May 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi there Kate! Urgh, not sure if it's cuz my brain's still a bit slow, but ATM I'm not really understanding:
 * "The idea of the table was to break up the info a bit, and make it possible for people to add more writing on what role the character actually played instead of having *, ** and ^, and repeating info."
 * That's what it was like though? o___O there's no stopping people from adding the extra info; in fact, most of them did have info after the indicators; the indicators themselves are only there to replace the would-be repeated statements, anything else goes after that.


 * For example, WITHOUT the ** indicator, previously the following three would look like:


 * Armando Dippet, the Headmaster prior to Albus Dumbledore (mentioned in a trivia as a hint prior to the multiple choices)
 * Arsenius Jigger, a previous Defence Against the Dark Arts Professor and the author of Magical Drafts and Potions (mentioned in a trivia as a hint prior to the multiple choices)
 * Gellert Grindelwald (mentioned in a trivia as a hint prior to the multiple choices)


 * The bold parts are what they had in common, with the indicator in place, it then looked like:
 * Armando Dippet**, the Headmaster prior to Albus Dumbledore
 * Arsenius Jigger**, a previous Defence Against the Dark Arts Professor and the author of Magical Drafts and Potions
 * Gellert Grindelwald**


 * The 1st text character-count is 381, whereas using the indicators, the 2nd one is reduced to 195. People could still add relative info after those indicators. Gallert Grindelward didn't have any at the time, was purely because people hadn't got to that part (and he wasn't the only one anyways, most of the characters under "Other" didn't have any description, so it really has nothing to do with indicators.)

-Filius Flitwick -Myron Wagtail -Horace Slughorn" I answer: Filius Flitwick."
 * Wagtail is like you said, and like what I stated, "listed as an option for the question about who led the Frog Choir," therefore fitting specifically the old * indicator. It is different from "mentioned," which characters such as Luisa and Wendelin the Weird currently are fitting. Those two were actually mentioned in in-universe conversations; whereas most of the * ones, when not being the correct answer, aren't. It's almost like an OoU situation. Okay, I'm like effing weird, but most of the questions are pretty open; imagine we have to type in the correct answers ourselves, unless the player picked the wrong option, in the scenario when we answer correctly, those filler options might as well not existed. I suck at explaining. For example:
 * "Who is the conductor of the Frog Choir?
 * In-universe, the conversation looks like this:
 * "The person who asks: Who is the conductor of the Frog Choir?
 * The end. Technically, neither Myron Wagtail or Horace Slughorn were "mentioned," their names just happened to be "selectable options" for the player.


 * There's also the fact that some of the characters weren't only featured in one specific question. While Kettleburn's indicator would eventually be taken out (CoMC in year 4!) once he physically appears, and while he is the correct answer to who the CoMC Professor was; his name had been used to confused people for other questions; same for Vector, Sinistra and definitely Trelawney. I still haven't gotten the Divination question where Umbridge apparently was an option; but I have had Trelawney as an option in at least two different questions so far. That's why I phrased "The * indicates the character is mentioned as a selectable answer when the player gets certain multiple choices." It really is just to indicate they've appeared as options, regardless if those options are the correct ones.


 * I feel like in regards to those Q&As, we could relocate and discuss it at Talk:Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery. At the time, I had no idea there's so many of them, which is why what I stated in the Talk page now contradict my current opinion. I think it's easier to just create a separate article to document all the questions.

sibling Khanna Davies Cole Haywood Tonks Weasley Weasley
 * As for the table, I feel like it's a poor choice of wording on my part that made it a bit confusing. Your table itself IS NOT broken. You've built it correctly. (I don't find wikitext daunting; I actually only ever use source mode, because it reduces the chances of moving something one wasn't meant to without realizing.) I'm saying that, the table, because of whatever length restriction for the columns, "forces" certain character's name to be "broken into separate lines." For example, previously:
 * Jacob's sibling, [...]
 * Rowan Khanna, [...]
 * Chester Davies, [...]
 * Angelica Cole, [...]
 * Penny Haywood, [...]
 * Nymphadora Tonks, [...]
 * William Weasley, [...]
 * Charlie Weasley, [...]
 * (just to name a few,) all those name would be displayed in one line, no matter how small the device is one's viewing it with, with whatever description following after. With the table, they can now look like:
 * -Jacob's
 * -Rowan
 * -Chester
 * -Angelica
 * -Penny
 * -Nymphadora
 * -William
 * -Charlie
 * I say "can," cuz now the size of the window and display are factors to the result. With my school lab's desktop that has the monitor being 21.5-inch, even when having the window fullscreen; Penny Haywood, Nymphadora Tonks, William Weasley, and Charlie Weasley STILL have their first and last names broken into separate lines. And I basically NEVER have my browser window taking up the entire space; so you can imagine that I'm seeing a lot of names having first and last names being separate.


 * Hope that made some bizarre sense; boy, that was long! Orz Won't be able to reply soon. But look forward to your response! I really value your thoughts!


 * -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:31, May 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kate!!!! Phew! Semester is finally over! Though I have summer semester as well, at least I will have a tiny bit of breathing space in between. I've posted my reply to you at Talk:Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery to allow potential input from other players, as the Talk page would be easier to follow, should the convo involve more than 2 people. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:42, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

Order of Merlin

 * Hi there Kate! I'm like so so super touched that you remembered my semester ended! My next semester starts at the end of this month (so soon, I know!) But it'll be the last! (I WILL make sure to make it the last! ;]) Really hope Year 4 of HM will be available before the summer semester starts though. xP


 * Knowing that the Q&As for friendship could be useful, somehow I'm less enthusiastic about it, mainly because the hrs for each cycle are lengthy (but tbh idk why that holds any relevance to my opinion about it lol.) I'll still be screenshooting everything, but I guess I'm going to focus on accurately citing things first. I never noticed this before actually actively editing, but some of the existing citations were vague and generic at best. I admit knowing which book the statement was from, is, obviously, better than not knowing at all; but since the reference link templates do allow citations to be more thorough, I have that sort of expectation, so I'll be at least working on articles about subject matter I like or being relatively quicker fixes first.


 * Thank you so much for suggesting the alternative and know it'd then be a way to provide info I find helpful! You are so kind! I will keep that in mind, but since no one other than myself has expressed it, I figured I'll spend my energy and time on something that would be helpful to a wider crowd on the wiki for now. =D -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:15, June 1, 2018 (UTC)

"club activities" in the UK
Hi, Kate! I think from a couple of talk page messages I'm under the impression you are from the UK so are perfect to ask... Can you take a look at Talk:Hogwarts subjects? I just don't know if the UK has the same "Extracurricular activity" definition as the US (and at least also Japan and Taiwan,) or if it's called something else. Would just want to know if in the UK, those things are seen the same as "class subjects;" and if so, should the rest of known Hogwarts clubs be included etc.? Hope to hear from you =D and hope all is well! (feel free to reply on the article Talk page itself if preferred!) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 17:03, October 29, 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh!!! Thanks so much! Your explanation is precisely what I thought, until I stopped to think perhaps there's some cultural differences that I'm simply not aware of (like the usage of "Asian" and "Oriental", as an Asian (US definition) myself, I was super puzzled until I saw this being discussed somewhere.)


 * The problem with renaming "Extra-curricular subjects" to "Extra-curriculars", is that out of the 9 listed, only Frog Choir and Orchestra stood out to me as the "clubs"; the rest, especially Magical Theory (class) and Xylomancy (class) are identified as "classes" due to appearing on schedules. While I can relate Art and Music being types of clubs, the wording on those articles suggested they are "classes" as well, which is why I pitched to just remove Frog Choir and Orchestra on the talk page; after all the article is about "subjects", if they aren't, they shouldn't really be there?


 * That being said, now that I know the UK term is basically the same as I imagined, I'll at least differentiate it at the main Hogwarts article and add the long missing clubs there. Thanks a bunch! =D


 * -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:01, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

RE Minerva
You want the impossible (sorry, wrong fandom ;) I've purposely avoided this issue until I've read through the screenplay (in progress) as there doesn't seem to be much wiggle room given how Umbridge's question, Minerva's reply, and how the timing of is worded. Obviously JKR's word is law, but trying to reconcile the "Thirty-nine years" teaching in 1995 with Minerva being there all the way back to Leta's schooling feels like aiding and abetting a crime against the canon. I hope JKR doesn't just resort to straight up retconning her own writing, but for these dates to makes sense she's got some 'splaining to do. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:16, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

RE Marcus Flint
Hi there - it's nice to see you back again! I had seen that note regarding the revision to Marcus Flint's year, but haven't had the chance to hunt down a newer version of the book to confirm the change. You are right of course, in that the newer info is the new canon; however,it would probably be best to include a note in the ref as well to clarify the differing information in differing version of the book. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:51, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Hogwarts Mystery article handling, opinion needed
Hi there, Kate! I missed talking to you about HM! I know that comparing to when the game was first released, it looks like you were focusing on editing other articles, but I really value your input, so sending you this message that I do to other relatively-constant editors of : If you have time, can you take a look at Talk:Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery, and share your thoughts if you have an opinion on the matter? Much appreciated, even if potential opinions aren't in agreement to the proposal. Thanks! =D -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:47, March 20, 2019 (UTC)