Forum:Treatment for similar images/Archive 2

Hi all! In short, I've been deleting duplicated images on HPW: If it's 100% carbon copies or size-reduced that type of files, there's not much to argue about; however, I find the following two scenarios trickier, and would like the community's input on the matter.

I think the way to go is to follow up by adding your input to whichever sub-discussion you want to comment on, whether you think only one of them should be kept (kindly point out which one), or why both should be kept, or if there's other ways to resolve the issue, then sign your signature. =]

P.S.: I am not all-knowing. What I posted is just what I've personally come across, please feel absolutely free to add images in similar situations if they have not been posted here already, so they can be discussed. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)


 * I'll update votes for items when applicable. Out of the current 61 sections,  the following 2 only need two more votes if they happened to agree with the current votes, so feel free to start viewing those first to get them out of the way: 1 and 2. There's also currently 47 cases in addition to the 60+ as stated above, omitted to reduce TOC height, and can be found under, with its section title being self-explanatory. On top of that, there's close to another 40 (unsorted) cases listed under that section due to the current amount needing to be processed. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:26, February 1, 2019 (UTC)


 * The faster more people vote, the quicker the daunting list below can likely be shortened. The similar GIFs increased to the point there's so much to scroll through, so bear with the edit-by-film-batch instead of edit-by-individual-cases. If it gets back below 20 again perhaps that can be rearranged, but with 60+ ones, it's rather unlikely people would want to reply one-by-one anyways.
 * -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * Due to the mass discovery of GIFs fitting the situation this thread is addressing (as of this edit, there were 85 sections listed), I decided to filter out cases I pretty much have strong opinions of their approach, so that they won't populate the TOC and put people off from even viewing this thread due to the sheer size of it. Please know that this is not dictatorship; I value and respect the community's consent, however, time is Galleons; some of the images are uploaded onto this wiki more than a decade ago, the number is just too large for most people to take notice. With the fact that this thread is nearing a month old and only two additional Users have voiced their opinions (which are very, very, VERY much appreciated, btw), I just don't see the point of dragging it out for democracy most probably don't care for. The cases will be under another section, and will be kept for two weeks; if you have a different opinion, voice it or I'll take the silent as consent and move forward. Also note that NOTHING will be deleted, they will all be merged into one file per case , so the uploading history will still be intact. If an action truly upsets you, you can choose to revert to the revision you prefer, but expect to argue for your case if you hadn't done so during this whole process. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:17, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

GIFs
For .gif files, unlike unmoving images, I think even when they are depicting the same sequence, depending on how they were created, they may not be registered as "obviously" duplicates.

So the below was a batch I dumped in haste yesterday before my laptop could crash and forgot to sign to mark the timestamp. In the editing history, I expressed that "I'll sort [them] tomorrow", at the time, I intended to actually sort them out by films and describe them. As one can see, adding 3 more cases that I didn't include in my last edit, there's a total of 51 cases; and I think that's just again too much for this thread to load smoothly. I'll still "sort out" the ones that I'll include the "expiring soon" batch, and will at least sort out the below in order of general appearance (from what I'm able to remember anyways), so the numbering after said edit will be different since some are relocate accordingly. I hope I'll get to these once the expiring batch is taken care of to free up some space. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:42, February 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * Temporarily unsorted


 * So at the point of the timestamp for this update, there's 40/41 cases below. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 03:23, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Help speed up the process
Was tempted to proceed the following immediately after seeing the new vote, but had to remind myself that this post hasn't actually been posted for a month. I'll wait just a couple of days to hit the 1-month mark. =] -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:10, January 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * Decided to relocate and prioritize sections that have 2 votes for the same item for viewers to see. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 14:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)


 * Majority relocated to the section above.

Fake Moody killing a spider
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 * I thought the 1st one was good until I found the 2nd one, but I suppose some people would want to see fake Moody's face lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the first one, the second one looks a bit like a meme xD And I don't think anyone's gonna forget what Moody looks like any time soon. The first one has a better motion and quality, so. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahhh lol, sorry if the comment seemed confusing, I meant that I can see people wanting to include it was him casting the spell, since the other one only shows the wandpoint. I'm sure dedicated fans would know who was casting regardless though. (I don't prefer the 2nd one lol) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:47, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Arthur Weasley attacked by Nagini

 * a] contains a longer sequence that includes Harry getting the vision.
 * b] has the cut before the strike (without blood)
 * c] has the cut after the strike (with blood).
 * Am wondering if all three are needed. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I would actually vote for c], but I dislike the edited colour. I think I should go with a], it's laggy but it has more in it and it isn't edited. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

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Harry Potter receiving a bunch of Hogwarts acceptance letters
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 * Unsure, 1st one contains a longer sequence and looks clearer, but I can see the 2nd one illustrating the scene of being buried by a bunch of letters better lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * Prefer the 1st one, second one is quite filtered, 1st is more accurate.   CosmicChronos       Talk to me       Contribs    14:35, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry Potter's birthday cake from Rubeus Hagrid

 * 1st one, though wouldn't too mind the 2nd as long as there's only one file lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Potter family photo in Harry Potter's photo album

 * 1st one larger in scale but I think is looped oddly; 2nd one has a longer sequence. Wish there's a compromise version. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione Granger performing Oculus Reparo

 * Editing-wise, c] is probably the best one; wouldn't have minded trying to include Hermione, but I don't think the editing of lip movement in a] is accurate. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * a] is pretty laggy compared to c], I'd go for the latter.   CosmicChronos       Talk to me       Contribs    14:35, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Lumos Solem
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 * 1st one is larger in size but not exactly clearer. 2nd one includes incantation-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:58, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Dobby Disapparating from 4 Privet Drive

 * 1st one is larger in size but the 2nd is clearer. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Weasley Clock

 * 1st one is larger in scale and consequently more visible, but is rather laggy at the beginning. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Gilderoy Lockhart performing Brackium Emendo

 * a] is largest in scale, but b] contains lip movement of the spell being cast, and c] only contains the lip movement; I'm guessing it's best to keep a] & c] and ditch b], unless a better upload replaces any of them -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:49, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Ron and Harry pulling Mandrakes

 * 1st one larger in scale, but I like the second colorization.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:49, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Forbidden Forest Acromantula colony

 * No comment; my Arachnophobia is one of the few things I have in common with Ron. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I am Lord Voldemort

 * a] has the longest sequence and the only one with the complete reveal, though unfortunately containing an editing error where the sequence of the last "o" from "Marvolo" was shown twice. Other than that, I actually thought it was quite good. =/ -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Dobby blasting away Lucius Malfoy
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 * 1st one contains a longer sequence and is larger in scale, but unfortunately also laggier. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Lumos Maxima

 * 1st one larger in scale but laggier. 2nd one has a longer sequence to showcase the effect. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:58, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Sirius Black on Daily Prophet

 * 1st one larger in scale but laggier and weirdly looped.  -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:58, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * If the inclusion of where this scene took place (on the Knight Bus) is important, I found this that's at least better put together then the 1st GIF on this wiki. Personally I actually think it's more distracting to not focus on the newspaper lol, so some input would be nice. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Boggart-Banishing Spell on a Severus Snape Boggart

 * Not sure if I have a preference. c] is largest but transitions less smooth. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Draco Malfoy using the Paper Bird Charm

 * The 2nd one is more clearer but also easier spotted with the altered colorization, however, I also don't remember it supposedly looking this dark as the 1st one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Pretty much decided to replace both after the merge with this unless I find better ones alone the way. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Trio laughing during a Hogsmeade weekend trip

 * a] has the best sequence out of the current 3 but not winning by much and is pretty low quality comparing to the other two. b] & c] have relatively good quality, but I think the cut and loop were compromised it's because of that, and just looked plain awkward. Don't think I have a preference for any of these. I think the scene itself probably could have a good GIF out of it, but just not the 3 above lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * I found 1 to be a more balanced colorization and fuller sequence, but as it played out, the trio didn't look like they were having a blast as they were in those poorly looped ones, which is understandable and truer to the scene anyways lol.
 * Also found 2 to include the sequence just a little before the one above, which was what I gathered and to me makes a lot more sense. It includes Harry coming out of the cloak. Only issue is that you don't see the trio really start laughing.
 * Will keep looking for better options. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Harry approaching Buckbeak

 * 2nd one is watermarked. Also feel like there might be more of those around. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * So the slight distinction is that in the 1st one, while coming close, Harry hasn't actually gotten to touch Buckbeak before the scene was cut and looped. No real solution yet but the 1st one can perhaps at least be replaced with this so it's of higher quality. That's the last resort though, hopefully will be able to find one that contains both sequences. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione and Harry in the Hospital Wing experiencing time-change
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 * Wouldn't be surprised if there's more variants lying around. Unsure which one has a more accurate timing, but the 1st one likely has more authentic colorization. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * Upon closer inspection, while they may have overlapping sequences (sorry, it's just too similar after all lol), they actually include quite different ones as well. The 1st one Harry distinctively looked up and towards the far left (our left, his right); whereas the 2nd one Hermione's left hand also touched the Time-Turner briefly. The lighting while possibly still having been altered, but I forgot it should contain lighting change to begin with. Not solution yet, but I found this that showcases the time changes well, and not just with people around them looking like they were moving really fast, but with the lighting. Have not found ones that are sized similar to the current two though. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
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Leprechaun as Irish National Quidditch team's mascot

 * Unsure which timing is more authentic. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reappearance of the Dark Mark

 * Def. b] over a]; c] contains the conjuration though I feel like it might have been spread up, and it also cut short of the snake-tongue sequence. Wish there's a better version of it to represent this scene as one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Beauxbatons students performing Butterfly-conjuring spell

 * Feel like there might be some more lying around somewhere. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Human to ferret demonstrated

 * b] & c] are both longer in sequence but super laggy. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 09:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione's Yule Ball entrance

 * Not sure if c] is the clear winner atm; I feel like the closeup of this scene was a bit too short in it lol. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Grindylow
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 * Essentially the same, please vote for preferred colorization. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * The first one, the second one's colour is slightly off, it looks edited. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Viktor Krum's partial Human to shark Transfiguration

 * 1st one larger in scale but also super laggier. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Cedric Diggory's murder
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 * I'm so unfamiliar with the film that I have no idea if the 1st one is a montage of sort, but if not, it contains more info, just that the ratio is less ideal. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
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Harry vs Dementor
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 * 1st one has a longer sequence and is seemingly more authentic (cut-wise), but I think people can argue the 2nd one shows the Dementor a bit clearer. Dunno. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the second one, the graphic and quality is smoother. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Don't call me Nymphadora

 * a] actually had an exact dupe that was first taken care of. While b] & c] are clearer and perhaps are efficient for showcasing Tonks' Metamorphmagus ability when angered, the fact that the lip movement is easily understood just made both of them looking oddly cut; c] even had "Nymphadora" subtitled, which is rather distracting and not giving the full picture of the scene so to speak. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 01:23, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Ginevra Weasley casting the Reductor Curse
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 * The 1st looked more natural but less ideal in file aspect ratio, while the 2nd looked more edited (cut-scene and color).
 * I prefer the first, the edit doesn't look as good, to be frank. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione's

 * b] is larger in size, but I feel both of them are somewhat "laggy" if that makes any sense. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:13, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * So I found this and this, neither being close to the film's aspect ratio, but I think comparing to the two we have on HPW, their motion are way more fluid and not looking like they were randomly pausing. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:09, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * c] & d] are of partial scenes. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Luna Lovegood's

 * 1st one contains a longer sequence, which I personally preferred, and is of higher quality, but just want to make sure if people are okay with ridding the 2nd image, seeing they aren't exactly the same. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 07:13, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Ron's
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 * 1st one is larger in scale but to me looks a bit laggy, 2nd one shows a slightly longer sequence. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 11:36, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * The second one lags on my screen, I vote for the first 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sirius falling through the Veil
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 * 1st one contains Harry's reaction (though I'm not familiar with the film adaptations enough to know if the cut scene was true to the film) -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * The cut scene is real, I believe, and I prefer the first one. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
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Ron's first kiss with Lavender Brown
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 * 1st one contains a longer sequence, but seems laggier. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:48, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the second, it's less laggy, and whoever made the first one made it into an endless loop. I'd be fine with it, but it doesn't look good on a kiss. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

First Horcrux creation of Tom Riddle

 * I'm sorry to say I have absolute no recollection of this scene, no preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry high on Felix Felicis during the Funeral of Aragog

 * Another scene I don't really remember. No comment. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Albus Dumbledore generating a Firestorm

 * 1st one is larger in scale but oddly looped. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Severus killing Albus
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 * b] contains a longer sequence than a], though both look heavily edited that I sort of wish something better is lying around. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * c] is a freshly new upload, which I am not amused for it to be happening, just saying. The one good thing that came out of this, is that it confirmed my thoughts that b] is edited in a way that makes little sense, omitted the sequence of Dumbledore actually getting hit by the spell. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:45, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * d] is solely the sequence of Dumbledore falling, which I personally don't see the value. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * So far, none of them are ideal, c] would have had an edge if the spell at least looks greener, missing the lip movement for the incantation, I can't say the GIF clearly showcased the Killing Curse, even though we all know it does. Replacement would be appreciated but please just replace any of them instead of uploading them separately. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:45, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
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Seven Potters changing clothes

 * 2nd one is partial from the 1st one, but I'm guessing it has a truer colorization. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The death of Hedwig

 * And here's proof on how I know my books better than I'll ever be with the adaptations. I was like, wait, so they changed it? Thought she was ironically hit when she was in her cage. Anyhow; 1st one laggy but I supposed you can see Harry's shock clearer. Though since this is second tier canon, I don't think quality matters that much since it's only suitable to be in BTS. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Erecto

 * I have no recollection of this scene so I have no idea which one is more authentic. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I Open at the Close

 * 1st one is larger in scale but unfortunately has a watermark on the top right.-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 21:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hermione vs Antonin Dolohov

 * I am actually unsure; the more I look at it, the more I think those two may be depicting scenes one after the other instead of the same sequence, unless it's heavy editing to make them look less identical, but def. from the same duel. Documenting it in case a compromise is found along the way. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 20:40, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Harry and Hermione Disapparating

 * I wish there's a version that's in between the two, the 1st one is more visible but also looked onerously edited, however, I also don't remember the original scene being this dark as the 2nd one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Harry messing around with fire

 * 1st one is larger in scale, but the 2nd one contains a longer sequence. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:03, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Draco and Narcissa firing spells
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 * No recollection; no real preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Trio escaping via riding the Gringott's Dragon

 * Don't really think I have a preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Ginny looking concerned

 * Let me start by saying I don't understand why this scene needs a GIF. Don't have a preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Kingsley Shacklebolt using Momentum-reversing spell

 * Torn; 1st one contains additional opening sequence that could be a little distracting, but I had to squint very hard to see the 2nd one clearly. The additional sequence can be found at another upload, specifically focused on Arthur. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Shield Charm used during Battle of Hogwarts

 * 1st one briefly includes the casting (which I felt too short); 2nd one has the charm enveloped more. Wish there was a compromise. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:58, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Severus mourning for Lily J. Potter

 * Wouldn't be surprised if there's more variants lying around. No preference. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Disintegration curse

 * TBH, imo both a] & b] are pretty poor quality. =/ Better than nothing though. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:58, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * c] is newly uploaded that only consists of the combustion sequence, which, to me, serves the purpose of? If every sole sequence of death is necessary for extraction, no wonder this wiki has this ridiculous amount of files. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:19, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * The good thing that came out of this upload is that at least I now have a preference between a] & b], a] either lacks a "wholesome Bellatrix", or has sped it up too fast, so b] it is, for now. Though replacements are again very welcomed. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:19, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Neville beheading Nagini

 * Originally it was between a] and c] with a] unfortunately slightly distorted. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:21, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * With b] now found, I'm unsure. It's also distorted, but it contained an additional sequence with Nagini about to strike. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:48, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Malfoy family 19 years later
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 * No preference-- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
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Healing magic performed on Credence Barebone

 * No preference -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Newton Scamander's Boggart

 * 1st one. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 16:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Newt, Leta, and Tina on the rotating shelves in the French Ministry of Magic Records Room
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 * Like the colorization of the 1st file, but prefer the aspect ratio of the 2nd. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * I prefer the second in colourization, if the aspect ratio is better for you, then I guess it fits. I vote for the second. 민태준  -  슈가  ( Inconvenience me here! ) 0.61 Slytherin Crest Transparent.png 20:24, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Gellert Grindelwald casting Protego Diabolica

 * Like the aspect ratio of the 1st file, though tbh, I feel both files are cut rather abruptly. -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 06:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)