Talk:Officer

For some or for all?
I will be the first to admit that I acted a bit immature when I edited the Officer page. It was one of those "in the heat of the moment" kind of things while frustrated, but now that I've thought about it, I can't help but feel that the reasoning for undoing my edit on it was a bit hypocritical. If it is indeed the case that the word Officer applies to only some members of the Magical Law Enforcement Squad and not all because it "it corresponds to what we actually know", then how come I am meeting such opposition when I do exactly the same thing? Why is it that when I present contextual evidence, it is treated like inconclusive conjecture, but when you do it, then it is a-okey? When you say it corresponds to current information that only some are officers and not all - I'm sorry, but I fail to see the rhyme and the reason behind that conclusion. I'm not necessarily looking to make some BIG debate/discussion like I did on that other page, but this is something I need to understand before I can leave it be.

In what way does it correspond? We have one person thus far in the wizarding world of Harry Potter who is referred to as an officer. In most countries, including the United Kingdom, I am fairly certain, the most common usage of the word in relating to law enforcement is that of a generic term for policemen- and women of different ranks. Langarm even uses it in a way that makes it seem like a generic use: "I am a Magical Law Enforcement Officer!". If "Officer" was a title specific to him, a rank that implied some sort of seniority and/or supervisory duties, then why wouldn't he said that he was an "Officer in/of the Magical Law Enforcement Squad!" instead? Isn't it more speculative to assume officer is some sort of rank or title that applies only to some members have, as opposed to the more commonplace use for it unless otherwise is implied wtihin the game itself?

We now know that:
 * Curse-Breakers works for the Ministry of Magic.
 * We know that their livelihood consist of removing dark charms from areas and/or objects.
 * We know there is an office in the Ministry specifically tasked with the very same job.

In what way does these three not correspond?

And how does "officer" and "some but not all" correspon than "all Hit Wizards are officers but not all officers are Hit Wizards?"

We also know that:
 * We know Muggle-baiting is too trivial for Aurors, who fight against Dark Wizards.
 * Cerberus Langarm is trained to fight Dark Wizards, but is not an Auror.
 * But Hit Wizards and Witches also are called upon to fight Dark Wizards.

In what way does these three not correspond?

I did exactly the same as you: I looked at the evidence, and the implications, but instead of intepreting, I simply recorded my findings.

How was what I did any different from how you reached your conclusion about officers? Ninclow (talk) 01:08, February 13, 2018 (UTC)