Talk:Hermione Granger/Archive 3

New article name?
Don;t you think the article name should be changed to "Hermione Weasley" and "Hermione Granger" should redirect to it? Xeoxer 20:34, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks to me that the standard on this wiki is to name the articles of women using the name she is most known by be it her maiden or married name. -Shorty1982 20:44, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

We don't even know whether she's called Hermione Weasley or if she kept her last name like Professor McGonagall did. I'd be careful with that whole "Hermione Weasley" thing. 89.246.183.130 07:53, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not registered yet, but I came over to check her birthdate to win an argument, and I'm skeptical that she would change her name. She's not really the type. Unless there's proof that she did, it's pretty presumptious. This calls into question the kids as well, of course. Weasley, or Granger-Weasley, or Weasley-Granger...does anyone have a source on her name/the kids' names? I'm not here to stir up trouble, it's just that I'm doing a major rewatch/reread as we speak and I just don't see Hermione going full Weasley... 69.112.8.215 05:03, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hermione is based on J.K Rowling, who used her maiden name.Breather (talk) 02:48, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

There has been no explicit indaction that she kept her name. When people marry they automaticly take there husbends name unless they ask to keep it. So the Default name should be hermione weasley.Orangerichard56 (talk) 18:19, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read bullet #2 of our naming policy. -- Cubs Fan (Talk to me)  18:32, October 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * When women marry taking their husband's name is ONE of the options they have.  Women are not 'automatically' bestowed with their husband's name.  As JK Rowling continues to refer to Hermione as 'Hermione Granger' only, in contrast to Ginny who she now refers to as 'Ginny Potter' (in the same source: Daily Prophet report on Pottermore 8/7/14), it follows that Harry Potter wiki should also continue to refer to her as 'Hermione Granger' at all times -- not just in the page title.  The only reason for changing her name to 'Weasley (nee Granger)' would be if a canon source explicitly refered to her as that.  This has never happened.
 * SN: Let's all accept canon as Hermione is clearly a massive feminist (as asserted by JK Rowling)
 * Thanks FlooSky (talk) 19:52, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * When women marry men they do not automatically take their husband's name, Orangerichard56. I have changed Hermione's name in the opening paragraph from Hermione Jean Weasley, nee Granger, to Hermione Jean Granger, due to the new canonical evidence from the Pottermore Rita Skeeter article that she kept her name after she married (Hermione and Luna are still referred to as Hermione Granger and Luna Lovegood after marriage, while Ginny is referred to as Ginny Potter).
 * However, I do not know how to change the caption underneath the picture. Please could someone with the skills to do this do it, as it is obviously correct? Thank you. Rosie Sourbut (talk) 18:35, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * However, I do not know how to change the caption underneath the picture. Please could someone with the skills to do this do it, as it is obviously correct? Thank you. Rosie Sourbut (talk) 18:35, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Dramione
I have a suggestion for the Relationships:Draco Malfoy Category.

In a recent interview, J.K. Rowling said that Draco had strong positive feelings for Hermoine, and would always have "lingering" feelings. However, due to his upbringing, he was unable to act on those feelings, and instead made fun of her, gaining some attention that way.

However, for some reason I am unable to post this information, there being no "edit" button available, as I am a new user, and was hoping that someone else could, along with finding out which interview it was.

Thanks!!!!

02:25, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Mrs. di Angelo


 * Firstly, the article is protected so if you haven't had an account for a while you can't directly edit it, you may only suggests edits here until you've been around long enough. Secondly, I have never ever heard of JK Rowling once (across all HP related media) suggest that sort of relationship between Hermione and Draco. Of course, if you have a reference for this purported interview then I'd be all too happy to look over it and&mdash;if she did indeed confirm your statement&mdash;add the info but otherwise its just unfounded fanon that should not be added&mdash;Green Zubat (owl me!). 02:40, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I have even double checked courtesy of accio-quote.org (which is a highly comprehensive and reliable source for all things JK, detailing almost every public, HP related comment she has ever made), which has returned no such confirmation of this rumoured interview. Its almost definitely fanon&mdash;Green Zubat (owl me!). 02:44, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't find any references to an actual interview in which JKR revealed Draco had feelings for Hermione. Google results suggest it's an unfounded rumour started by Draco/Hermione shippers on Tumblr.


 * If it's a recent interview, though, Accio Quote! wouldn't be the place to look for it, because that site hasn't been updated much since 2007 (probably because JKR has been out of the public eye since the release of DH). ★ S t a r s t u f f (Owl me!) 02:56, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Personally, that sounds like the most ridiculous rumor I've ever heard. Shippers can be really stupid sometimes. -HoboHunter28- (Leave me an owl!) 03:15, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox image vote
Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images

Follow the link. Nominations are still open. Voting starts in 3 days. - Nick O'Demus 14:49, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Owl's
I was reading the article and i noticed that it says Hermione recieved ten Owl's. In the book it says she recieved eleven. Ten were outstanding and one was Excedes Expectations. I thought you might want to change that.

Thank you for pointing that out. I just fixed it. Mllehermione 19:58, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

New Image from Deathly Hallows: Part 2
I'd like to suggest a new image for Hermione's infobox. It has always been the policy of the wiki to have the most recent image of the character (if possible), and this image portrays Hermione in the final film. Tell me what you think! :)

JSquish 23:03, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think if we're going to follow the policy of the wiki to use the most recent image of the character, then we might as well use the Prologue picture becaues it is the most recent. —  Firefox1095 — 23:25, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Someone altered Hermione's relatives as the Malfoy family - that Draco is her husband, Scorpius is her son, and Lucius and Narcissa are her inlaws

108.68.101.175 05:01, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reverted it several times. If they do it again, I'll block them. -- Cubs Fan <font face="Gisha" color="white">(Talk to me)  05:07, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Muggle Sister
The citation for Rowling's original plan for Hermione to have a Muggle sister doesn't seem to be posting correctly. If anyone knows how to fix it I've located the interview that states, specifically, that she was to be a Muggle.

http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2004/0804-ebf.htm

76.29.255.159 14:13, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Accio Quote is working again? Interesting, it had been down for quite a while. In any case, there was talk about creating our own interview archiving here on the wiki because of the problem with the outage and other such issues. Dunno what the status of it is, though... ProfessorTofty 16:51, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup
Her page is in some need of some serious clean up. There's much image clutter, it's even causing images to overlap some words. — JuniperAlien ( talk ) 21:15, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Maiden name
The cretin, and it's the mildest term that comes to mind, with the following IP address - 67.142.170.25 - keeps trying to repost a transposition of the two surnames, along with other idiocies. Can someone please take steps? Jiskran (talk) 16:33, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

In the book it says she received 10 outstanding OWLS and one exceeds expectations, yet you have a total of 10 OWLS listed. What is missing?72.84.220.25 04:00, February 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * This was an error in some editions of the book. In later editions, it was corrected to 9 O's and 1 E (10 total). - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 12:18, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Rose isn't in profile
I believe that Hermione had a child named Rose.
 * Are you reading an old revision of the page, or what? On the current (as I type) version, Hermione's daughter Rose is listed as such in both the infobox and the main page. — RobertATfm (talk) 01:21, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Additional Pet?
I noticed that in the Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets movie that while Professor Minerva McGonagall was telling the students about the Chamber of Secrets, Hermione had a pet chameleon that she was going to turn into a goblet. Is this another pet of hers just for this one movie or is it throughout all the movies because I only saw it in the Chamber of Secrets?

KyranEllis (talk) 21:34, March 23, 2013 (UTC)KyranEllisKyranEllis (talk) 21:34, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * It was probably just a school-provided animal, rather than a pet. Hogwarts has a number of animals for such use, such as the mice that McGonagall had them practice on for Vanishment. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:41, March 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is probably one they use only for that one scene. Also, the books have higher canon than the movies, and this scene is not in the books. It is a variation on the scene with Professor Binns. Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:37, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Birthday
I just wanna ask where did you guys get her birthday? I think it doesn't make sense that she was born nearly one year older than the others.1.233.241.162 17:37, April 7, 2013 (UTC)Hue


 * The source for the day and month is given on the page, click on the little [1] beside the birthday in the infobox. As for the year, if she'd been born a year before what we have she'd be too young for Hogwarts, a year older and too old to go in the time frame that she did. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 20:02, April 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * You seem to be labouring under a common misconception regarding Hogwarts' entrance policy. As Hunnie Bunn points out, students are admitted to Hogwarts in the year in which they are 11 on 1 September, not necesarily in the year of their 11th birthday. This mistake is made by at least one timeline. — RobertATfm (talk) 22:01, April 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * No, they're correct. Hermoine missed the 1990 school start year by 20 days; the "born after September 1st" bit (as she was born on 19th September 1979) just pushed her into Harry and Ron's year - it means that she is 11 for the first 18 days of Philosopher's Stone, then turns 12 for the rest of the book. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:14, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Acutally, although the books mention that she was born in September 1979, they never mention what the specific date is. And we don't know where the MuggleNet archive gets its information from. For all we know, somebody could have just put it there. If somebody has more information regarding the "19th" part, please comment here. Thanks, Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:40, July 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * But she was still 13 at the end of the thrid book, like really the end,it was in one of the last chapters. Chapter 20 or 21 I think, she was said to be 13 and that was after Septemeber if she was 13 then, she would have been born in 1980 instead. W O L  F  B  L  A  Z <span style="font-family:Gungsuh;text-shadow: 3px 2px 4px;color:white;font-size:15px;" title="JonTron!" >E       22:05, October 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * This discussion took place over a year ago, and Hermione's birthdate is 1979. I don't recall it saying that Hermione was still 13 at the end of the third book, only the third film. And the sixth and seventh books, and part one of the seventh film confirm that Hermione is 10 months older than Harry, so she would be 14 by this time. If it says anywhere that Hermione was still 13, then it would have been an error. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:13, October 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * Does that mean I'm not meant to edit this..? If so, then sorry! And I read all seven, I don't remember is saying that she was ten months older then Harry, and I just re-read the third book, it was in the book too. Agian, if I am not alllowed to edit this, then sorry and I'll stop. W O L  F  B  L  A  Z <span style="font-family:Gungsuh;text-shadow: 3px 2px 4px;color:white;font-size:15px;" title="JonTron!" >E       14:13, October 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * You're free to edit this; C.Syde65 has only pointed out that this discussion is old and has, for lack of a better term, grown stale. J.K. Rowling has addressed this already, ages ago, via her (now defunct) website: "She was nearly twelve; you must be at least eleven to attend Hogwarts". It's solid canon fact that Hermione was born in 1979. -- <font style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> owl post! 18:47, October 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah. Some sites have a rule that says after a year you can't edit it. So I guess in the third book it was an error. Do you think  that link should be added for the ref on the page?   W O L F  B  L  A  Z <span style="font-family:Gungsuh;text-shadow: 3px 2px 4px;color:white;font-size:15px;" title="JonTron!" >E       01:47, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

How tall is Hermione ?
Hermione Granger is listed as being 5'11" tall. Really?? IMDB lists Emma Watson as 5'5".

71.164.109.62 04:06, April 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Watson's height doesn't matter, necessarily, because if it says somewhere in canon that Hermione is 5'11" tall, then she is. But that's a good question, though, what is the source on the 5'11" figure? Does anyone know where that comes from? ProfessorTofty (talk) 05:39, April 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know about the 5'11" number, but her Ministry File from the Harry Potter Limited Edition says 5'5", so I'll change it and add the reference. - <font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus 07:14, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Scar?
In the "Physical appearance" section, it's stated that Hermione has a scar "which ran as a thin line across her torso" due to Antonin Dolohov's curse at the Department of Mysteries. I've never heard of this scar and this statement is not referenced. Is there any truth to it? 152.78.164.213 19:32, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

New info box image.
I do not really like the current info box image and am wondering what people think about this alternative:

Please let me know whether you prefer this new image, or the old one.

Pettigrew&#39;s Finger (talk) 19:17, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Mione
I added the nickname Mione. Is that ok? And is it correct?

(Lucyhalelove)

I know of no instances where she is called that, so I removed it. If someone can point to one though then you have my apologies.Westinf (talk) 08:41, October 16, 2014 (UTC)westinf

Wand?
Where does it say what her wand core is made of? Jcubshor (talk) 22:25, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Wand?
Where does it say what the length of her wand is? (Im just curious.) Dr. Galenos (talk) 17:36, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

wandless magic
From "Magical abilities and skills"

Wandless magic: Hermione was known to have practiced wandless magic in her years at Hogwarts. She did not need the air of a wand or magical instrument for a wide variety of spells.[9]

IThe source is given as HBP, but are aware of any time she used wandless magic in the norvel? I think it was only in the films, which would still be canon. Could it be possible that someone confused wandless and nonverbal magic?--Rodolphus (talk) 22:27, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

No, it was only in the movies. And the canon-ess of that is debateable, as (I think) it states that she used a wand for that magic. (Confunding whatshisname...) Dr. Galenos (talk) 01:46, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

There is before she started Hogwarts: "I've only tried a few simple spells myself..." --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 14:17, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Maiden name
Emma Watson said via Twitter (https://twitter.com/EmWatson/status/381382469679079424) that she thinks Hermione would have kept her maiden name. We've got no confirmation from Rowling on the subject either way (that I know of, might have missed it). Is Emma's word valid here? We're just assuming that Hermione took Ron's surname when she got married because that's what most witches in the series have done. Past performance is no guarantee of future results, and in my opinion if any woman in the series was to keep her maiden name it would be Hermione. Improbableone (talk) 00:09, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

I do agree that Hermione would be the most likely to keep her maiden name, but I dont think that the actor/actress who portrays a character counts as a cannon source here. Dr. Galenos (talk) 00:27, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Whilst I don't think it has any canonical weight, should this be noted in the "Behind the scenes" section? Skteosk (talk) 17:55, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Actually now in the Quiditch World Cup, we have proof that she kept her maiden name. Rita Skeeter refers to her as "Hermione Granger", while she refers to Ginny as "Ginny Potter". Here's the link [] and the article is "Rita Skeeter 1.31"

Skyquill4605 (talk) 18:44, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Marital status
On the page it says that Hermione was married as of 2017, but the birth of her first child Rose Weasley was 2006. I do believe that Ron and Hermione got married before having their first and second child.
 * Just for the avoidance of doubt (I'm finding it slightly hard to believe this is even necessary, but you know the Internet…), what that means is that when we last see her (in the Epilogue in 2017) she is married: it says absolutely nothing about how long she has been married. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 09:21, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Surname
I'd like to request that the next time anyone add "Hermione Weasley (nee Granger)" to please add a source. The epilogue doesn't call her "Hermione Weasley", and nor does Rowling's site. It's perfectly legal to keep one's maiden name after marriage and there's no indication Hermione didn't do so; to the contrary, there is a source already listed for her being "Hermione Granger" even after marriage. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:15, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

As JK Rowling continues to name her as Hermione Granger (in contrast with Ginny who is always now called 'Ginny Potter'), I think it important that the site reflect Rowling's use (as in the latest Daily Prophet report on Pottermore 8/7/14) as canon. The Harry Potter wiki should ONLY refer to her as Hermione Granger as that is the only name ever used in canon sources. Women do not automatically have their named changed upon marriage, as Hunnie Bunn has pointed out, and many choose not to. I think we can accept that Hermione would be a woman to keep her own name. FlooSky (talk) 19:41, July 8, 2014 (UTC) FS


 * Well, I agree for the most part. Luna, Fleur and Hermione have their maiden names in the article, possibly suggesting they did not change their last names, while it's now canon that Ginny did change hers (Hannah Abbott perhaps did too, since her last name isn't mentioned). On the other hand, Ginny's a reporter and Rita Skeeter may be familiar with her having changed her name because it appears in the paper, while she might refer to Hermione, Fleur and Luna as Granger, Delacour and Lovegood respectively because those are the names she knows them by. I'm not sure however, what is the reason it was changed back to Weasley née Granger in the article? Chanpuruuu (talk) 18:25, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

To my "perfect" Hermione?
I'm not sure I'd agree with J.K.Rowling's opinion on Emma Watson being a "perfect" Hermione Granger. In the first two films she did a perfect, or at least an excellent job. In the third film she still looks like Hermione, but her choice of clothing isn't very "Hermione" like when you compare it with what she is said to wear in the books. It wouldn't be too bad if Emma hadn't suddenly become not very Hermione like in terms of her acting. By the fourth film Emma seems to have lost her Hermione touch both visually and personality wise. In the fifth film her hair gets lighter and by the seventh and eighth films she has little else to recommend her acting of Hermione besides her intelligence and knowledge. Yes it is J.K. Rowling's opinion and not mine that matters, I know, but I'm sure that there are other people who would agree with what I've said, infact I have seen similar comments made by others on different sites.  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:40, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Mugglenet birthday archive
I would like to point out that the footnote "Mugglenet birthday archive" is no longer valid, so are all the birthday archives. <font face="Fantasy"><font size="6" color="00BFFF">AB Ng  <font face="French Script MT"><font size="4" color="Medium Purple">Talk  07:54, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hermione Weasley?
I noticed that in her profile book it says Hermione Jean Weasley (nee Granger). However, the books never state that she took Ron's name. And, on Pottermore, when she was mentioned in the Daily Prophet, after marriage, she was still always reffered to as Hermione Granger. Also, she seems like the type of person who would be proud to keep her Muggle name. Thanks you, Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:34, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * We assume women take the husband's name after marriage. We do not have evidence that Hermione did not take Ron's name after her marriage. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="00BFFF">AB Ng    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="3" color="#9400D3">Talk   04:27, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, we do. By 2014-07-08, Ron and Hermione are married, but Hermione is still referred to as "Granger", unlike Ginevra Potter who isn't "Weasley" anymore. Luna Scamander (talk) 08:25, July 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * When a woman marries, we assume she takes her husband's name. There is no evidence that Hermione did not take Ron's name after marriage. Even though at Pottermore, her surname is Granger, a woman can use her maiden name or married name after marriage. E.G.: J.K. Rowling, Rowling is her maiden name, but at some circumses, she uses Joanne Murray, which is her married name. And Harry's mother, Lily, she took James' name and the name shown one the grave is Lily Potter but Snape refered her as Lily Evans. The same for Ginny, she took Harry's name, but we can also refer her as Ginny Weasley. We cannot rule out that Hermione did not take the Weasley name just because Rita uses the Granger name. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="00BFFF">AB Ng    <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="3" color="#9400D3">Talk   10:27, July 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * By that logic, you might want to change the lede in Minerva McGonagall to "Madam Professor Minerva Urquart (née McGonagall)". I do agree with assuming she took her husband's name, as long as there isn't evidence to the contrary (e.g. Fleur Weasley, Nymphadora Lupin), but in this case there is evidence to the contrary. It's perfectly legal for a woman to keep her maiden name. Lily and Ginny are referred to as Evans and Weasley when talking about periods of their life in which they were called that, and it's possible that Snape generally called Lily "Evans" more often because he knew her (almost) exclusively under that name and probably didn't like to remind himself that she married James Potter. Luna Scamander (talk) 10:35, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Might I also point out that actor's comments have been taken as canon before, and Emma Watson says Hermione kept her maiden name ... once in a Twitter comment and once in an interview with J. K. Rowling, in which she was not contradicted. This, in addition to the Pottermore information, should override any "We should assume because there's [not enough] evidence" objections being brought up. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 12:05, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * This fits Hermione's character, as she eventually becomes proud to be muggleborn. Goofyd00d (talk) 17:35, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Recent Change
I wanted to describe my change in more detail. I removed "She was one of only two to master the Shield Charm in the DA, along with Neville."

This is a misinterpretation. OotP is simply praising Neville's progress. Its states that he masters it so quickly that he was second only to Hermione. This means that he basically mastered it first, as Hermione mastered everything first. This is not intended to mean that only those two mastered the charm. Further proof can be found in HBP, where while touring Weasley's Wizard Wheezes Fred and George mention that a surprising number of people can't cast a shield charm, since they didn't have Harry teaching them. This infers that F&G also mastered it at least, especially since they made a product that utilizes the charm.

Goofyd00d (talk) 21:14, November 25, 2014 (UTC)