Category talk:Candidates for renaming

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File:Muggle Lady Employee of Subirton.JPG
The name of the diner has been identified as Treats, and the article about her is currently named Waitress at Treats, so why not go with that? - Nick O'Demus 10:09, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Flying Ford Anglia
I suggest renaming this article "Ford Anglia 7990 TD". Apart from being its actual registration name, as confirmed in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film), it makes the article look neater and more professional, as it is opposed to the quasi-speculative and descriptive current name. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:43, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure that this article will be found with the new name? "Flying Ford Anglia" everyone knows, but a name with number? When you will use the new name then there should be a redirect to the old name, otherwise no one is able to find it. Harry granger 21:04, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

A "quasi-speculative" name? If that isn't trying to sound stuck-up, I don't know what is. Sorry, but this is a Wiki on Harry Potter - articles are allowed to not have a scientific or professional name if it helps people find them, and the name of the vehicle page is absolutely fine as it is. 91.125.159.6 22:05, July 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * So sorry to disagree with you, but this wiki has always chosen the most encyclopedic way to present facts and, yes, that includes calling things by their proper names, when backed-up by solid canonical fact. That's the reason why the article on Ron Weasley is called Ronald Weasley and the article on Ginny is called Ginevra Weasley. The only reason there are articles with conjectural titles is that there are characters/objects that are sometimes not named, and as this is not the case, I don't know why we should keep this title that, in-universely, would be deemed descriptive and unfounded. (A side note: name-calling, unlike my "stuck-upness", will not help you make a point). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:36, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

The film is not entirely canonical; the books always come first, but since there is no information is given on the registration of the car is given in the book, the movie is the only source that can be taken as canon in this particular case. People will find it easier to search flying Ford Anglia, most people would type; 'Flying Car', 'Ford Anglia' or 'Flying Ford Anglia', not 'Ford Anglia 7990 TD'; so there would have to be a redirection anyway. The title 'Ford Anglia' is too general, so 'Flying Ford Anglia' is the next most logical, as I don't think there are any other flying Ford Anglias.So, I think the title should stay the same.


 * According to our canon definition the car's registration name as seen in the film is a valid canon information, so why not to take it into account? You said it yourself, and very correctly, that "the movie is the only source that can be taken as canon in this particular case". Of course, people searching for 'Flying Ford Anglia' would be redirected to 'Ford Anglia 7990 TD'; pretty much like searching for Hogwarts Express food trolley redirects you to Honeydukes Express. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 15:17, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

But does this wiki choose "the most encyclopedic way" over "the most user-friendly way?" The purpose of this wiki is to easily help fans find information they need. People will always search "Flying Ford Anglia" before they search "Ford Anglia 7990 TD," perhaps because the fact the car flies is more distinguishable than its license number. Also, I argue that it's not a simpler, cleaner, neater title. "Flying Ford Anglia" are three simple, easily pronounceable words, not "Ford Anglia" and then a bundle of numbers that had absolutely no plot significance. Harrypotterfan7 03:51, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

People will still be able to find the article via a redirect, so there's no actual harm in renaming it. As for whether or not it should be renamed, well, my opinion is that we should call it by its most canonical name; if its called "flying ford anglia" in the books, then keep it. If not, use the registration number. We could even include its nickname in the description i.e. the article could go something like "the Ford Anglia 7990 TD (a.k.a. the Flying Ford Anglia) was..." &mdash;Green Zubat (owl me!). 04:34, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with the rename, but maybe you can rename it to " Flying Ford Anglia 7990 TD"
 * --12:08, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

We should keep it as flying ford anglia. Because it'll be harder for people to find if we change the name to something like that.

Halloween
I think it would be nice if we changed it to "Hallowe'en" due to the fact that is what the event is referred to in the British books. Seeing as this wikia strives for constant British spelling in its pages, why can't the names of them strive for that too? RandomYoshi 16:48, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're right, I shall rename it right away. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:28, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

1 January
I think it would be nice if the page in question could be renamed to "1st of January", as it is would be even closer to British, nowhere close to American. If this change would end up being accepted, can ALL dates change from "Day Month" to "Day(st, nd, rd, th) of Month"? RandomYoshi 09:59, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Category:Users who support the Durmstrang Institute
Why should there be the word "the" in the title? In the category of Beauxbatons there is none. I think because of the consistency it would be better to rename to: Category:Users who support Durmstrang Institute. 19:33, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Burrow - Duelling Arena
Why should we rename The Burrow - Duelling Arena to Duelling Arena (The Burrow). It is only known as what it is called now. So why???? 94.191.186.160 10:18, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I disagree with the renaming as well. "The Burrow - Duelling Arena" is the actual name that it's given to that area in-game and we have, in the past, kept names as they were written regardless of awkwardness (i.e. Warning! Keep Out! Dangerous Creatures Inside!, Keep Out! or No entry due to flooding - Mr. Filch), or misspelling (i.e. Defence Against the Dark Art's Store Room, or Tatoo Artist). This would be simply another of those cases. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:49, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Absolutely right - if we have a name that has been given in canon, then we should stick with it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:20, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Totally right - the user who put in the Rename template is called GhostUser, he joined last year at the 2nd of April, he only made 498 edits, he hasn't made any quality-updates to his own page, and he probably did it only to do it and make fun, like A cool troll did with another page. --78.156.209.213 19:58, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please, there's no need for that. We can discuss whether or not the change is reasonable without attacking the proposer GhostUser has made nearly 500 edits and hasn't received any warnings on his talk page. He is a legitimate user and I believe his suggestion was made in good faith. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:51, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seriously guys, if I wanted to troll, I would've renamed the page without putting on the template. I don't really mind if the name is kept or not. GhostUser (talk) 23:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Fountain (The Fountain of Fair Fortune)
I suggest that Fountain (The Fountain of Fair Fortune) is renamed Fountain of Fair Fortune (The Fountain of Fair Fortune). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that it's not only the story but the fountain itself that is called so. 94.191.187.26 19:35, July 17, 2012 (UTC)