I will always get grossed out by reading about Voldemort and Bellatrix doing it and gosh google said they were emotionally connected but it was a love potion. And again you wouldn’t throw your love
I will always get grossed out by reading about Voldemort and Bellatrix doing it and gosh google said they were emotionally connected but it was a love potion. And again you wouldn’t throw your love
I already explained the characters acting different as a result of changing time. If you're talking about OOC moments before time was changed and after time was fixed, it's been 19 years after Deathly Hallows. People change over time. And there was EXTREMELY stressful events going on and that had been going on for quite a while now, and people tend to act different during such times. This isn't a plot-hole.
Obviously Cedric WOULD become a Death Eater under the right circumstances. You thinking he wouldn't isn't a plot-hole, it's showing that your personal opinion is wrong.
Time Turners don't age a person when in use. If a person STAYED in that time, then they would age normally, so if they had stayed in the past up to the present, then they would have aged. But they used it, went to the past, then returned to the future. Time went forward and back, not them. But even if that was the case, it was heavily implied, if not outright stated, that this wasn't a normal/properly made Time Turner. So that's not a plot-hole.
Albus and Scorpius knew where it was, so the Fidelius Charm didn't work. It only works if the person doesn't know where it is or if the Secret Keeper tells them. Not a plot-hole.
No, the story isn't a plot-hole. But even if it was, most, if not all stories have at least one plot-hole or two, and they're overlooked by audiences because it's accepted that sometimes stories make mistakes.
The time turner page states:
It is unknown what the effect of excessive Time-Turner use might produce. The user might still age while within an hour produced by the Time-Turner, and if so, then for wizards or witches such as Hermione, constant use might age them faster, adding days, weeks, or even months onto their internal chronological clock. It is also unknown how this applies to later on in life. If Hermione was perhaps a month older by using the Time-Turner during her third year[11], then biologically her seventeenth birthday might arrive a month earlier than her calendar birthdate might indicate, which might cause the Trace to have been lifted earlier as well.
Man it`s hard arguing with you. Most of the
internet seems to agree with me that CC is a plothole ridden story.
Cedric became a death eater due to humiliation, which is like the last reason he would become
one
Also Harry would never insult McGonagall the
way he did or threaten her. And Ron was just a
dumbass in this story
And no Albus and Scorpius shouldn't know where the house is. Peter was the secret keeper and he never told them the location.
Cuz petah is a dead boiiiiiii >:)
All that says is the excessive use of a Time Turner has unknown affects. All it says is a bunch of "mights" in hypothetical situations. And excessive use means repeatedly using it, Al and Scorpius only used it a few times, even if they were big leaps in time. So all of this is just hypothetical speculation, not a plot-hole. And again, this was not a normal Time Turner, so you can't compare it to what other Time Turners do and them call it a plot-hole. The story is straight up showing you that any consequences that MIGHT hypothetically happen with other Time Turners clearly do not with this specially custom made one, so it's a moot point. This isn't a plot hole.
You're formulating your own opinion on about Cedric as to why he would never become a Death Eater and claiming that he would never become one for the reason he did. That's your personal opinion and personal interpretation of him. Yet the story and Rowling since she confirmed that the story is canon, is telling you otherwise. So however you personally feel about it, you're being told that your opinion is wrong.
Harry insulting McGonagall is clearly not something he would never do. People say things they don't mean in the heat of the moment or when they're emotional all the time. In fact, Harry has said hurtful and insulting things on several occasions to people he cares about and respects. Did you forget how he spoke to Dumbledore after Sirius died, or how he spoke to Ron in GoF? And Harry's son was in trouble, that will cause people to act OOC and not be in the right state of mind. Also, it's been awhile since I read the book, so I could be wrong about this, but didn't that insult take place after time was changed? Even if it wasn't again, people say things they don't mean when they're upset or emotional or stressed, etc all the time.
I wouldn't call Ron dumb@$$, but maybe a little more air-headed, but then, he always was a bit. He just seemed more laid back and mellowed out than he was in books 1-7. But years running a joke shop would probably do that to you.
If Al or Scorpius were taken there in their timeline or were told about it after the charm was lifted, then the charm wouldn't take affect. It more that stands to reason that the charm would be lifted by the time CC takes place, and that Harry would have taken his family there. So AL would know about it. So if Al tells Scorpius where it is while the charm is not in affect, then Scorpius would know where it is. THEN if they go to the past when the charm is in affect, it wouldn't affect him because he already knows about it. If Al DIDN'T tell Scorpius about it before they went to then past, THEN Scorpius wouldn't have been able to see it unless the Secret Keeper told him. But since Scorpius could see it, then he obviously knew about it already because he was told at some point before they went to the past. The fact that he could see it is the story telling you that this is what happened.
And just to be clear, I'm not trying to defend CC. You're well within your right to hate the story if you want, I'm not saying you're wrong if you do. But something that you simply don't like or think shouldn't have happened isn't a plot-hole. So far, you haven't provided anything that can't be logically explained in some way or something that isn't based solely on opinion or interpretation that the story is telling you is wrong. Case and point, you claiming Cedric would never become a Death Eater after being humiliated or Harry would never insult McGonagall. That's not a fact, that's an opinion you formed, and the story is telling you that your opinion is wrong. That isn't a plot-hole. Give me a legit plot-hole that can't be logically explained and I'll acknowledge it.
Okay, maybe cedric would become a death eater in a special circumstance, but not for the dumb reasons in CC. He became a death eater only due to being humiliated and made fun of. That's plainly silly and not the cedric we know.
Also you saying that cedric can clearly be a death eater because he's written like that is an incorrect argument. I'm saying it's a plothole due to it not being consistent with the previous books. You can't just say it's not a plothole just because suddenly cedric was written different in CC. That's whay makes it a plothole. Maybe you don't know what a plothole is. If it was written in CC that Cedric is actually greedy and only cares about victory, would you say it's not a plothole just because it's written like that? NO. It's a plothole due to not making sense at all.
Also your explanation for Scorpius and Albus seeing the house make no sense. They travelled in past, to a point where the house is under the charm and only Peter can reveal the location. So no they shouldn't be able to see it. That is a plothole. Plain and simple.
Sure, characters can act different, but not the way they do in cursed child. That's not just my opinion. The CC is a very hated thing for this reason.
Another plot hole is that Harry shouldn't feel his scar hurt and hear Voldemort's voice. Voldemort is forever dead and Harry's horcrux is destroyed. That was lazy writting disregarding the prrvious end of DH, where everything was ended and wrapped up as being good.
Also how did Albus and Scorpius suddenly get polyjuice potion. It takes months to brew. We can assume they stole it and it's not shown, but then again that's loor writing by Thorne, JK and Tiffany.
It depends how much ridicule he faced afterwards. Being teased and mocked can cause people to do... bad things. If eternal glory comes to the winner of the Tri-Wizard Cup, then being mocked for losing out on that to a 4th Year is going to negatively impact you. He could become resentful towards Harry as a result. Who knows, maybe he had plans for post-school education, but was now rejected for losing to a 4th year when he was a 7th. It doesn't exactly look good on a resume. That could affect job opportunities he was hoping to get. Even if it didn't, if he's pretty much eternally branded as the 7th year who missed out on eternal glory because he lost to a 14 year old. Yeah, that's going to cause some pretty big resentment, and who knows where that path might lead. So yes, even if it may seem unlikely, it's plausible that this led to him taking a dark path, becoming angry and vengeful towards the world that mocked him and made him seek to gain power and respect elsewhere, even with the Death Eaters. You're looking at Cedric as we knew him in Book 4, but people change over time, and living with that humiliation and ridicule could have twisted Cedric into something bad. So no matter how you feel about it, the book is telling you that Cedric ended up this way, meaning it's not only possible, it's what happened, regardless of how you or even I feel about it (for the record, I didn't like it either). It's not a plot hole. You may think it's outlandish, but there is nothing to say this can't happen. A plot-hole is something that couldn't happen because something was established. For example, a muggle getting their hands on a wand and using magic. THAT would be a plot-hole, because it's already been established that muggles can't use magic, wand or no. Cedric ending up a Death Eater because you feel it's out of character for him or because you think the reason he became one is ridiculous is not a plot-hole. It's a poorly written plot element, but not a plot-hole.
Yes, it does make sense. Al and Scorpius know where it is in their timeline. Going to the past when the charm is in place won't suddenly make them not know where it is. If they didn't know where it was when they went to the past, THEN they wouldn't have been able to see it without Wormtail telling them.
Again, there are multiple explanations for this, from situations causing people to act OOC to the meddling with time causing them to act different. You're free to hate CC for this, I'm not arguing that (again, I didn't like it either), but characters being OOC is NOT a plot-hole.
I will grant you some leeway on Harry feeling his scar hurt. But that's not so much a plot-hole as it is new lore being added. It may be lazy writing, I'll grant you that as well, but it's still not a plot-hole. This simply tells us that because time is being meddled with to make it so Voldemort survived that Harry was sensing it through time. Yes, in the main timeline Voldemort is dead, but because he was being resurrected/saved in the past, that was altering the future, which is why Harry sensed it with his scar. Again, this is not a plot-hole, because the story is telling us that this is what's possible. It's merely establishing something new to how Harry's connection to Voldemort works, not contradicting something that was established in the previous books. Yes, for all intents and purposes Harry shouldn't be able to sense anything with Voldemort since the piece of Voldemort's soul that was inside him is gone, but because the past was being changed, the future was too, and that is what Harry was sensing, because Voldemort was coming back, and in order to come back, the piece of his soul that was in Harry was coming back as well, which is why his scar hurt and he heard Voldemort's voice. Again, I'll grant you that it's lazy writing, but since the book is establishing that this is what's possible, and it isn't contradicted by anything in Books 1-7 because this was something new, that is what prevents it from being a plot-hole.
You answered your own question about the Polyjuice Potion. If it takes a month to brew, then they must have gotten/stolen it from somewhere. Even if it wasn't shown, then the only logical explanation is that they got it from somewhere. Had the book said they made it themselves in less than a month, THEN it would have been a plot-hole. That or a different/faster way to brew it was discovered in the near two decades since Book 7, and as Book 6 revealed with the Half-Blood Prince's methods, there are faster and better ways to brew the same potion. But for sake of argument, the more likely explanation is that they simply stole it. Again, not a plot-hole. Even if it seems unlikely, the fact that it happened is the story telling us that it's not only not impossible, but it's what happened.
Not gonna lie, fair arguments. Although i still can't see the characters act so different, but if you say that by definition ooc is not a plothole, so be it.
Again, I'm not saying you're not justified in your dislike. There were several liberties CC took that I wasn't fond of either, but characters acting different from how we think they would act aren't plot-holes, nor are events happening that are unlikely but still possible given an in-universe explanation, and so far, that's what all these things have been. You can despise what was done, that's fair, but they're not plot-holes.
What do you think?