Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (film)

Fantastic Beasts should have been a great success, but I think it failed to learn the lesson that the Harry Potter series should have taught Warner Bros. about JKRs stories

The stories behind JKRs characters are very complex and detailed, with story arcs that stretch across much more than you'll ever cover in a movie. The full story needed to be written down, or at least broken down into book size chunks and THEN edited down to movie length.

By having JKR as the only person who knew the full story, the movie makers had to trust she was making the best edited version of her story- which I don't think she did effectively. JK held on to too many story elements and scenes that should never have made it to the big screen.

The Audiobook to Movie length comparison shows us that you need about 12 Hours of reading to make a good 2.5 hour film adaption, and then you also need a great film editor to work out how that story is best interpreted for film.

Hi! I am Warriors, or Warrior Catz but you can also call me Luna!

My house: Slytherin

Patronus: Dun Stallion

Wand: Blackthorn wood with a dragon core 13 ¼ and unyielding flexibility

Favorite characters: Hermione Granger, Luna Lovegood, Ginny Weasley, Remus Lupin, Sirius Black and Draco Malfoy! (Etc.)

Least favorite: Bellatrix and Umbridge and Voldemort 🤮🤮🤮

Character I am most like: Hermione Granger

Favorite class: Potions (Horace Slughorn)

Favorite book: (On Order of Phoenix, already watched the movies, super excited for Cursed Child!)

Favorite movie: Um.. hard one... but Prisoner of Azkaban and Goblet of Fire!

Fun Facts: I also love Warrior Cats and Fantastic Beasts!

So im doing a fb marathon today since i havent seen them yet.

Check in one!

Starting my hp marathon but i decided to do the fantastic beasts movies since i havent seen them yet

Im starting Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them right now! I have extra-buttery popcorn, chocolate chex, dutch butter cookies and strawberry milk :)

Current time: 9:42 A.M.

Will add more check ins as time progresses :)

It’s confirmed… Any ideas what the plots will be?

Personally idc about what's going on with Dumbledore and grindelwald and their drama. i just wanted FB to be a series with NEWT as a protagonist and only his story along with his friends and creatures( especially his creatures and tina).

I didn't liked SOD at all because they were totally out of what i expected and wanted. COG was okay but WTFT was still the best. They shouldn't have cancelled the 4th movies. instead should have made it newt's story without dumbledore/ grindelwald crap. and lacking of tina (one of the lead protagonist) was really disappointing.

P.S this fan made photo looks funny!

1. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2

2. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1

3. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phenoix

4. Fantastic Beasts and The Secrets of Dumbeldore

5. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

6. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

7. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

Did Credence ever find out that Graves was actually Grindelwald?

These are some headcanons I have about Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, in no particular order:

• Mary Lou knew that Credence was magic, but only because she thought his mother was Irma Dugard - a half-elf, half-witch would certainly be "wicked" and "unnatural" in her book.

• Leta used to hold her breath under water for as long as she could.

• The only people Credence ever truly cared for were Modesty, Nagini, and Aberforth.

• In present-day, Credence isn't very well-known, because most people don't know that Credence Barebone and Aurelius Dumbledore are one and the same.

• Credence, due to being the one to most often care for Modesty, is surprisingly good with children.

• Credence's aunt on the ship who drowned trying to save Corvus was actually his mother; she only said she was his aunt because she wasn't about to announce that she was the unwed mother of the child she had with her.

• Chastity was a Squib whose magical parents abandoned her in a No-Maj orphanage after they realized she didn’t have magic, only for her to be adopted shortly afterwards by Mary Lou Barebone.

• Aberforth holds a grudge against Ilvermorny School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, and against the entire Magical Congress of the United States, because Ilvermorny never detected Credence, and because of how badly MACUSA handled Credence’s case, even in present-day, nearly a hundred years later.

• Leta's father purposely sent his son to Mary Lou, figuring that Yusuf Kama would never suspect that young Corvus was in the care of a magic-hater, and that he would come retrieve him once it was save. Only, when he came to get his son back, Credence was there instead.

It had just been a toy. She'd just wanted to look at it. Then she would give it back and Ma would never know and everything would go on as normal.

Now Ma was dead, and Chastity too, flung against the wall with bone-shattering force, limbs askew on the ground. The building was destroyed, the roof falling in, the walls crumbling. Modesty alone had survived, and Credence-

Modesty ran through the night, feet pounding against the pavement, running down streets and alleys with no other thought than to get away, to find the only place she'd ever been safe.

Credence was evil magic, just like Ma had always said. The terrifying dark cloud of destruction had come from him.

It had just been a toy.

She'd seen one of the children who came to get food playing with it, a girl around Modesty's age. Ma made sure to check all the children who came for witch's marks or other signs of witchcraft, so the girl hadn't been playing with it in the hall; she'd been outside in a nearby alley.

Modesty both liked and disliked when the other children came. She liked it, because it was the only time she got to see other children her own age. And she didn't like it, because as Ma's ward, she was different from them, more fortunate than they were, having to rely on others for food. She wasn't one of them. They envied her.

So Modesty rarely, if ever, got to speak with them. But she'd stood and watched this girl play with the wand. She'd been muttering nonsense words and waving the stick around.

And nothing happened.

It didn't look evil or wicked. It just looked like a toy. Like Modesty's dolls.

So she'd asked if she could borrow it, and the girl had agreed, but only if she gave it back the next day. So Modesty took the wand and brought it home and, once in her bedroom, waved it around and made up her own nonsense words. It hadn't felt wicked. It just looked like a stick.

She'd hidden it under her bed, to discreetly return it to the girl she'd borrowed it from the next day. But then Credence had found it.

She'd been terrified he would tell Ma. She'd begged him to put it back, saying that it was just a toy. If it was just a toy she wouldn't be punished too much for it, would she?

Credence always looked out for Modesty, and listened to her. The two of them were much closer than they were to Chastity. But that meant nothing when it came to Ma. They were always supposed to listen to her first.

Then Ma had seen, and Credence had lied to her. They were forbidden to lie, but he'd said the wand was his, to protect Modesty, even though it wasn't. Ma had taken his belt. Then Modesty had said that it was really hers, because she didn't want Credence to get punished, even though she really didn't want to be punished instead. Credence always got beaten. He shouldn't have to be beaten for something he hadn't done.

Then everything had exploded.

Ma was dead. Chastity was dead. Their home was in ruins. Credence was dark evil magic. And it was all Modesty's fault.

If she hadn't brought home the wand in the first place, none of this would have happened.

Modesty sobbed as she ran, more terrified than she'd ever been. She had to get as far away as possible, before the dark Credence magic found her.

It had just been a toy.

I haven’t actually watched any of the Fantastic Beasts movies. I’ve only read the screenplays. I’m making this post in the hopes of getting something cleared up for me.

In The Crimes of Grindelwald, at some point it mentions that it’s been about six months since Paris. (I think.) Eulalies tells Jacob that “just over a year ago” he became acquainted with the magical world. So, the first and third movies would be about a year apart.

Yet the wiki says it’s been five years, and it’s 1932. That wasn’t mentioned anywhere in the screenplay. Did the movie mention this?

Five years, to me, just seems too long. Credence never had doubts about Grindelwald in all that time? Queenie was in Nurmengard for all that time? Jacob went home and moped for five years until Eulalie found him?

Six months between Paris and Bhutan would make more sense to me. This would also account for Theseus losing control when faced with Grindelwald and his followers - he’s the head Auror, he’s trained for situations like this, but if it’s only been a few months since Leta’s death it would make sense, rather than the pain still being so sharp and raw five years later.

So I guess I’m asking where exactly it’s specified that it’s 1932, or if I’m free to headcanon that it’s only been six months?

This is the first chapter of a fanfiction I wrote (also on AO3). I haven't written the rest yet.

As an aside, for the purposes of this fanfiction there's only about a year in between the first and third Fantastic Beasts movies.

Questions and suggestions welcome!

The Obscurial was a problem.

He'd joined Grindelwald, yes, but not because he believed that wizards should rule over the world. Not because he believed that those of nonmagical blood were lesser. Not because he wanted to fight for a better world, a world where wizards ruled. Not for any of the reasons that his acolytes followed him. No, he'd only wanted to find out who he was.

Now that he did know who he was - or his real name, at least - his loyalty was wavering. His Legilimens had told him so; he regularly asked her to check up on his followers, but especially him. Her own loyalty was always suspect, of course, but all he had to do was drop a few remarks about how wizards and Muggles could live together in peace once he'd succeeded and about how no man, not even a Muggle, under his protection would come to any harm, and she was his again. But for the Obscurial, it wasn't that simple. Especially as he realized the consequences of his decision, as he saw what he was being asked - ordered - to do, what they were all training for. Foolish boy, war is war. Anything is necessary for the greater good.

Grindelwald wasn't about to just let him leave. He had put in immense time and effort to find the Obscurial, and it had been nearly as hard to get him to join his side.

He couldn't force him to stay. He was incredibly skilled, but the boy was an Obscurial - if he so chose, he could bring Nurmengard Castle tumbling down. He couldn't imprison him - his magic was the most powerful, destructive thing on earth. Above all, he could not risk the Obscurial turning against him.

The Obscurial was, however, emotionally vulnerable, and so far Grindelwald had used that in his favor. Deep inside, the boy wanted an authority figure to care about him, whom he could take orders from and trust unconditionally.

But if that stopped working? There was another way to get him to obey, a way that would ensure his loyalty without resorting to magical force. All because of the boy's foolish emotional sentimentality. But then, that was why he'd joined in the first place, so Grindelwald was grateful that the powerful Obscurial was so emotionally weak.

There was one person that Grindelwald knew that the Obscurial cared for. He'd even faced his worst fear, the thing he most dreaded, for her. The evidence from New York was more than enough, and his Legilimens had mentioned that he still thought of her.

If the Muggle girl Modesty Barebone was in danger, the Obscurial would do anything.

Modesty was specified as eight years old, and Credence was in his twenties, but Chastity's age was never given. How old did she seem to you?