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Hi there, I'm going to deactivate this account for a reason and will be inactive from fandom for a while, and I guess I'll probably close this account permanently so I wanted to know, will that be okay if I use the account @Charlotte Maebelle to continue from later on?
I found it rather creepy, but I can understand how people may classify it as emotional. I think this was one of the worst additions in the movies because the entire scene is placed in context which makes it seem that Snape never got over Lily's rejection of him and placing the scene right after his Patronus and Dumbledore's "After all this time?" makes the entire context based around a drive that is solely motivated around unrequited love. There's nothing more after it, the "Always" line is now completely distorted by the movies and it's the last note Snape leaves the cinematic scene on. Movie Snape will never equate to the complexity of Book Snape, and one of the most insulting things for a person to say that people like Snape only because of Alan's portrayal.
Harry told him to leave. So, he did.
Why are you still here?” Harry asked Ron.
“Search me,” said Ron.
“Go home then,” said Harry.
And later
“My parents are dead!” Harry bellowed.
“And mine could be going the same way!” yelled Ron.
“Then GO!” roared Harry. “Go back to them, pretend you’ve got over your spattergroit and Mummy’ll be able to feed you up and —”
He was physically very weak. Hermione's wrong side along apparition injured his arm. He had lost a ton of blood. So his physical condition was worse than Harry and Hermione's.
He was the only one who had a family at that point. And all of them were in danger. He didn't even know they were alive or dead. Hermione's parents were in Australia. Harry's parents were dead. While Ron was sick worried about his family.
And of course the locket affected him pretty badly. I think even worse than it affected Harry and Hermione because he had low self esteem. Not to mention during their argument Harry asked him to leave twice and mocked him for being worried about his family.
Everyone also seem to forget that he said he regretted the moment he disapparated and wanted to come back. But a group of snatchers caught him and when he decieved them and went back to them they weren't there.
Then he did everything to make up for it. He saved Harry's life. He destroyed the horcrux. He also saved Hermione at the Malfoy Manor. He earned his forgiveness.
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I mean the people who's excuse for calling him a 'good person' is that he was in love with Harry's mother, not realising that it was obsession, and mindless defending him because of one 'good' thingI'm sure they're mostly movie-watchers as I haven't met a book-reader anywhere yet who has completed the series multiple times and still said something like that, they at least agree on that he wasn't a good person.
Yes, Snape can be... funny, put loosely, but he was not a good person. He was complex, real, interesting, but not good in the way most people think of the word.I agree, and not all think of it in the good way as people who likes his character because of his flaws and vile attitude would definitely say otherwise, and despite some, most book-readers at least doesn't think it in the good way.
On a scale he was just is between. He's a grey characterI wouldn't disagree on that, but I do think dark grey is a better way to describe his character.
How long did that take you-Nearly about half an hour-
I just love his character development and flaws, I think he deserves to be called heroic after saving Harry's life multiple times.I do like it too, and I would still call him a flawed anti-hero altogether.
By Snape fans, you mean the ones who has only watched the movies or still defend him after reading the books by calling him a "tragic" or a "redeemable" person perhaps? Because I'm sure that this post is indicated for mostly those kind of people, as from my experience, after having debates with multiple people outside this wiki, I'm sure there are a lot other people who are supposedly Snape "fans", but don't call him "overall a good person who has redeemed himself" or "the bravest person" or whatever, they just enjoy his, uh, infuriating character? Well except one or two, I haven't met more people like that yet on this wiki, because most 'Snape lovers' are tend to be like the ones who uh, are entitled to that he truly redeems himself in the end, but I couldn't care less about what they think as I'm not one of them, and I hate Snape, although in villain terms I do agree that he was written very well.
He was indeed written as a red herring and painted to be the bad guy through Harry's eyes to finally be central to a big plot twist in an unoriginal way.
There is, however, something I would add about Snape: he could never be the character he is if, anyhow, he was a "redeemable" person, like James. There is something about him as a character, like "there is something about this guy we don't know yet" from the beginning. It's no wonder this is a character people have been talking about for years.
While his story isn't narratively that original, his layers of nuances are really interesting. He was simultaneously a bully and really horrible as an adult, and a Death Eater and yet because of his selfishness and obsession after Lily died, that's only when he became one of the main reason for Voldemort's defeat, and if Lily never died, he would likely continued to be a Death Eater, and that's really a complex part of his character, which I find quite interesting, instead of someone like James who, like any redeemable person, was "bad in his teenage years and later grew up and became good" because that's totally isn't something really complex and kind of boring.
Contrary to most flat characters that exists only to be plot twists, re-reading Snape's book appearances and knowing his complicated story doesn't strip him of anything that's morally good, on the contrary, it add layers upon layers and more complexity to his character, to me that's why he can't ever be "redeemable" which would be some kind of an uninteresting plot-twist. I don't like him at all, and I do consider myself a Snape hater, but I just don't like it when one of those Snape fans say how he "ultimately redeemed himself" because that does nothing but completely ruin his entire character, as I do like his, um, iniquitous character.