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Charlus Potter's son was the son and only child of Charlus Potter and Dorea Potter.^[1] He was a pure-blood wizard, and a first cousin of Walburga, Alphard and Cygnus Black.^[1]

Behind the scenes

It was once speculated that James Potter was in fact Charlus Potter's son. However, the actual names of James's parents, Fleamont and Euphemia Potter, were revealed via Pottermore.^[2] In spite of this, it is still more than likely that Charlus might be a cousin of James Potter and his descendants.
Ironically, although it was not James, this man was related to many of those close to Harry Potter, for instance, being a first cousin once removed of Sirius and Regulus Black and Bellatrix, Andromeda and Narcissa Black, and so a cousin of Nymphadora and Ted Lupin and Draco and Scorpius Malfoy respectively, a second cousin of Arthur Weasley, possibly a second cousin of Bartemius Crouch Snr^[3] and his son, and a possible distant relative of Neville Longbottom.^[4]
If Harry really didn't have any living relatives other than the Dursleys by 1981, it can be assumed that Charlus, Dorea and their son were all dead by that date.
This individual was not featured on the Potter family tree on Pottermore.

Appearances

J. K. Rowling's official site

Notes and references

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Black family tree (see this image)
↑ Writing by J. K. Rowling: "The Potter Family" at Pottermore
↑ He may be Caspar Crouch's son, though this is unconfirmed
↑ He may be a descendant of Callidora Black and Harfang Longbottom, though this is unconfirmed

[BFT-1] 1.0 ^1.1 Black family tree (see this image)

[PotterFamilyPottermore-2] Writing by J. K. Rowling: "The Potter Family" at Pottermore

[3] He may be Caspar Crouch's son, though this is unconfirmed

[4] He may be a descendant of Callidora Black and Harfang Longbottom, though this is unconfirmed

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-{{Wizard individual infobox
+{{Individual infobox
-|name=Charlus Potter's son
+|name = Charlus Potter's son
-|born=[[1977]] or earlier
+|born = Before [[1977]]
+|died = before [[31 October]] [[1981]]
-|blood=[[Pure-blood]]
-|species=[[Human]]
+|blood = [[Pure-blood]]
+|species = [[Human]]
-|gender=Male
+|gender = Male
-|family=*[[Charlus Potter]] (father)
+|family = *[[Charlus Potter]] (father)
 *[[Dorea Black]] (mother) †
 *[[Pollux Black]] (maternal uncle) †
 *[[Cassiopeia Black]] (aunt) †
 *[[Marius Black]] (maternal uncle) †
-*[[Phineas Nigellus Black]] (maternal great-grandfather) †
-*[[Ursula Flint]] (maternal great-grandmother)
 *[[Cygnus Black II]] (maternal grandfather) †
 *[[Violetta Bulstrode]] (maternal grandmother)
-*[[Cygnus Black III]] (cousin) †
-*[[Walburga Black]] (cousin) †
-*[[Alphard Black]] (cousin) †
-*[[Arthur Weasley]] (second cousin)
 *[[Ignotus Peverell]] (paternal ancestor)
 *[[Potter family]]
 *[[House of Black|Black family]]
+|loyalty = *[[Potter family]]
-|hidem=y
-|loyalty=*[[Potter family]] (possibly)
 *[[House of Black|Black family]]
+|theme = wizard
+|hidem = y
 }}
-'''Charlus Potter's son''' is the son and only child of [[Charlus Potter]] and [[Dorea Black|Dorea Potter]] who was also a [[pure-blood]] wizard<ref name="BFT">[[House of Black|Black family tree]]</ref>.
+'''Charlus Potter's son''' was the son and only child of [[Charlus Potter]] and [[Dorea Black|Dorea Potter]].<ref name="BFT">[[House of Black|Black family tree]] {{see image|File:JKRBlackFamilyTree.jpg}}</ref> He was a pure-blood wizard, and a first cousin of [[Walburga Black|Walburga]], [[Alphard Black|Alphard]] and [[Cygnus Black III|Cygnus Black]].<ref name="BFT"/>
 ==Behind the scenes==
+*It was once speculated that [[James Potter I|James Potter]] was in fact Charlus Potter's son. However, the actual names of James's parents, [[Fleamont Potter|Fleamont]] and [[Euphemia Potter]], were revealed via {{PM}}.<ref name="PotterFamilyPottermore">{{PM|the-potter-family}}</ref> In spite of this, it is still more than likely that Charlus might be a cousin of James Potter and his descendants.
-*It has been speculated that [[James Potter I|James Potter]] is Charlus Potter's son. [[J. K. Rowling]] has commented that James's parents were older when they had him; because of this, and because of his family's wealth and lack of other children, he was quite spoiled.<ref>[http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript Leaky Cauldron: 30 July 2007 Webchat with J.K. Rowling]</ref> Dorea would have been forty years old in [[1960s|1960]],<ref name="BFT" /> when James was born, which fits in with Rowling's comments. However, Rowling also said that James's parents died of natural causes when they were elderly,<ref>[http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm 16 July 2005 Leaky Cauldron and MuggleNet Interview]</ref> but Dorea Potter was only fifty-seven years old when she died.<ref name="BFT" /> This could simply be a mathematical error, as Rowling has also admitted that maths is not her strong suit<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20110623035348/http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/de/faq_view.cfm?id=63 F.A.Q.] at [[J.K.Rowling Official Site|J.K. Rowling's Official Site]]</ref> and [[Dating conventions#Contradictions|inconsistencies]] have been noted in the timeline. Also, many other members of the [[House of Black]] are shown to have died at relatively young ages for wizards,<ref>No individual whose dates of birth and death are shown on the [[House of Black|Black family tree]] lived past the age of ninety. Most of them died between the ages of fifty and eighty.</ref> and James Potter's parents must have died between [[1975]] and [[1981]]<ref>[[Harry Potter]] was sent to live with the [[Dursley family]] after he was orphaned because he had no other living relatives. [[Sirius Black]] was taken in by the Potters after he ran away from [[12 Grimmauld Place|home]] at the age of sixteen, in [[1975]] or [[1976]]. Thus, James Potter's parents must have died somewhere between these times.</ref>. On the other hand, given the high degree of inbreeding in the Black family, "natural causes" could include related genetic defects, which would fit with the fact that many Black members died relatively young.
+*Ironically, although it was not James, this man was related to many of those close to [[Harry Potter]], for instance, being a first cousin once removed of [[Sirius Black|Sirius and]] [[Regulus Black]] and [[Bellatrix Lestrange|Bellatrix]], [[Andromeda Tonks|Andromeda]] and [[Narcissa Malfoy|Narcissa Black]], and so a cousin of [[Nymphadora Tonks|Nymphadora and]] [[Edward Lupin|Ted Lupin]] and [[Draco Malfoy|Draco and]] [[Scorpius Malfoy]] respectively, a second cousin of [[Arthur Weasley]], possibly a second cousin of [[Bartemius Crouch Senior|Bartemius Crouch Snr]]<ref>He may be [[Caspar Crouch's son]], though this is unconfirmed</ref> and [[Bartemius Crouch Junior|his son]], and a possible distant relative of [[Neville Longbottom]].<ref>He may be a descendant of [[Callidora Black]] and [[Harfang Longbottom]], though this is unconfirmed</ref>
-*When he was going to [[Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry]] for his first year, James Potter stated that his [[James Potter's father|father]] was in [[Gryffindor]] but made no mention of his [[James Potter's mother|mother]],<ref name="DH33">''[[Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows]]'', Ch. 33</ref> which would make sense if his mother was Dorea Black, who was in [[Slytherin]] house<ref name="slytherin">In Chapter 4 of ''Half-Blood Prince'', [[Horace Slughorn]] states: "The whole Black family had been in my house, but Sirius ended up in Gryffindor!" This implies that all Blacks except Sirius were Sorted into [[Slytherin]] while Slughorn was Head of House. Dorea, born in 1920, presumably attended Hogwarts c. 1931 or 1932 to 1938 or 1939, and thus would most likely have been a student of Slughorn, who was stated to have begun teaching at Hogwarts around the same time as [[Albus Dumbledore]] in Chapter 5 of ''Half-Blood Prince'', in [[1930s|1938]] or earlier.</ref> However, James also had a disdainful attitude toward Slytherin house.<ref name="DH33" /> It is equally possible that Charlus Potter's (and Dorea Potter's) son is simply a relative of James Potter.
+*If Harry really didn't have any living relatives other than the [[Dursley family|Dursleys]] by [[1981]], it can be assumed that Charlus, Dorea and their son were all dead by that date.
-*If James Potter was indeed Charlus Potter's son, then [[Harry Potter]] (the son of James Potter and [[Lily Evans|Lily Potter]]) would be related to many of those close to him. Harry's [[Sirius Black|godfather]] would be his second cousin, his [[Ronald Weasley|friend]] and [[Ginevra Weasley|wife]] would be his third cousins, and his [[Ted Lupin|godson]] would be his second cousin, twice removed. Harry would also be a cousin of [[Bellatrix Lestrange]], [[Narcissa Malfoy]], [[Draco Malfoy]], [[Andromeda Tonks]], [[Nymphadora Tonks]], [[Arthur Weasley]], and [[Regulus Black]], and a descendant of [[Phineas Nigellus Black]].<ref name="BFT">[[House of Black|Black family tree]]</ref>
+*This individual was not featured on the Potter family tree on Pottermore.
-*It is also possible that Charlus Potter's son is [[James Potter's father]], making James Potter Charlus' and Dorea's grandson.
-*However, in the ''Philosopher's Stone'', it is mentioned that [[Harry Potter]] has no living family other than the Dursleys, so it is more likely that this Potter may simply be a cousin or other distant relative of [[James Potter I|James Potter]] who died before 1981.
 ==Appearances==
+*{{JKRS}}
-*''[[J.K.Rowling Official Site]]''
 ==Notes and references==
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+[[fr:Fils de Charlus Potter]]
+[[pl:Syn Charlusa Pottera]]
 [[Category:British individuals|Potter]]
+[[Category:House of Black descendants]]
 [[Category:Males|Potter]]
 [[Category:Only children|Potter]]
+[[Category:Peverell family descendants]]
+[[Category:Potter family]]
 [[Category:Pure-bloods|Potter]]
 [[Category:Unnamed members of the House of Black]]
-[[Category:Wizards|Potter]]
+[[Category:Wizards]]
-[[Category:Potter family]]