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Okay, so yeah, if you haven't seen or read Cursed Child yet, then it's probably best to stop reading. But for those that have, I'm sure you know that one of the most important things in the story is alternate timelines. So, I wanted to get people's opinions on how to handle this. For example, I've just added to Albus Potter's infobox that he was in Gryffindor in an alternate timeline. I think that's fair. But should we go so far as adding him in the "Gryffindors" category? And that's just one example. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:27, July 31, 2016 (UTC)


I don't think so. I don't think we even need it put in the infobox. It's strange to say he is in two houses. The alternate timelines weren't real. The real Albus was a Slytherin and should only be considered as one. Should we decide to put him in both, it means we have to change more things other than his page. Maybe we should leave stating Albus was in Gryffindor in the alternate timeline and only put a mention of it in the biography. -- Kates39 (talk) 18:37, July 31 2016 (UTC)
This is going to be a challenge. If you take a look at 1994 and subsequent years you can see an attempt to layout these differing timelines (I think the idea has merit but still needs some work). I'm ok with some alternate details and such in the infoboxes as the uses would be limited (Albus's in Gryffindor, Scorpius AKA Scorpion King, Draco Head of Magical Law Enforcement, maybe a couple others - those scenes are pretty short), but some others (alternate spouses & kids, dates of deaths, etc) is going to make for some pretty conflicting info side-by-side with the main timeline details. It may be best to confine this info to an alternate time-lines section of the biography as they are ephemeral facts that are ultimately undone. --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:05, July 31, 2016 (UTC)
For me, I strongly believe that the alterante timeline information can not be anywhere except in their own section of their respective articles; I personally don't think that we should be having information from the alternate timelines in infoboxes and so on - that information should reside in an 'Alternate timelines' section of the article - almost like another much smaller biography.
Thanks all -   ArrestoMomentum | talk  19:59, July 31, 2016 (UTC) 
And should we start putting alternate timeline things in the infoboxes, we would have to put two different dates of death for Cedric - 1995 and after 1998. And a date of death for Harry. It starts to get complicated. I think alternate timeline things should only be put in the biography under an Alternate Timeline section like ArrestoMomentum suggested. They didn't actually happen. -- Kates39 (talk) 18:37, July 31 2016 (UTC)
That works by me. What about lists? Should Snape end up in the Dementor's Kiss list of victims with an (alternate timeline) comment? It's going to be an event in his alternate timeline biography so...? (McGonagall was right - awful things have happened when wizards have meddled with time). --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:31, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

In trying to reformat work done on the timelines (see 2020s) a couple questions have arisen):

  • In the second revised timeline (Happy Voldemort Day) Scorpius, Hermione, Ron, and Albus go back to prevent Cedric from losing the first task, they return to a time that appears to be the same as they left (Hermione is a traitor, Umbridge is in charge and suspecting Scorpius's behavior, etc). Should this also be called the 2nd Revised Timeline, or the 3rd Revised Timeline as there was a difference (Cedric succeeded at 1st task, may be other differences)?
  • Is the Fourth Revised timeline different from the Original timeline in that there is a message on Harry's baby blanket now that would have been visible when the love potion first spills, or was the message there in the original timeline and they just didn't see it? Are there other differences that distinguish the Fourth and First timelines or not?

Ideas on how best to handle these issues are appreciated! --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:00, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

I really miss the PoA rules too! ;) They were much simpler and easy to understand! I have a feeling maybe the play’s time-travelling wasn’t very well thought through! I had forgot about the blanket message.
I have gone through the play again and have come up with something to try and figure out this alternate timelines problem:
Original Timeline
Albus goes to Hogwarts and is placed in Slytherin. Hermione becomes Minister for Magic. Harry finds a time-turner. Amos visits. Albus and Scorpius go back in time and meddle with the first task
Second Timeline
They return to a changed future. Albus is in Gryffindor. Hermione and Ron never marry. Cedric still died though. The kids decide to go back to the second task and try to meddle again to save Cedric in the hope it will put things right (why they don’t go and stop themselves intervening in the first task since it’s the only way to put things right again, I don’t know!)
Third Timeline
It works, only Scorpius is the only one who returns to a very changed future.
Scorpius receives the help of Snape, Ron and Hermione. They return to the first task to start putting time right again, stopping his other self from intervening by using a shield charm.
This is where it starts to get even more complicated.
Snape, Ron, Hermione and Scorpius return to the future. Dementors go after them. Ron and Hermione sacrifice themselves to the Dementors so Snape and Scorpius may get away.
Now is this in the same timeline as the third one, or is it a new fourth timeline since Cedric’s part in the first task was never meddled with anymore?
Snape and Scorpius return to Hogwarts where Snape kills Umbridge (LOL) and the Dementors attack again. Snape sacrifices himself to give Scorpius space to go back in time again. He stops himself intervening in the second task and time is put right again.
Then it keeps getting complicated.
The play goes back to the original timeline. Or did it? Since when Harry gave the blanket to Albus before anyone meddled with time, there is no message on it. When Delphi goes back in time and Albus and Scorpius make the message, does this happen in the original timeline or is it a fourth/fifth timeline with only one minor change?
And to make you ponder something else – in the original timeline, when James and Lily died, were Harry and Albus watching then or did it only change when they went back in time in a fourth/fifth timeline? Which came first? (It’s like the chicken or the egg question!) -- Kates39 (talk) 22:35, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
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