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# <s>I support this nomination. Newt has always been a great moderator, willing to help out all the time, shutting things down when they need to be, and taking care of things in a friendly, yet official way. I think Newt would be an excellent administrator, and he would use his experience as a mod wisely. - {{U|Wiz Herondale-Carstairs}}</s> -- Vote struck per [[Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy|Voting Policy]]; user does not have fifty edits. --[[User:Cavalier One|<span style="color:black">'''Cavalier One'''</span>]][[File:Gryffindorcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Cavalier One|<span style="color:red">''Wizarding Wireless Network''</span>]])</sup> 12:54, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
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# I support this nomination. Newt has always been a great moderator, willing to help out all the time, shutting things down when they need to be, and taking care of things in a friendly, yet official way. I think Newt would be an excellent administrator, and he would use his experience as a mod wisely. - {{U|Wiz Herondale-Carstairs}}
# <s><nowiki>*when wiz took the words right out of your fingers* Alright so, long story short, I think that Newt would make an excellent admin on the Harry Potter Wiki. Why? Well, let's make this story long: Newt is a very experienced moderator/admin. I've seen him on the Disney and The Hunger Games wiki, and he's phenomenal. He's an organized person [just look at the Hunger Games tournament he made] and he always makes everyone feel included. He's got what it takes to be an admin. ~~~~Broadway Blackthorn1234</nowiki></s> -- Vote struck per [[Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy|Voting Policy]]; user does not have fifty edits. --[[User:Cavalier One|<span style="color:black">'''Cavalier One'''</span>]][[File:Gryffindorcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Cavalier One|<span style="color:red">''Wizarding Wireless Network''</span>]])</sup> 12:54, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
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# <nowiki>*when wiz took the words right out of your fingers* Alright so, long story short, I think that Newt would make an excellent admin on the Harry Potter Wiki. Why? Well, let's make this story long: Newt is a very experienced moderator/admin. I've seen him on the Disney and The Hunger Games wiki, and he's phenomenal. He's an organized person [just look at the Hunger Games tournament he made] and he always makes everyone feel included. He's got what it takes to be an admin. ~~~~Broadway Blackthorn1234</nowiki>
# <s>I also support this nomination! I think Newt will be an amazing administrator for many reasons. He has always been very helpful and kind, he knows how to manage well, and by becoming an administrator, Newt can use his experience to help the wiki. (Basically what wiz said!) -Bookworm1118</s> -- Vote struck per [[Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy|Voting Policy]]; user does not have fifty edits. --[[User:Cavalier One|<span style="color:black">'''Cavalier One'''</span>]][[File:Gryffindorcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Cavalier One|<span style="color:red">''Wizarding Wireless Network''</span>]])</sup> 12:54, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
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# I also support this nomination! I think Newt will be an amazing administrator for many reasons. He has always been very helpful and kind, he knows how to manage well, and by becoming an administrator, Newt can use his experience to help the wiki. (Basically what wiz said!) -Bookworm1118
 
# I'm for this nomination. Newt has a lot of experience already and he seems to know the ins and outs of the wiki very well. He's organized and knows to shut things down when they get out of hand. - {{U|Eddietheflamingo}}
 
# I'm for this nomination. Newt has a lot of experience already and he seems to know the ins and outs of the wiki very well. He's organized and knows to shut things down when they get out of hand. - {{U|Eddietheflamingo}}
 
# Newt didn't really try to "Force" them for user rights, at least and that's what a rival will said, He is just intruding his experience [[User:SecretSpyer|SecretSpyer]] ([[User talk:SecretSpyer|talk]]) 17:03, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
 
# Newt didn't really try to "Force" them for user rights, at least and that's what a rival will said, He is just intruding his experience [[User:SecretSpyer|SecretSpyer]] ([[User talk:SecretSpyer|talk]]) 17:03, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
# <s>Newt is very hardworking and he is always helpful and friendly. [[User:Prarthana Modi|Prarthana Modi]] ([[User talk:Prarthana Modi|talk]]) 06:24, October 14, 2020 (UTC)</s> -- Vote struck per [[Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy|Voting Policy]]; user does not have fifty edits. --[[User:Cavalier One|<span style="color:black">'''Cavalier One'''</span>]][[File:Gryffindorcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Cavalier One|<span style="color:red">''Wizarding Wireless Network''</span>]])</sup> 12:54, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
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# Newt is very hardworking and he is always helpful and friendly. [[User:Prarthana Modi|Prarthana Modi]] ([[User talk:Prarthana Modi|talk]]) 06:24, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
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# What everyone else said above. I support this nomination! -Ida.Ari
# <s>What everyone else said above. I support this nomination! -Ida.Ari</s> -- Vote struck per [[Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy|Voting Policy]]; user does not have fifty edits. --[[User:Cavalier One|<span style="color:black">'''Cavalier One'''</span>]][[File:Gryffindorcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Cavalier One|<span style="color:red">''Wizarding Wireless Network''</span>]])</sup> 12:54, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
 
   
 
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TheHacktivist42

I would like to nominate myself as a rollback. I have a good amount of edits across the main, template and user namespaces. I have experience dealing with vandals, and also experience with the user rights (content moderator, discussions moderator, and administrator) across several wikis. On the HPW, I have made some quality edits, having created and expanded several pages as well (check this, this, this and this). I value quality over quantity, so if you think my edit count isn't much, I assure you that I'll be consistent with my editing after getting the rights, and eventually it will increase. I want to help the wiki as much as I can, henceforth requesting the rights. I hope I get the support of my fellow Wikians.
Thanks and regards --       TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs     16:19, October 6, 2020 (UTC)

Not a bad candidate. I won't oppose. MechQueste 03:28, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
I support Hacks for rollback rights.,
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 08:55, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
Since I was asked for my input I will give it. Have there been instances in particular that have made you see a need for you to have Rollback rights, Hacks? I only ask because those rights are mostly used for reverting vandalism, and you only have 200+ edits here.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 17:07, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
I have been able to make good contributions in the content area, Dave. I can't remember exactly when and where, but yes, I have been able to make contributions, including trying to revert unnecessary edits (not really vandalism, but uncited references, unexplained deletions etc.) As linked above, I have also tried to create several pages in the Special:Wantedpages. As for the number of edits, I'll simply quote Remus:
"It is the quality of one's convictions edits that determine success, not the number of followers edits."- Remus Lupin, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2
Moreover, I will definitely increase my number of edits as time goes on! Don't worry!
--     TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs    06:07, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
To start with, I will clearly state that I am not clearly opposing this nomination. My initial question to Hacks is, what makes you wonder that Rollback rights must be granted to you? Rollback is basically a permission that gives the user, permission to undo edits/vandalism in just one click. Every user can help and revert edits but as the Help:User rights#Rollback states, it takes them a couple of clicks to do so. With rollback perms you get a button that does the same thing in just one click. What I am trying to understand is, how are you going to make use of these rights to better help the wiki? As suggested above, you are a decent user. No block history or offensive behaviour to the best of my knowledge. But users are granted rights based on their actions not based on promises to do actions after gaining rights. That said, a huge deal of your edits on the wiki, especially in the month of October seems to be on your Signature and your User page than main space edits. And almost all of your edits are tense correction edits (Not to say that it's wrong but that doesn't quite justify how gaining Rollback rights would help you, help the wiki.) You can obliviously wait for sometime, work on your edits, help the community and then request rights as is ideal. Thanks. --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   07:02, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
I appreciate your concern. I will not deny the fact that quantitatively, my edits are not much. You're right in saying that. Currently, I've not been able to come to the Wiki much for editing much due to real-life responsibilities, but given that some of those are now going away, I will be able to come online more often and help revert vandalism and increase my edits. As for the sig edits, well, I was doing some errors in the code, therefore it took a lot of publishing to come along. But, there's one thing I'd like to say: tense correction is not the only thing I've been doing! As mentioned (twice) and linked above, redlink creation has also been a task on my to-do list. Moreover, I've noticed and corrected several grammatical errors in few articles, added more info and such things. Still, I respect your words and your opinion, as it will only benefit me and help me improve! Thank you for your opinion. --     TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs    15:31, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
To answer your initial question: I think that if I get the rollback rights, I will be able to help undo vandalism swiftly when the other people in-charge are not around, due to timezones. Moreover, I've had a good amount of experience dealing with the content area throughout several Wikis, this Wiki being one. I want to help in maintaining and improving the content area of the Wiki, and though Content Moderator with the enhanced rights seems more appropriate for the job, I didn't think it very wise to apply for CMod just yet, with quantitatively less edits. I decided to go step-by-step, rollback being first, which, if I get, will help me in my plan for the wiki's improvement! --     TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs    15:41, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
As is being practised lately, please read my comment in a calm tone and do not perceive it as an attack on you. This is just supposed to be an analogy that helps me and perhaps others understand this nomination better. To give some rough figures as of now you have 80 mainspace edits. Out of these 80, 6 have been to create new pages (I am assuming they are from the WantedPages project?) Here: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Now in the history of all these 6 pages, I can see that only 3, 5 and 6 numbered pages are where you have had a major contribution alone with only 2 of them coming close to 500 bytes of the page's data. So your point about qualitative contributions is very much misleading here. Now I am not suggesting that creating a page means you have to be the only contributor of the page or the highest contributor of the page but this was stated just to highlight that your argument about considering your request for Rollback rights, based on your "Qualitative contribution" alone does not suffice just like it doesn't in case of quantitative ones.
Now you also suggest that you have qualitatively helped revert vandalism on the wiki actively. I can see a total of 8 undo revisions by you. One of them was your own edit, 4 of them were wrong reverts and corrected by MrSiriusBlack (which perhaps is indicative that you aren't quite familiar with the policies properly and could use more experience qualitatively as well as quantitatively) and other 3 were correct. So I again fail to see the quality as well as the quantity here. Similar statistics can be gained for grammar correction edits as well.
As you implied that you have been busy with your real-life matters and that is fair! Real-life comes first! Always! But if you will have more time now then I would suggest you should work on your edits more rather than focusing on gaining rights that you have not quite shown any responsibility for, yet. That doesn't mean you don't deserve it per say but I think much more time and efforts are needed from your side towards the wiki to be trusted with additional rights. As for your signatures and User page edits, I am not suggesting that you cannot do them, but in the month of October, those seem to be your major editing arena than wiki pages.
That said, in order to help a wiki you don't need rights. You can do that without rights easily so if your plan (as is indicative by the term "I decided to go step-by-step, rollback being first...") is to gain rights and then help the wiki, then I would like to inform you that that is not how wikis work. You help the wiki first and then the wiki entrusts you with extra user rights. (please correct me if I am wrong in the previous interpretation.) Again I have no issues with Hacks but I personally think that they need more experience on the wiki as an editor before they gain rights. (PS: The numbers and other data mentioned could be wrong.) Given all this info, Hacks needs much more experience and familiarity with HPW rules, policies and general functioning than they currently have. Thanks! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   18:29, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
I understand your concern, and I won't deny the fact that my contributive figures in the content area are not as satisfactory or valuable as in the Discussions Area. But let me make one thing crystal clear: gaining rights is not my sole motive here. It is to help the Wiki, and the rights are mere tools, yet useful, in achieving that. I understand if you will vote against my nomination, no hard feelings. I'll continue to contribute and help the Wiki notwithstanding whether I get the rollback rights or not. That's all I'd like to say here. Thank you. --     TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs    17:23, October 13, 2020 (UTC)

This request has been open for 7 days of discussion now. Like multiple users above, I generally think that the nominee does not have enough experience with properly undoing vandalism and bad edits to be given rollback rights, and as such will pass on holding a vote for this request. Per the Harry Potter Wiki:User Rights policy you are welcome to petition other Harry Potter Wiki:Administrators to see if they feel you are qualified and are willing to open a vote for your request. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:16, October 14, 2020 (UTC)

I respect y'all's inputs. Ironyak1, you're the Admin I know best on this Wiki, so it would not be very wise for me to petition another Admin when you having known me think that I need more experience. Request you to kindly archive this. Thank you all for your time. --      TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs     11:47, October 14, 2020 (UTC)

Content Moderator

These users are able to delete and protect pages as well as rename files.

Kates39

I would like to nominate Kates39 as a new Content Moderator. Kates39 has been a long-time contributor and shown a reliable and keen eye with her edits and feedback. She most recently has guided the Special:WantedPages clean-up, helping to reduce the redlinks by many thousands, as well as suggested and helped author much of the User Right Policy. If she has an interest, her insights and attention to detail would be helpful and appreciated in shaping future policies, including one for Content Moderators, as well as improving the overall organization of the site. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:48, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

I fully support this nomination. Kates is clearly a very competent user who has been a massively fantastic help on the wiki recently, and would make a perfect Content Moderator in my opinion. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:39, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

I support this nomination as well. Kates will do good with the job.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 12:21, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I support Kates39 getting content moderator. MechQueste 12:23, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the nomination, and the support so far! I would love an opportunity to join the team, and I accept the nomination. - Kates39 (talk) 13:54, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I have known Kates for a very long time. I remember my very first proper article edit (or rather an attempt to an article edit) on Harry Potter Wiki was guided by Kates! Since then I have seen her work on the wiki with utmost dedication and efforts. She is a very good candidate for the job. These last few weeks with Policy updates, I got a chance to work with her on a couple of policies and it showed me her dedication to the wiki even further! I support her nomination! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   15:06, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Haven't really interacted with Kates39 (we should change that!) but they are obviously a valued community member, so you'll get no objection from me. Cheers,  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 16:33, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

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I think Kate is a dedicated, kind, and composed editor. My past experience was that she'd looked into things when being approached, and I found her beyond super helpful, for example, when discussing about appropriate contents or titles of articles Rionach O'Neal, Restricted Section, and Telephone box etc. Those are obviously not all, but just the ones I vividly remember and still try appreciate. In short, imho, strong candidate. Supporting. =] --Sammm✦✧(talk) 02:18, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

I also support Kates39 being appointed as a content moderator. She is very pleasant and hard-working.--RedWizard98 (talk) 16:00, October 9, 2020 (UTC)

Given the unambiguous showing of support here, I would like to formally open a vote on this nomination following the process detailed in the User Rights policy - Request for Permissions.

Users should sign under For or Against this nomination with four tildes like so: # ~~~~. A comment can also be included with their vote if a user wishes.

NOTE: Anyone who did not participate in the discussion above MUST include a explanatory comment with their vote for it to be counted as specified in the User Rights policy.

Please use the discussion section above to raise any additional issues or questions that may need to be addressed. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:00, October 8, 2020 (UTC)

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  1.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 04:01, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  2. --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   04:42, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Sammm✦✧(talk) 05:58, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  4.  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  09:29, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  5.  Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 09:30, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  6. MechQueste 11:28, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  7. they sound nice and helpful --Dragonfly2178 (talk) 20:02, October 11, 2020 (UTC)<

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MrSiriusBlack

Greetings all. I hope everyone reading this is doing well. I am Sirius, or MSB, whichever you’d prefer.

Now that the new User Rights policy has finally been passed and this RFP page has reopened, I stand before you today to put myself forward as a nominee for also becoming Content Moderator.

It has been clear to me for a while that this wiki would greatly benefit from the addition of more Content Moderators, and it would be my honour to serve in such a role.

I am by now quite well acquainted with the current Content and Discussions Moderators on this wiki, thanks to my relatively senior role on the Discord server staff team alongside most of them, and I would be honoured to be able to call them colleagues on this wiki as well.

I have been an editor on this wiki for eight years, and sometimes it feels like it’s always been a part of my life. Of course, it goes without saying that my first couple of years on this wiki were not my finest, and I did some stupid things that I fully regret, and won’t deny, but I’d like to think that, in this past year at least, I have proven that I am not the same person that I once was, that I have matured greatly in the many years since then. Over the last few months I have been working pretty solidly for the benefit of this wiki, keeping an eye out for bad edits, bad uploads, missed redlinks resulting from deletions (including playing a part in the large-scale WantedFiles and WantedPages problem that we had), and I am more than willing to continue for as long as I can.

I do have experience in wiki moderation – on the Waterloo Road Wiki I have been an admin for six years and a bureaucrat for three. It is of course a much smaller wiki than this one, but hey, we all have to start somewhere :P

Thanks for taking the time to read this, I’m sorry it ended up being quite as wordy as it is.

Mischief managed. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:39, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

I support this nomination as well. After few interactions with him on discord and seeing their work on wiki I'm positive he will be a good part of the team.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 12:21, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I support the nomination too. Sirius has been an invaluable help in the clean-up of WantedPages and WantedFiles, and I have every confidence he will continue to be a big help on the wiki. - Kates39 (talk) 13:54, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
MSB has earned his status as Prefect Incharge on Harry Potter Wiki Discord Server. While this may not prove anything based on his competency as a content mod given that both the jobs require different skills, I have seen him edit the wiki religiously at least from the month of July. I have also seen him take part in wiki Policy updates and I think he will do well as a Content Mod on the wiki! I support this nomination! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   15:11, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I am in support of MSB gaining tools. MechQueste 16:01, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I also fully support Mr Sirius Black being appointed as a content moderator.--RedWizard98 (talk) 16:00, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
I fully support this nomination. However, I do have one question for Sirius- in your block log it seems that you were blocked for a year by the administrator Nick O'Demus for "Vandalism and/or general disruption: Sock puppet of vandal". When it comes to being granted extra permissions on a wiki this does come off as strange. Would you mind explaining the situation to those who might find this concerning? It was 6 years ago, but I still think it would be beneficial for this to be addressed.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 16:14, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Basically, my foolish and incredibly naive childhood self thought it would be funny to replace the infobox image on the Quirinus Quirrell page with a picture of a Squirrel. Obviously not something I would even think about doing these days. That's what I meant by 'stupid things I fully regret', and having 'matured greatly in the many years since then.'. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  16:21, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, mate. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to this!  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 16:33, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Of course. And you were right, the block did need addressing; the 'stupid things I regret' thing was an attempt to address it, but not a very good attempt, in hindsight.
Thanks everyone for the support, though! -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  16:36, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, in catching up with this, your account is a sock-puppet of a known vandal account? What was your other account? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:40, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
ProfessorSquirrel, I think? The edits on that account are from the right timeframe. Man...the contributions list on that account really isn't good, and I am utterly ashamed, I was a very very different person back then, I don't even recognise myself, I don't even remember most of it. But for the sake of transparency, I don't mind publicly revealing it. I really am sorry. I'd like to think that how hard I work these days proves how much I've matured since. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  18:50, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, the contributions from that account are pretty objectionable. In looking through the past contributions for your current account, it looks like you also engaged in an edit war over at Talk:Red Sparks, insulting the users there that disagreed with you, and then personally attacked both a user, and an admin over the disagreement. You're saying that you've learned from these past mistakes, but just a few years back you were blaming your little brother as the true cause of the Quirrel edit war? I've just started doing the usual review for nominees, but these past actions already are all pretty murky and quite concerning to be honest. --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:27, October 6, 2020 (UTC)
Ah yes indeed, the old 'my younger brother used my account' excuse, oldest and poorest excuse in the book. All that you just mentioned was what I meant by stupid things I fully regret, and my first couple of years not being my finest. But it was years ago, Yak, years ago, I was a child. It would be a heck of a lot more concerning if that stuff happened more recently, don't you think? I've been working so hard to make up for it. Fandom staff themselves trusted me enough to let me adopt the Waterloo Road wiki, by the way.
Ladies and gentlepeople of the jury, I think we shouldn't dwell too much on the actions of a child many years ago. I did my time, as it were, and since returning from my block, if memory serves, I haven't done anything bad apart from blaming my nonexistent brother like an idiot.
Fast forward to now, the version of me who is asking for rights, and you've got someone who's been devoting himself for the good of the wiki, and I've clearly done something right, given all these positive messages of support.
Murky and concerning past? Yes. We all make mistakes. I was hoping that the sheer length of time since then would mean something. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:12, October 6, 2020 (UTC)

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Hi there, for the moment I'm being "cautiously supportive;" the reason of this was because I personally haven't crossed paths too much with MSB, but when I got back from my brief hiatus mid 2020, all MSB's contributions seemed sound, and all corespondents seemed cordial, so on those fronts, to me, he does feel very qualified, perhaps even overly, depending on how one looks at it.

That said, I think concerns raised shouldn't be completely brushed aside, I mean, there's "water under the bridge," and there's "pretending certain things never happened," and those two aren't exactly the same. I think people asking the questions really just want to understand what truly happened, since, the incidents themselves weren't originally mentioned. It was through Q&A that viewers are gradually seeing more of the whole picture and not just bits and pieces. Looking at the convo, it does look kind of like an interrogation, but it didn't have to be, should every relevant aspect be provided in one go.

Like Dave and Yak, I've noticed the block and the warnings, and I'll share why I'm even aware of this. When I first saw MSB's contributions, I was like, wow, who is this super helpful person and why hadn't I known them before? Thus, I went to User profile and User talk to see what I've missed out, and inevitably saw that on late June of 2014‎, an edit summary was provided as the following: "Formal withdrawal from editing on this wiki. This shall be the last of my edits on this wik ki." and with a -12,646 byte-size reduction of the User talk. This act does go against policy, so I went to see what got removed and there's that.

I think the sentence "I have been an editor on this wiki for eight years [...]" can be a tad bit misleading; while technically the statement isn't incorrect, for MSB's profile shows that he's joined the community since Nov 2012, but he hadn't been active in entirety during the timespan, which, in itself, isn't a must or something bad, just, like I said, a little misleading. It makes finding out having received a one-year-block sort of a nasty shock.

I didn't know about the thing with MSB's brother, until it was pointed out. Twice MSB has admitted that "That's what I meant by 'stupid things I fully regret', and having 'matured greatly in the many years since then.'", the problem is, the statement itself was vague. I can't do mind-reading and I'm not going to know "oh, of course those things were the 'stupid things [he] fully regret[s]'" and I don't think I'm the only person like this. After seeing the statement the second time, I'm more worried that there's something else that hadn't been mentioned but nonetheless sworn not to be repeated due to maturity. I mean, the end result is all good, but if the direction of the Q&A feels like it's dragging out and not in the best light, perhaps mentioning things all at once would do the trick.

I don't think the questions are personal, but that's just me. I wrote a lot, because personally, I don't think there's right and wrong but unfortunately to me the convo is starting to get intense. I still think the edits done by (the-matured-and-having-turned-a-new-leaf?) MSB I've seen, very constructive and beneficial, making (the-current-version-of?) him a great candidate. And I think, if there's any other concerns, going over them all now, can have them officially be done with, and then people can truly let bygones be bygones.

(Side-note: I have no idea why I never connected Quirrell with Squirrel and I do find that part hilarious, even though the edit itself wasn't appropriate where it was done.)

MSB, if you finish reading this, I hope you know that I believe you have the best of intentions, and I can understand that being repetitively questioned could be frustrating, but I think when you have nothing to hide, while answering them can be tedious, it's just things to go through. It's like you said, people can grow up and mature. You are doing great so far. Don't get discouraged. =]

--Sammm✦✧(talk) 02:18, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Sammm, I really appreciate this message. Yes, in hindsight, the line about my first couple of years here not being my finest is vaguer than I intended; I guess I was too embarrassed and ashamed to be more specific. I didn't mean to be misleading, I've never been very good with words in these sorts of situations.
But, everything has now been laid bare in all detail, I am fairly certain there is nothing else to reveal, and I believe I have been as readily honest as possible apart from that vagueity. Cheers -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  08:49, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
To follow on what Sammm鯊 said a bit: The discussion is not intended to be intense - rather the questions are the just the results of trying to puzzle out what actually happened that we are being asked to look past. Having been an editor on the site for several years, and a regular reader before then, these timelines don't seem like some distant pass to me, although I can understand how perspectives on this may vary. I guess I too find it a bit disingenuous for you to highlight being "an editor for 8 years" but then saying we should ignore your contributions from much of that time.
However, given that you actually only have ~30 mainspace edits from 2012 - May 2020, putting those aside leaves less than 6 months of contributions, which to me would be of some concern for any user asking for Content Moderation rights. That said, I agree with Sammm鯊 that the majority of those edits have been solid and helpful overall. As such this request is a bit of a conundrum, which leaves me on the fence currently. --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:40, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
I realise now that "I have been an editor on this wiki for eight years" was a dumb thing for me to say, clearly I didn't think that through properly. Once again, there was no intent to mislead, I'm just bad with words sometimes; but yeah, my edit count was 132 when I made my first edit of this year, however there is nothing in HPW:UR that implies that is a problem.
I did not at any point say that you should ignore any of my edits. I just meant that I don't think I should be judged too harshly now, for what I did then, which I've already been punished for, and haven't done anything of the sort since and certainly never would again.
I probably still sound dumb tbh, but eh, I just want to help out in any way I can, y'know? And as I've said, this wiki would benefit from having more content moderators. Not because the existent content moderators are bad, far from it, I mean because they are relatively few in number; I dunno. My two cents, as they say. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  18:16, October 8, 2020 (UTC)

When I first edited on this wiki in 2012-2014, I was very young, I didn't know what I was doing, I had no idea how the wiki worked or anything about its policies. Of course I understand that this doesn't justify my behaviour of those days, all I mean is that I have learned from my mistakes & I am a much better person now.

These days, I understand the wiki and its policies fully, and I have worked hard this year to help out, flagging up bad images & fanon pages for deletion, a lot of changing article tense, and cleaning up WantedPages and WantedFiles. FANDOM Staff trusted me enough to let me adopt a smaller wiki in 2017, and the staff of this wiki's discord server trusted me enough to appoint me to Prefect Incharge, and they were right to, it's been going very well.

If I didn't honestly believe that I would be a good choice for Content Moderator, I would not have nominated myself. But I did, because I do. And if appointed, you can rest assured I would not let anyone down, and that is certainly a promise. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  18:12, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

As I noted above, on my opinion this nomination has presented a bit of a quandry given the mix of issues it has raised. However, with the week of discussion coming to a close, a path forward has to be determined so, in accordance with Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy and Harry Potter Wiki:User Rights policy, I am going to pass on opening a vote for this nomination, but not deny a vote based on an objection, and recommend the nominee check if another Administrator is able and willing to be the Organising Admin for their vote, in the hopes that either an admin who was active during the past events of concern, or entirely neutral throughout these affairs, can better weigh the situation. Should a vote not result this week for this nomination, I would encourage the nominee to consider requesting permissions again at a future time when their more recent contributions alone can more clearly justify the proposal. Regards --Ironyak1 (talk) 09:46, October 12, 2020 (UTC)

I understand that the 7-day discussion period has now expired, however I am still in the process of searching for an OA, so I ask that this RFP not be closed just yet. Three admins have passed on conducting a vote, but not out of objection, and this means that per HPW:UR this RFP is not considered denied, not yet at least. I apologise that this RFP is far from a straightforward one, but I'm hopeful that a decision can be reached soon. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  13:30, October 12, 2020 (UTC)

Oh, much agreed - figure give some time for any other Administrators to reply and go from there. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:11, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  17:17, October 12, 2020 (UTC)



MechQueste (3)

Hello folks, After a lot of things, I’ve decided to just apply for content moderator tools here instead of administrator.

Let me re-iterate what I will do as content moderator here on the site.

Now, if granted tools, I have a set of goals to accomplish

  1. Delete pages. This includes fanon and warning users and files and pages in Category:Candidates for deletion
  2. rename a few pages from Category:Candidates for renaming
  3. Answer queries from the Requests for Administrator attention page
  4. Help out people on the wiki.

The listed items is what I will do with content moderator tools on the Harry Potter Wiki.

The wiki has been part of my life since 2018 and especially since earlier this year. I intend to continue a bit more time to improve the site.

Thank you.

MechQueste 16:26, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

I support this nomination. I know Mech will do good as a content mod or even as an admin. My best wishes are with him.

 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 15:19, October 9, 2020 (UTC)

I also fully support MechQueste being made a content moderator again. He will do an excellent job of it.--RedWizard98 (talk) 16:00, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
I would support MechQueste gaining their extra user rights back, now that we have adopted a User Rights Policy that has hopefully helped to clear any confusion or issues that had happened. I think the above looks like a good set of goals. - Kates39 (talk) 10:15, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

I have some strong reservations about this nomination given some of the past choices and ongoing issues both from when they were last a Content Moderator as well as more recently. It was back in July when it was realized that they had renamed 1000+ images with little to no discussion and without a making a redirect causing numerous problems both on current articles and page histories. Given it's been over three months, have you fixed this issue and made all the missing redirects ? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 13:09, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm not going through another redux of your behaviour.
To answer your question, Its a manual fix that many people have worked on before and I will have to check the links. I probably will leave redirects. MechQueste 13:16, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
If by "my behavior" you mean me expressing my concerns with choices made by users and how they negatively affect the wiki and its community, that's kind of my responsibility as an administrator and I would be negligent in my role if I didn't do so. Would it be accurate to say that this issue still hasn't been fixed yet and there are hundreds of redirects still missing from your past renaming work? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 13:41, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

You can submit your concerns and line of questioms to staff via special:contact. MechQueste 13:45, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused - are you FANDOM Staff? Why would I use their contact information to communicate with you? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 13:48, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
I'm not staff.
As for the hundreds of redirects, I'm not sure what you want me to do? The red links generated by my renaming have been cleaned up, plus more done with collaboration of others. MechQueste 14:05, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
I would just like to request that all parties maintain the civil nature of this discussion. Thanks --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   15:09, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reminder Reverb - I would hope everyone abides by this as well.
As for what should be done with the missing redirects, I would hope that they were replaced as needed. You acknowledged in the Forum the problems caused by your renaming without a redirect and that you would be sure to make redirects going forward, and with all the attention put into cleaning up this mess, it seems you would have fixed those mistakes as well? It's easy of course to generate a list of which items need attention (just scroll through and find the many redlinks) so it's unclear to me why these were left for others to have to clean up.
The reason that I ask is because there seems to be a bit of a pattern in this regard. When you were mass uploading images from Wizarding World, many of them had problems such as being duplicates or having broken summaries, or missing categories almost all of which had to be corrected by other users. It reached the point that after leaving you multiple messages about the issues I had to ask you to stop entirely as you were creating many problems that everyone else had to fix. I would hope that Content Moderators would be able to upload images correctly and not create many, many problems that are left for others to fix. Thoughts on why this was all left for others to take care of? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:00, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the red links created by not leaving a redirect, I believe the project undertaken have been solving them, and are finished, if it is.

However, I know there are numerous concerns of my style of edits. I have read a lot of the forums recently, and I have learned quite a big deal. Thus, I will be going through the renames and recreating the suppressed redirects.


Also, I won't be bulk uploading images from WizardingWorld.com. I go through images slowly one by one. Thank you. MechQueste 16:08, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

I have seen a lot of MechQueste's work on this wiki and I am impressed in a lot of ways, but given some of the behavior they have displayed in the Policy Review process and some of their earlier Requests for Permissions I have to say that I don't really support this nomination. I think that stating every grievance I have with this nomination would be a bit much, so I will leave it at that.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 17:03, October 11, 2020 (UTC)


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Hi there, MechQueste! I left the above symbol as an indicator of some sort for the start of another line of inquiry, in case you'd like to reply to Dave when you have time. My post comes after his but isn't really agreeing or disagreeing with his statement, it's just a different topic, hope that makes some sense.

I'm full of questions, because admittedly I don't personally think I know you well (tbh, I don't think I know a lot of people well, so when I see the chance of understanding people a little more, I'd try to take it,) in reviewing your previous application and various forum participation, it feels like questions aren't always received well, possibly due to the interpretation of tone and connotation, misunderstanding, or miscommunication (or all of the above.) I think that's the downside of just reading text, but then again, even in real life, misunderstanding happens, so before I even actually start, I just want to emphasize that the following question is not meant for antagonizing you, I genuinely want to understand how to respond to the action.

On late September 2020, you've made two consecutive edits here and here with respective edit summaries "move to archive. no possible continuation for messages. I'll see you all in 5 years." and "see you all in 40 years.", I don't know about anyone else but I was at least a little shocked to see those statements, that said, it looks like you didn't leave anyway?

Through this inquiry, I'm trying to understand:

  1. Do you feel it's okay for anyone in general, to leave comments about leaving 5-40 years?
    1. Like, is this kind of attitude tolerable, and should it be expected to make regular appearances when people are frustrated? What's the ideal approach if/when this happens?
  2. Is it something that would quickly pass, or should people, as fellow members of the community, spend time on asking after your wellbeing?
    1. I am serious about this, because I can't figure out if that was some kind of SOS signal that we shouldn't ignore, because we do care, or if it's some issue you'd be able to work out on your own.

I'm asking this, because I think it's hard to see those two comments as statements left by someone feeling positive, and I'd like to think we aren't cruel to look away when someone is potentially suffering. When seeing this type of comments, should we show more care, or the opposite, give you some space to cool off? I believe I saw the term "healing" in some of the discussions, I do not know if you yourself are a part of the wounded and feeling hurt, but if you are, then again, I'm trying to understand how to best handle this situation. Brushing aside anyone's feelings is never an objective. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 01:31, October 12, 2020 (UTC)

I will decline to answer both of these answers publicly, although I suspect this decline & contradictory words will be held against me. However, I sincerely appreciate the fact that you have wrote to ask about my mental well health. Thank you. MechQueste 01:38, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
Hey there! No worries, I believe it's well within your rights to decline answering. I'm sorry if I've made you uncomfortable though, still trying to figure out the comfort zone here. But yeah, I think HPW is generally a caring community, just that sometimes we can be so very focused on what's being discussed and not showcasing the caring part prominently. Take care. =] --Sammm✦✧(talk) 02:06, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
Part of what I think Sammm鯊 is getting at are the difficulties involved with communicating with you about much of your activity here. When trying to understand why you were uploading hundreds of copyrighted images from WizardingWorld.com, you stated that these were to make galleries such as this. When I point out to you that this is expressly against the Harry Potter Wiki:Image policy, which has been in place for 10+ years and based around the legal requirements of Fair Use doctrine, you argue about the policy, and then archive your talk page and say you're leaving for 5 to 40 years to avoid further conversation. This results in the situation being left unresolved and creates again another set of problems that other users now have to invest their time and energy to clean up and sort out (because of course, these files as well haven't been addressed in any way to bring them in line with the Policy requirements, correct?) This repeated avoidance of discussion and disruptive tendencies are a major concern and strong source of reservation in regards to someone requesting to be entrusted with more permissions and responsibility. --Ironyak1 (talk) 11:00, October 12, 2020 (UTC)

As the discussion period is soon coming to a close on this nomination, I would like to try again to understand why you have taken certain actions. Last month, when Recent Activity was being flooded and WikiActivity was breaking and only displaying only a small number of results, I asked why you were using automation to change a synonym that would affect thousands of articles (without discussing the change with anyone), you archived your talk page after one day and then in the process of making an archive add a reply to my message that to claim that you were not using automation. As that message is only one day old, why are you archiving it and intentionally adding a reply in the archiving process that would not be seen? Moreoever, if you're not using automation, why do you have edits like this one where the Summary says it was done by a bot? "(Bot: Removing ar, oc, vi; modifying es, no, sr, sv, uk)". Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:49, October 14, 2020 (UTC)

Bot

Administrator

These users are able to delete and protect pages along with blocking users.

Reverb frost

While this may seem a bit unconventional to some, I would like to nominate Reverb frost to be an Administrator, as it's become clear to me that the site would greatly benefit from having an admin focused on Discussions, and Reverb frost has worked long and hard in that area to help build, organize, and serve the community there. As the only admin to put any serious time and effort into Discussions, I know directly the need for and value that an admin focused on this area would bring, and Reverb's extensive experience there, along with their role on other social platforms such as the newer Discord server and on other wikis as a GDM, is invaluable. This appointment would help balance out the site's other admins who focus almost exclusively on the wiki. Reverb frost also has contributed extensively to the ongoing Forum:Policy Review, including helping to author parts of various policies, and if they are interested, I believe their focus and attention to detail would be extremely beneficial to the community as we move forward with this and other projects. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:52, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

It would be my honour to help serve this wiki as an Admin. I accept this nomination and look forward to discussions and hopefully followed by a vote. Thanks for nominating me! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   07:39, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I'm completely against this nomination. Discussion don't need admins to moderate. There is nothing a discussion mod or atleast Reverb or Dave can't do that there needs to be an admin dedicated for that area. In past, User:CosmicChronos applied for the same reason that is to be a mod dedicated for discussion but was completely refused by the community so I don't know how this would work. I'm surprised even after showing the politics which Reverb frost plays around here with users planning behind their back as how to demote admins he is being nominated here as admin. Not to mention he has been blocked in past for harrassing users and has recently harrassed me as well on my "mod nomination post". The kind of attacks he does to his fellow GDMs questioning their competency is yet again insulting. Such kind of behaviour imo is not suitable for someone to even become a local Dmod... admin is quite a different thing. Point to note his contribution to discussion about Harry Potter topics is almost negligible. I doubt he has even a in-depth knowledge of the universe. I have never in my three year period seen them in engaging in depth-Discussions so I don't think someone who lacks critical knowledge about Potterverse should be an admin. Kind regards. Basically a "door" is being created here to entirely shut off my dream of being a Dmod here with this nomination cuz it's known to everyone how Reverb hates me and stalks me to other wikis and make me feel uncomfortable with his presence. If Reverb can be an admin I suppose I and Dave can be as well since we both are GDMs like him, have engaged in the site from quite a long time. I can proudly say that I'm one of the oldest users here after Reverb, Sam and Ellie and Icecreamdif but yet I'm not a Dmod. Please give people what they deserve.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 07:08, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
As pointed out by Ironyak1 Discussions on HPW do need an admin and as a matter of fact ever since Yak started contributing to the Dboard as an admin, things have been quite streamlined and helpful. In the past when admins were requested to intervene the Dboard, admins may have denied it earlier but then if I remember correctly when the same mod, CosmicChronos drew the attention of admins, Ironyak1 since then has dedicated a significant amount of time to the Dboard as a Discussions focused admin. That said, earlier there may have not been a need for such involvement, perhaps because the feature as new but with moving time demand has changed perhaps. The politics that you refer to, is just wild accusations and conjectures. As for my block, I have pointed this out many times in the past and I am doing it again, the block was set by the then Dmods who had been abusing their rights to block users. This was proved and handled by two FANDOM staff members and an admin (perhaps {U|Seth Cooper}} and those same mods unbanned me as well. It was a result of the personal grudge they had with me as has been proved time and again, unlike your block which was a result of you abusing your Global Rights as a GDM.
That said, it would be highly inappropriate to say my contribution related to the franchise is negligible given the many series of events I have helped organise and post. That is again highly misleading. With all due respect Newt, I would like to point out something very important and that is, the world doesn't always revolve around you. No "door" is being "created" or anything like that. Stalking? I am sorry to break your bubble but I have more interesting and important things to do than stalk someone who makes misleading and false accusations and baseless arguments.
Newt, it is quite clear that this comment by you was just an act of vengeance, but I will try my best to perceive it as criticism although it lacks all essence of criticism and say I have replied to your false accusations. Thanks! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   08:02, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
I would like to hear what Yak has to offer regarding what I showed him about you being involved in back room politics in demoting admins of this wiki. Thnx.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 08:52, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Hi Newt Strike, you're welcome to voice your concerns but please keep this civil. Additionally, please remember that a nomination should be about benefiting the community, not about benefiting oneself. It isn't fair to make other users nomination about yourself.—TIMESHADE |Talk/Wall| - |C| 08:27, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
So Reverb contacted you...haha...no surprise. Sorry if it felt was not civil. I was merely stating facts nothing else. And I agree we should be on topic at hand and discuss about Reverb's nomination not me. Sorry and thank you.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 08:46, October 5, 2020 (UTC)


I am supportive of an admin who is focused on discussions. Reverb is a yes for me. MechQueste 11:15, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Reverb is definitely the right candidate for administrator. He is clearly mature and capable of administrating, his time as mod and admin on the dboard and discord respectively have certainly proven that. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:43, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

I feel it's very needed for the wiki to have an admin to focus on Discussions too, and the candidate's very capable of doing it. I too support the nomination. - Kates39 (talk) 13:54, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Whoa, whoa, whoa... This is something I have been fighting for the past 2 years. I have always been super pro-admin involvement in the Discussions, mostly due to the fact that having a group of moderators lead the Discussions with no one to keep them in check is counter-productive to the cause, as we saw with the former group of moderators before Reverb frost and I were elected. I have pushed for this for far too long, even when it got me into trouble xD. I think that Reverb frost would be the perfect candidate to take up this role. Having worked with him extensively for the past few years I have gotten to know him personally and let me just say that he is one of the best mods I have ever worked with. Having an admin be the owner of the Discord server and help us run Discussions would greatly benefit those parts of the wiki, so I fully support this nomination.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 15:52, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the support guys! Really appreciate it! I would like to add that I am currently working on a method to change the RFP's technical functioning with the use of InputBox. It is my understanding that this would make the various levels of RFP procedures such as nomination, discussion, votes, archive etc much easier and pre-defined. I have been working on this project since July. It is still not 100% ready but a basic sketch is ready and with some minor changes, it would ready to go! Since this is not a priority update, but one that I think is worth putting forth the community to discuss, I will make a Forum for it or request another admin to do so, and official table the idea! Thanks! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   17:07, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
@Newt Strike - As has been formalized in the Harry Potter Wiki:Discord Policy, whatever conversations happen off of the Harry Potter Wiki are not business of the Harry Potter Wiki. It's clear several users are chit-chatting behind the scenes, but it has no bearing on the running of the site.
Over the last ~2 years that I have been heavily involved with Discussions, it's become clear that an Admin is needed in the space, not so much for the permissions involved, but for the role they play in helping to guide the community, track and understand their issues, and see how these fit into the larger operation of the site, and FANDOM, as a whole. This sort of activity is precisely what Reverb frost has been helping to do for a considerable time now so it only makes sense to me to recommend that they have the role & title to match those efforts. The fact that they have also been investing time in possible enhancements for the RFP process only reinforces to me their interest and dedication to do the work that benefits the site and its community, instead of pursuing new permissions for their own aggrandizement. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:30, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

they sound ok --Dragonfly2178 (talk) 20:02, October 11, 2020 (UTC)


As there has not been any new discussion on this for a few days, I would like to formally open a vote on this nomination following the process detailed in the User Rights policy - Request for Permissions.

Users should sign under For or Against this nomination with four tildes like so: # ~~~~. A comment can also be included with their vote if a user wishes.

NOTE: Anyone who did not participate in the discussion above MUST include a explanatory comment with their vote for it to be counted as specified in the User Rights policy.

Please use the discussion section above to raise any additional issues or questions that may need to be addressed. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:04, October 10, 2020 (UTC)

For

  1.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 06:13, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
  2.     TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs   - Reason: Reverb is an excellent candidate for Administrator, seeing as how effectively he moderates the discussions. The idea of having an admin from the discussions area is quite good, and Reverb frost is a great choice!
  3. K Kraken talk - Reason: Reverb is a really great mod and his techniques to handle a certain argument is really great and humourous. I will love to have an admin like Reverb,cause I believe Reverb frost will help take the wiki to pinnacle of glory.
  4. - Kates39 (talk) 10:23, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
  5.    P r a t s    Talk Here  Reberb is very good at his work and knows the working of hp wiki. He can solve arguments very easily. Prarthana Modi (talk) 12:03, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
  6.  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  12:22, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Sir memes a lot more than needed (talk) 12:31, October 10, 2020 (UTC) Reason: Reverb frost has been greatly been contributing to the community for quite a long time now and is still doing marvellous job at it. As already stated in the discussion section above, another administrator participating in the discussions would be an amazing and a great gain for the community with addition of the fact that the candidate here is very well suited for the position and will surely be a great benefit and help for the community.
  8. Simple and full support. Reverb frost has been super helpful in moderation of discussions. MechQueste 14:01, October 10, 2020 (UTC)

Against



Newt Strike

Greeting Wikians, so you heard it right it's your very own Newt Strike trying to get admin rights here. Now that I know that Discussions can have admins dedicated to that place I thought I will put my ring in the hat as well. Most of you already know me and I don't have to brag that I'm a Global Discussions Moderator and a Community Councilor alongwith adminstrator on twilight, throne of glass wikis where I'm specifically been promoted to improve the Discussion area. Not only this but there are several other wikis where I'm an admin or moderator.

I think my expertise and experience with Dboard is really gonna helpful for this wiki. I'm also a wiki editor where I usually fix tense in articles as per our past tense policy. I'm aware f this whole place including main site/Dboard/Discord. In past days, I too have tried to help with working out the policy and all and discuss their oros and cons finally giving them a solid structure although it were not my suggestions which got passed but anyways I have been helpful atleast. So, hope you consider my nomination. Thnx.

 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 20:15, October 5, 2020 (UTC)


I support this nonimation! Newt is very experienced and responsible! He is an adminstrator on a lot of wikis! Also, the dmod experience really helps the discussions area, as admins have perms to manage both of the wiki pages and the dboard. Plus, being a GDM helps too! Newt's expertise with Discord matters either! --Ida.Ari (talk) 09:19, October 6, 2020 (UTC)

I am personally opposed to this nomination for a lot of reasons. Please don't see this as me attacking you, Newt Strike. These are fact-based reasons and explanations that have lead me to conclude that you aren't really fit for adminship in this wiki. Everyone bare with me as I have a lot to say little time to say it xD.
For starters, a lot of us are already aware of Newt's history on this wiki. Back in May he requested Discussions Moderator rights but his nomination was closed due to his conduct on other communities. This ultimately led to Newt Strike reporting our mod/admin team to a bureaucrat and from what I remember a few staff members on Fandom. However, each time he has applied for moderator rights on this wiki he has never really had a valid reason for doing so, which almost seems like he is only doing it for the permissions involved. For reference, this is my post against his nomination at the time. It lays out why I voted the way I did, featuring reasons such as him misusing his GDM permissions on Discussions, some of his off-wiki conduct, etc. He has also had a history of personally attacking mods/admins/users on the wiki in arguments in a hostile and aggressive manner.
Furthermore, there have been events recently that have definitely raised some red flags for me. Newt has apparently been using his Global Discussions Moderator rights to gain local user rights on communities, which is clearly an abuse of rights in itself. Several users on different wikis were unhappy about this, one of the wikis being Marvel Database. You can see in this post by Newt Strike that he had requested local privileges despite him having no contributions on the community at the time. Newt has done this several time now on many different wikis, including X-Men, Soul Knight, Rick and Morty, Dying Light, Disney, Batman, and probably several other wikis. These examples have me extremely worried when it comes to granting a user additional rights on such a big and complex wiki.
It is of my opinion that Newt's behavior on and off of the wiki is enough evidence for me to not be comfortable with this nomination going through. It has come to my attention that he has also been canvassing votes via Discord DMs, as reported to me by several users. This is in direct violation of our recently established User Rights Policy. Please keep these things in mind as you think through this nomination.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 17:09, October 6, 2020 (UTC)
A lot of my concerns have been brought up by Harrypotterexpert101 already. Newt Strike has on many occasions asked for rights on HPW, mostly Discussion Moderator rights and without any reason as to why they want them. The only explanations that I have ever seen him give are that he has been waiting for this opportunity for 3 years and that he deserves it. It is more like how Daenerys Targaryen of Game of Thrones says, "I was born to rule the 7 Kingdoms. The Iron Throne is my destiny." Well sorry to break your bubble Danny, but the 7 Kingdoms are ruled by worthy people now and the North has already been separated and lost. (Apologies to those who did not get that reference)
With that, I would like to also state that Newt has been abusing his position as a GDM for a very long time to gain access to local rights on wikis. Forcing and manipulating admins. Some examples have been listed by Harrypotterexpert101 and here are some more that I came across. Twilight Wiki, X-Men Wiki, Soul Knight Wiki, Dying Light Wiki, Disney Wiki, Batman Wiki, Maze Runner Wiki, Netflix Wiki, Rick and Morty Wiki, Spiderman Wiki 1, Spiderman Wiki 2, Tardis Wiki, Star Wars Wiki, Marvel Wiki and these are just the ones that I found and were done on wikis. We can't even verify for wikis where the same was done via private messages. Some of them were sent to me via a Discord DM from users of respective wikis asking if GDMs are even allowed to do this which was indeed embarrassing. Not to mention the blocks that Newt was given here and here for abusing his GDM rights.
I have also been informed that Newt has been asking users to show him support and asking them to vote for him. Violating policies already? As pointed out Newt has been denied rights more than 2 times on Discussions for his actions and I don't see how he would fit the role of Discussion focused Admin? Keeping all these facts, information, behaviours, and what seems to be potentially violating rules, abuse of rights, blocks, etc I think I can say that I oppose this nomination. Thanks! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   18:29, October 6, 2020 (UTC)
I don't believe trying to canvass votes from others users is a breach of policy. I believe it shows a high level of enthusiasm and drive, if nothing else. Therefore, I will vote in support of NewtStrike having a position of editorial power.--RedWizard98 (talk) 23:03, October 6, 2020 (UTC)
I believe very strongly that NewtStrike is an accomplished editor whose intentions are to improve and uphold high standards on the wiki. His desire to be a discussions moderator shows that he is clearly very determined and well-meaning. I think if any negative feelings have been created over past disputes, I believe it would be good for people to finish and resolve them. Newt is also a Fandom councillor and a global discussions moderator, which are both very impressive positions to hold and proof of his ability as an individual. I fully support his nomination.--RedWizard98 (talk) 01:55, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
Hi RedWizard98! Thanks for the reply. Just for clarification, my point was taken directly from our newly established User Rights policy. "Users are welcome to encourage other users to review a nomination and participate in the process, but should not canvass or request votes For or Against a nominee." Hope this helps! :D  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 23:29, October 6, 2020 (UTC)
As a reminder, Harry Potter Wiki:Administrators are, by definition, "expected to respect and be familiar with policy as they are known and trusted members of the community." Unfortunately, given Newt Strike's history here and elsewhere, it's clear that he does not meet these requirements. Canvassing users for support is directly against the policies as noted above. Just a brief review of Newt Strike's behavior on other sites shows established users there calling out his actions in the past few days as blatently a power grab and blatently disrespectful and other users having to defend their established democratic processes against his interference. I won't belabor the point, as there is much more that could be posted, but it should be clear that Newt Strike is not suited or qualified to be an admin by any measure. Sorry, but all the troubling behavior that undermined Newt's previous Discussion Mod nomination appears to only have gotten worse. --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:18, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

Responding to everyone,

1. Reverb frost has personal grudges with me cuz of which last time on my mod nomination post he wrote a long comment invading my character and asked Harrypotterexpert101 to post it on Dboard. I mean why? Why not post it yourself ? Cuz it's clear he has grudges with me just like how he explained Marc had grudges with him. That's the reason the concerns raised on my mod nomination post were result of this personal grudge. He mixed his personal problems with me and used it against me for wiki related works.

2. I asked people to give their opinion on my mod nomination post not to vote for me but to just cast a vote whether it is a "for" or "against" so I have not violated the policy.

3. I didn't abuse my GDM powers but rather used them to help out wikis which needed help by being a local mod on a long term basis instead of starting an assignment. So, pls stop saying that.

4. I have some health issues cuz of which I easily get triggered by others and lose my patience but now I'm recovering and ready to resolve any dispute or concern you might have for me.

5. As I said above Reverb frost stalks me which is abundantly clear here by how deeply he follows me on other communities. Recently he popped up on wikis like marvel, X-Men, Batman, Glitchtale, Spiderman after like 2 years or just as a first time contributor specially when I became a mod. I have complained about cyber stalking to staffs.

6. Because noone here knows the actual conflict between me annd Reverb, I would say listening to his concerns and his friends' concerns is pointless cuz their ultimate aim is to prevent me from gaining any rights here ever.

7. You must know because of this conflict, our WMs resolved the situation earlier and told him to be considerate about my nominations and donot use his personal grudges to stalk me and present me as a villian of the wiki.

8. As for marvel wiki, yak, you saw that one comment but didn't see the hundreds of comments I made for apology for not asking them before being a Dmod. You saw their concerns but not mine. I'm not really proud of that now. Apologies.

Thank you.

 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 05:21, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

Grudge: A strong feeling of anger and dislike for a person who you feel has treated you badly, especially one that lasts for a long time. That is the definition of Grudge taken from the Cambridge dictionary. Now you see it says the feeling of anger, dislike etc towards a person is the most essential ingredient for having grudge but here is he thing, I have no feelings or emotions towards you @Newt Strike. None. You are a user and so am I. You are requesting rights and I am doing my job by discussing certain topics related to you that help me and the community understand what is it that you stand for and will that help this community or not. There is nothing personal between you and me to make me mix personal with professional. Simple as that.
I have, in the capacity of Discord Admin for the Harry Potter Wiki Discord Server received multiple complaints from users stating that you have been asking them to show their support to you. I have a screenshot of said complaints with me. These are grounds for banning you (or any user for that matter) from HPWDS for canvassing votes, breaking wiki policies, trying to manipulate results of an admin vote! Newt Strike, GDMs are global users that help Dboards for a specified time of 3 months, help settle disputes if any, help nurture/guide a local user to be a DMod and run the wiki, help keep it clean and move on! We are not supposed to go around asking and in your case forcing and manipulating admins into giving you rights. That is a moral violation of GDM groups existence and a disgrace! Here are the wikis that you literally forced admins into giving you rights because you are a GDM, even tho you are not an active user there. On Twilight Wiki, then on Batman Wiki, here on Maze Runner Wiki, on Rick and Morty Wiki, here on Spiderman Wiki we can see Newt asking new mods to report to him when all 3 of them are Discussion mods. Then here on Spiderman Wiki again we see Newt asking a user to adopt the wiki and in exchange give him Admin rights! And once again on Spiderman Wiki we can see Newt forcing the admins to give him admin rights by using his GDM title even tho they are not satisfied in giving him the rights. On Tardis Wiki we see how without any qualifications Newt forces himself on the wiki to be given admin rights again using the title of GDM. The request was squashed by an admin who also happens to be a FANDOM staff with reasons: Invalid request. Users's contributions on Tardis are nowhere near what's needed for adminship. On Star wars wiki where he again uses his GDM title to get local rights and also makes a misleading comment that makes it seem like the admins are ok with his appointment whereas the only thing that the admins said was, Discussions are separate from wiki so go talk to a Dmod. Simple. But he says, and I quote I already talked to an admin and they sent me to Dmods. And now on Marvel Wiki where Newt forced the admins again based on his GDM title. Even tho the admins kept on saying that he must talk to a Dmod since Discussions are not something admins there take part in, he kept on going till the admin gave it and changed his rights. And I can go on and on about this because the list never ends but I think I have already linked few others above.
Stalking: To follow an animal or person as closely as possible without being seen or heard. Again as per the Cambridge Dictionary Stalking means closely following a person, (in this case, as per Newt's accusations, Newt). I was not following Newt at all. Some of the above-mentioned wikis like Batman Wiki, Spiderman Wiki have been my GDM assignments and some others that I personally helped on request from local admins or mods. It is a standard practice to look out for wikis, and make sure they aren't being spammed, attacked etc. How is my checking out wikis and making occasional comments stalking Newt is beyond me! And if looking around for some activities by an admin candidate and bringing forth the truth of their misdeeds is stalking then I don't know what will we call verification and background check. Honestly, it feels like I am having to do class 6th all over again. Explaining the meaning of "big words" again and again. Lol. With that I can say that Newt Strike has slandered me and by extension been libel. This is not acceptable behaviour from any user let alone a user who wishes to be an Admin. And thank you for reporting me I guess? Making accusations is one thing and proving it is another. There was no "Stalking", just making sure that how much you have improved since the last time you made a nomination and the results shocked me that the situation has actually worsened 10 folds!
Because noone here knows the actual conflict between me annd Reverb, I would say listening to his concerns and his friends' concerns is pointless cuz their ultimate aim is to prevent me from gaining any rights here ever. So let me get this straight, "Ignore all criticism towards me and just listen to me and my supporters." I get reminded of the scene from HP when Snape escapes the Great Hall and Argus Filtch waltz in shouting "Students out of bed! Students out of bed! Students out of bed!" and Prof. McGonagall replies, "They are supposed to be out of bed you blithering idiot." Again taken from the Cambridge Dictionary Criticism: An opinion given about something or someone, esp. a negative opinion, or the activity of making such judgments and all the opinions given above are conclusions based on the facts that have been highlighted. Basically users doing what they are supposed to be doing.
Now you mention Marvel Wiki, So here is an example that helps me interpret the situation better: "Your honour, I am sorry I stabbed that man(link maybe deleted), I won't do it again, I promise!" A few moments later, "Your honour I promise I won't repeat the same mistake again!", A few moments later "Well we meet again Your honour! I promise this will be last!" That said you say that I have grudges against you, right? What about Harrypotterexpert101, Ironyak1, Seth Cooper, Sam Hermoine, the denied request by the admins of Tardis wiki, the conversation and complaints of various users on Marvel Wiki, and here as well(link maybe deleted)? For a second even if we assume that I may have grudges against you which is not true, are you actually implying that all these users are against you as well? Really? Just above in my nomination, Wiki Manager TimeShade made a comment and you greeted him with this reply. So are you the only right person here? Is everyone else wrong in showing your mis deeds and highlighting why you can't be an admin here? Thanks! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   08:33, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
You keep on saying that you "deserve" these rights and justify it with comments like this. You consider everyone to be wrong and yourself to be the only "right" individual, you consider everyone your inferior and yourself the only superior being, you "hate" all the staff members on this wiki and consider this wiki as well as FANDOM as a whole, corrupt and then you also want to get rights on every wiki possible as well as run those sites. I am honestly having a really hard time to understand what is it that you want? And that concerns me how the wiki and the community will turn out. --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   08:54, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Reverb for your insight. Apart from saying that I just wanted to help out those wikis, there is nothing really for me to add. As for asking for votes, screenshots don't matter at all on here cuz if that mattered you would not have been nominated by Ironyak1 here after what I showed her on discord. I think we all now can stop here. I'm ready to hear more concerns but it just felt to be escalating a bit. Thnx.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 13:42, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I'm just checking in as this seems to be escalating.

Newt, a nomination should allow for any recent history to be brought up. I was made aware of the situation over the weekend. While the timing may be suspicious, Reverb didn't cross any lines in their contributions on those communities.

As I had noted previously, I'd like to remind everyone to remain civil while raising concerns.

That said, I think HPE101 and Reverb frost shared quite a lot already. I'd request that the two step back from this nomination before it escalates any further.—TIMESHADE |Talk/Wall| - |C| 09:48, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough request. I think the community needs time to process in the information and perhaps verify it as well before anything more is added to the already long list. I will take a step back and let the community process the information because it took me quite some time to process all this information and they were hard to digest and believe. Thanks for your valuable input! --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   15:46, October 7, 2020 (UTC)

I support, SecretSpyer (talk) 18:52, October 6, 2020 (UTC)

While I have no issue with Newt Strike, personally, the above gives me some serious reservations in supporting this nomination — I have to say I don't. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 12:54, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
Hello Seth, I'm glad to see you here. I'm surprised you managed to give your opinion even being quit busy. Anyway, I just want to say that my helpfulness here were turned into abuse of GDM power and my words were twisted to reflect me in a negative manner. But even after knowing about Reverb's grudges against me you don't support this nomination then I sincerely apologise for my behavior. I promise my work here don't get influenced however or whatever I'm being shown on other communities. I have always been a helping and huge in-depth contributor here on the harry Potter wiki. Pls judge me on my actions on here and as a regular user not on other communities or me being a GDM. Hope you will change your mind and support my nomination. Cheers!
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 13:37, October 8, 2020 (UTC)

I support this nomination, newt has always been very helpful    P r a t s    Talk Here  Prarthana Modi (talk) 11:10, October 10, 2020 (UTC)

I’m gonna say this unpopular opinion but moral support for Newt Strike on this. I’m interested in seeing a trial period to see how things turn out.

He’s been doing ok in helping out in discussions. As for the power grab on other wikis, the issue has been resolved, for the most part, but still concerning. MechQueste 14:01, October 10, 2020 (UTC)

With all due respect, I don't see any of the concerns or questions being answered. Newt Strike has dealt in bad faith and many other allegations as listed above. Unless the questions are addressed, I don't see this nomination being accepted by the community tbh. --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   18:00, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
Hi Reverb, what questions do you think are still left for me to address? I think with those numbered points I answered to all the questions and allegations pointed by you or Dave or Yak and firmly believe I have resolved the issue not only here but also on the GDM channel where several users complained about me. So- yes issue has bbeen resolved. But I'm willing to answer more questions only the problem is you are acting based on your grudges and Timeshade has well warned you to step back from this nomination. So pls can you take a step back? Thnx.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 19:25, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
You have been misusing GDM tools on wikis. 2 of which you were banned from as linked above. You never explained why you misued your status to get local rights, forcing admins. And no saying that "I wanted to help the communities" is not an answer. It's nonsense. You wanted to help, you would follow GDM protocol and get those communities as a GDM assignment. You have violated our HPW:UR policy by canvassing votes. You literally hate every single wiki staff. You never explained why the community should have you as an admin. You get the rights and privileges, but what does the community benefit from this? When User:Sam Hermione was being elected as Dmod weeks after your rejection, you took it upon yourself to add so much hate in asking questions to her. You made the professional post personal. You very well know that wiki matters stay on wiki, yet you went ahead behind the backs of the community to Admin, Professors Toffy and told him half the issue and had them nominate you as Dmod on HPW. Again Gaming the system. As is a standard practice Toffy came and asked the Dmods and we informed them of the true issues and they did not take the matter any further. You have been bending and twisting every single thing this community and the GDMs stand for. Why do you think after all this you should be given admin perms on HPW?
That said Wiki Manger did make that request as a temporary cool off. They (with all due respect) cannot stop a perfectly eligible users from participating in nomination. And why would they? Just because the questions being raised are harming your chances of being an admin because your truth is being exposed? No. They were just trying to mediate a cool off period. And Newt in all your replies, all you say is "Reverb hates me. Reverb has grudge against me." I'm afraid that's not an answer. Out of the 5 points that you made, you used 2-3 just saying that all users raising concerns here have grudge against you while every single opposition is backed up with proof and reasons. Thanks. --latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   19:52, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I recently talked to Timeshade and I was made aware that I should have informed him when I was blocked for taking GDM actions on hp wiki so that he could help me cuz the most actions I took was 10 and there were Fandom ToU violations as well which we are allowed to take actions on. Plus on maze runner, you were the bureacrat who blocked me obviously cuz of your grudge rather than fairness. Your mod lied that I harrased them on Wattpad and on being asked they simply get triggered and lose their temper without actually answering their question. I was just asking you to give credits for my post which you were using on TMR but you warned me twice not thrice and then unfairly blocked me. Give me proof you warned me thrice. Plus you were yourself were abusing GDM powers by undoing what I had deleted after I was made a bureacrat there but you were unblocked saying it's not really feasible so was the case of my block by Ironyak1.
I was not forcing admins to give me rights but requesting them. Some accepted while some refused and yes- my intentions were only to help. It might seem non sense to you but not for me as I have explained to Eva and she has accepted my apology so we are far from that now. I don't hate any staff but it's you who hate me and that's clear with your essay long attacking comments. You just want to provoke me in doing something stupid but I have matured, man.
Also I merely asked some valid questions to Sam and didn't show any hate to her. It's your perspective not mine. ProfessorTofty is part of this wiki so I'm free to contact an admin if I feel my concerns are not being addressed by other admins. Let me repeat myself I asked for opinions not for votes so I didn't violate any policy.
What does the community benefit from you as an admin? Same is the answer for me. I can handle Discussions much better and effectively and keep an eye on the board for a prolonged period of time. I can help out the members create their js pages and make them aware about wiki editing. I can help the editors in answering their queries much faster and I can as an admin take care of the main site as well alongwith Discussions.
The Wiki Manager warned you last time as well to be considerate about my nominations yet you feel the right to meddle with my case again and again. And that was not a temporary cool off, you assumed it to be one but it was supposed to be a full stop for your baseless arguments. I hope I have answered your questions. Thnx.
 Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 02:10, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
Just wanted to clarify Newt Strike's first point- please see these two links: Ironyak1's talk page, Newt Strike's talk page.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 16:59, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I'm checking in again. My request that both step away wasn't meant to be a temporary cool off. My intention isn't to prevent you voicing concerns, but that a lot was already brought to the table. Anymore could lead to it escalating further which I'm sure none of us wants.—TIMESHADE |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:41, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
Hi TimeShade - so unless a user is being uncivil, the Harry Potter Wiki has no policies that would limit anyone's participation in this process, with the exception of the recently voted-in Harry Potter Wiki:User Policy that "Users ineligible to vote are able to comment during the discussion, but should not attempt to overly influence or dominate the conversation." While I can appreciate a reminder to remain civil and avoid personal attacks, "Users engaging in debate is an essential part of the culture of the Harry Potter Wiki", a principle literally written into the fabric of this community for over a decade, as reasonable, even if spirited, discourse works best to uncover facts and clarify underlying reasoning. The suggestion that facts and information should be stifled because a user may choose to react poorly to them runs contrary both to the policies in place as well as the community's interest and essential need in reaching an understanding of any proposal, including a nomination. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:24, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
Newt Strike also got in touch with me on my talk page, asking if I'd pitch in and whether or not I agreed with everyone. I don't really know either Newt Strike or the situation, but as an neutral third party looking in, I can't pretend that Harrypotterexpert101 didn't make a very good case. And the only justification Newt gave me for why he wanted mod powers was that he deserved it. I for one, if asked to throw my five cents in the pot, would say I'm against the nomination. Although I'm certain there would be other members currently participating in this discussion, Newt, that would be happy to hear you out if you care to repeat why exactly it is you think you deserve special priviliges here?- Tfoc
PS:
The button for signatures seem to be missing when I posted this, and when I tried using those lines, it did nothing. If a staff or other member knows what I did wrong and could fill me in on my talk page, it'd be much appreciated. :-)
Hmm do you use source editor? Worst case scenario you could just use wiki-text to produce a signature (something along the lines of [[User:Tfoc|Tfoc]] [[User talk:Tfoc|(talk)]]).  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 00:17, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

I would agree with the assessment that the questions and issues raised have not been addressed but instead have attempted to be dismissed as being bias or inconsequential. I didn't read "that one comment" but rather multiple threads across various communities that had a similar refrain of concern and denunciation. I think it overkill to list them all out here, especially given the unwillingness to actually address them, but your disruptive actions are clearly not an isolated incident. The fact that there has to be a conversation in the "GDM channel where several users complained about me" only underscores the common disagreement with your actions, and cannot be just the interpretation of an individual with a grudge. When several users spread across several different communities all reach the same conclusion about, and objections to, your actions, there is obviously some merit to their shared perspective and disapproval. --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:55, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

Ironyak1,I'm happy to answer your questions. Yes, it's true that I should not have asked for local rights on those communities which now I think was quite immature of me to do that but trust me my intentions were only to help out those wikis but even though I apologise for my actions and can guarantee such a thing would not happen in future. Pls judge me based on my actions here not on other communities. Thnx.  Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 02:33, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

To address the lengthy response you deleted, and which I am certain an admin will restore shortly as per wiki policy about editing talk pages and the likes, I would argue that asking me to pitch in on your denomination and insisting that you deserve mod priviliges does in fact constitute an indirect request for my vote. That said, I would also like to contend with the notion that you answered Ironyak1's questions, let alone that you did or are doing so "happily." What you did, was going on a petty, whiny rant, implying that Ironyak1 is an incompetent mod and suggesting you would be better at his/her job than they are. A claim I have, to put it at its mildest, been given every reason to. - Tfoc

Firstly thank you for your opinion. Secondly, I didn't delete my response but someone else was editing this page at the same time when I was doing which resulted in its deletion and I was about to restore it when I saw its already restored. Thirdly, according to our policy we are allowed to ask people about their opinions and participate in the votings so I didn't break any policy by asking you your opinion neither did I indirectly try to gain your vote. I'm sure there are lots of people to vote for me but they are not interested in arguing so when my voting will start ik I won't be dissapointed. Lastly, please donot take my words as rants or anything and nothing did I say that implied I'm saying Ironyak1 is incompetent for the job. Thnx.  Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 07:51, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

If you don't see how rudely asking Ironyak1 "what the community benefit from having you as an admin?" is an implication of incompetence, and how your unfounded assertion that "you can handle Discussions much better and effectively," or that saying that you "can help the editors in answering their queries much faster," isn't an implication of incompetence, then I don't know what to tell you; other than the fact that I think you owe Ironyak1 a heartfelt apology. - Tfoc

I didn't ask that question to Ironyak but to Reverb frost. Pls check the context before putting allegations on me. If you feel my words are coming out that way then I sincerely apologise to ironyak my intentions were not to put her down so pls donot twist my words to produce a complete different meaning. Thank you. Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 10:55, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

RE: "I didn't delete my response but someone else was editing this page at the same time when I was doing which resulted in its deletion" - A full 15 minutes passed between the previous edit of the page and the edit that deleted Yak's message; granted, your message was quite long, so I suppose it could've taken that long to write, however usually in the event of an edit conflict you are prevented from publishing and told that someone else edited the page, as a means to prevent such a deletion from accidentally occurring.

Furthermore, you also proceeded to delete your own message as well, which also had to be restored. With all due respect, it is pretty basic policy knowledge that such an action is not allowed, and I for one would expect someone hoping to become administrator to have full familiarity with our policies. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:42, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

@Tfoc - with the messages being added, deleted, restored, and moved around I can understand the confusion, but I do believe Newt's message was intended for Reverb frost if that makes a difference in your objection.
I do agree though with the above that a nominee for an admin should have the basics down regarding the policies and how to post on Talk pages without cutting out messages and properly handling edit conflicts and such. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 12:47, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
Just an FYI, to both you and @MSB that I'm using a mobile device to edit which makes editing a bit difficult for me but that doesnot mean I am unaware of policies or can't handle edit conflicts plus I'm mostly here to gain rights for Discussion. Thnx. Newt Strike   Talk   Contribs 13:21, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

My bad, then. Personally speaking, it changes things a little bit since I'm more familiar with you than I am with Reverb frost, so it reduces how passionately this protest feels at the time of writing, but ethically speaking, no, it changes nothing, as far as I'm concerned. Sorry if I'm overstepping by saying this, Ironyak1, because I know I'm not a moderator or anything, and have no business moderating behavior, but since this is a matter of principle for me, I'm going to say it anyway, and then a staff can berate me on my talk page afterwards:

You should apologise to Reverb frost, then. Whatever beef you have with him has no place in this discussion, and blatant displays of haughty impertinence have no place in any discussion between adults.

That sort of BS don't fly here, is what I'm saying. And with that, I bow out of the discussion from hereon out. - Tfoc

i dunno they sound like they like to argue --Dragonfly2178 (talk) 20:02, October 11, 2020 (UTC)

In reviewing the information regarding the nominee, it seems impossible to ignore or dismiss the several people across various FANDOM communities that have raised objections to the nominee's disruptive actions in recent weeks. Having been in a similar predicament with the nominee in the past, I understand the frustration that comes from the nominee's insistence on using their global rights to interfere with a community even when asked repeatedly not to do so. Also of serious concern, several users have reported that the nominee has directly contacted them and asked them to vote in support of their nomination, directly violating the very policies that an Administrator is required to uphold. It should also be clear that a nominee for administrator shouldn't have to be informed of how to properly handle a Talk page without deleting other messages, or ask how the basics of the Harry Potter Wiki:Voting policy works. With all this in mind, and in accordance with the User Rights policy - Request for permissions (RFP) process, I am denying opening a vote on this nomination based on strong objections to the nominee's qualifications and their actions. The nominee is able to petition other Harry Potter Wiki:Administrators to hold a vote for them, with the understanding that any denial to do so based on an objection of the nominee will close the current nomination for further consideration. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 20:12, October 12, 2020 (UTC)


For

  1. I support this nomination. Newt has always been a great moderator, willing to help out all the time, shutting things down when they need to be, and taking care of things in a friendly, yet official way. I think Newt would be an excellent administrator, and he would use his experience as a mod wisely. - Wiz Herondale-Carstairs
  2. *when wiz took the words right out of your fingers* Alright so, long story short, I think that Newt would make an excellent admin on the Harry Potter Wiki. Why? Well, let's make this story long: Newt is a very experienced moderator/admin. I've seen him on the Disney and The Hunger Games wiki, and he's phenomenal. He's an organized person [just look at the Hunger Games tournament he made] and he always makes everyone feel included. He's got what it takes to be an admin. ~~~~Broadway Blackthorn1234
  3. I also support this nomination! I think Newt will be an amazing administrator for many reasons. He has always been very helpful and kind, he knows how to manage well, and by becoming an administrator, Newt can use his experience to help the wiki. (Basically what wiz said!) -Bookworm1118
  4. I'm for this nomination. Newt has a lot of experience already and he seems to know the ins and outs of the wiki very well. He's organized and knows to shut things down when they get out of hand. - Eddietheflamingo
  5. Newt didn't really try to "Force" them for user rights, at least and that's what a rival will said, He is just intruding his experience SecretSpyer (talk) 17:03, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Newt is very hardworking and he is always helpful and friendly. Prarthana Modi (talk) 06:24, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
  7. What everyone else said above. I support this nomination! -Ida.Ari

Against

  1. On account of the fact that Newt Strike's initial request to have voting opened for his nomination as an admin was denied for the overwhelming number of good reasons cited above, I'd like to vote against the nomination. - Tfoc
  2. -latest?cb=20200717054417  Reverb frost   11:10, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Against, for all the reasons mentioned above. It is also worth noting that there is a high possibility that the Organising Admin for this vote was misled into opening the vote, as they were not given the full picture of this request for rights and its background, all they were told was how to open the vote. Who knows whether they would have agreed to open it had they been properly informed of the many objections and concerns raised against this user. Also, we Discord server staff have received reports from users on the server that Newt private messaged them to ask them to support him, in direct violation of policy, likely also without giving those users the full picture, and as a result he as been banned from the Discord Server for violation of the User Rights policy and Discord policy. It is understandable that there is a lot of text above to read in order to get the full picture, but is very important to fully understand what you're voting for. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:43, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  4. Against, for the reasons stated above and the violation of policies in the Discord server(bringing wiki business, that too, something like this into the server). Also, I feel it's a little unfair DMing users for the vote and asking them to spread the message to vote as most of the users doesn't know how the voting and staff permissions work. Compelling and persuading users to vote for him doesn't seem right, especially when it's the case that they don't know much about voting for rights.I feel like this request for permission is being hurried by Newt Strike, when actually, things like this should be taken slowly, after all it's the future of the wiki as he's asking for Admin rights.Being ambitious is good, but it has it's limits too,I feel Newt is being too curious and ambitious about this, so I don't have a good feeling that it will be enough to take care of a wiki as an Admin. Also, I think the wiki is being handled well in terms of administration and need not require any major changes like rights to users, so I don't see why Administrator rights are being asked. Added to this is the opening of this vote, like MrSiriusBlack said. It's more confusing as to why the vote is being opened,with the barriers and issues.Thank you ~Sam Hermione 14:37, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  5.  Harrypotterexpert101  Talk       GDM.svg Council.svg Vanguard.svg 15:36, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Against After reading the above mentioned resons I have concluded that for now I don't think Newt Strike is capable of admin rights. But if In future, Newt improves and works on the above given reasons. I will surely reconsider my decision. But for now it's a No. #K Kraken talk 9:32, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  7. No, he asked me to vote via Discord, which I am against, most points make actual sense, and he did some quite embarrassing stuff, like allegedly abusing power, so no from me. Maybe in a few months, when he has proved himself, I may vote yes.  DragonBallZ050Talk 16:08, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Against. Let me make one thing clear: I have got no personal grudges or problems with Newt Strike at all. But seeing the above conversation and keeping in mind a couple of past instances, I believe that Newt should improve upon the grounds of the above listed reasons, especially being well-versed with the Wiki policies before being entrusted with a responsibility as crucial as the Administrator of a large Wiki such as this. Thanks --     TheHacktivist42         talk       contribs    17:17, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  9. While I have no particular insight into Newt Strike or their editing behaviour, the fact that there has been so much discussion generated by it currently speaks for itself. Regardless of whether or not Newt Strike is a capable and competent editor who can do good for the wiki, it is obvious that adding them to the admin team at this point will cause more division than unity. Politely worded arguments are happening in this thread that would, inevitably, spill out into the wider wiki. Given the back and forth over the new policies that have just been committed to, stability is needed. At this point, I would encourage Newt Strike to set themselves to the task of proving their detractors wrong and reapplying after a suitable time has passed.--Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 18:18, October 13, 2020 (UTC)

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