Wonderbook games
Should the Wonderbook games be considered Tier One or Tier Two? Personally, I'd place them under Tier One, since the new information in them comes directly from J. K. Rowling, even if the manner in which that information is presented (i.e., the video games) was created by another party. I sort of consider it to be the equivalent of Pottermore, in that JKR wrote all the new information, but the website was designed by other people. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 17:22, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
- If the information comes from J.K. Rowling, then regardless of the method of presentation, they're the top tier source. J.K Rowling's word is law and it always supercedes everything else. --Sajuuk 17:24, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
- Except JKR has said she wrote the information on the Famous Wizard Cards. Which, presumably, means the real-world trading cards that were released with the licensed product Chocolate Frogs they used to have, as well as the Famous Wizard Cards featured in the early video games. But both the video games and the trading cards have always been under Tier Three, and I'm hesitant to shake up that order. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 17:31, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
What about adding The original Famous Wizard cards "Tier One: J. K. Rowling", etc.
What about:
- The Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (film) might be release in DVD in a Special Edition or Extended Cut featuring new material (story + dialogue) from J. K. Rowling herself that did not ended in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them: The Original Screenplay. Will this new material be part of tier-one?
- Same thing for Bonus Deleted or Extended Scenes as well. They should probably have the same status than unpublished materials created by Rowling (such as http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/category:Articles_derived_from_cut_content, early drafts or http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Ghost_Plots.
--FrenchPygmyPuff (talk) 17:07, November 25, 2016 (UTC)
Notes
Cursed Child story vs Cursed Child script
"Cursed Child story" is tier 1 while Cursed Child script is tier 2? What exactly is the distinction being made here? --Ironyak1 (talk) 07:21, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
Bumping - can someone please explain where the Tier-1 "Cursed Child story" stops and the Tier-2 "Cursed Child script" begins? --Ironyak1 (talk) 00:28, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
- I know that making a distinction between the story vs. the whole text itself is weird. We can assume that if Rowling wanted to write a book set after the events of Cursed Child, she would based her work on it. Of course it's just a supposition. The dialogues are clearly not from her but what is happening in the books was co-developed by her. So for example: to me the Delphini's existence is tier-one canon. Her dialogues are not. Albus Potter and Scorpius Malefoy being in Slytherin and friends is tier-one canon but what they talk about is not. She also tweeted that she considers the story canon. Some reports also suggest that JKR went on board after meeting with Jack Thorne and John Tiffany and gave them material. This link might interest you FrenchPygmyPuff (talk) 00:59, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
- It is a difficult one because the play was not written by her. We don't know what her original idea was and what material Thorne and Tiffany added. We don't know what characters were made up by them. I think it is safe to assume a lot of it wasn't created by her and she didn't write the dialogue, along with the plot holes Rowling would probably not have created had she wrote it herself. However, they marketed it as the eighth story most likely so they could get a lot more interest in it, Rowling said she thinks it is canon and the main law we have on the wikia is that her word is highest level of canon we have. We can't start picking which parts we like the look of and what parts we don't based on how absurd we find it. Until Rowling retracts what she said, which I don't think she ever will unfortunately because it will upset everyone else involved in the play, everything in the play has to be tier one canon. Yes, Rowling probably didn't write the dialogue, but how can you be certain she invented Delphi as well? When she approved the play by declaring it canon, she approved everything. Kates39 (talk) 11:46, January 12, 2017 (UTC)