SUGGESTION: "No Mini-Modding"[]
I formally regret what I have done here and here, now realizing this can indeed be considered a semi-personal attack. Because according to these Fandom Wiki networks (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and many others across the FANDOM platform), there is also a policy called "Mini-Modding". Since each network words the definition of this policy differently, I'm going to paraphrase them all into one: "Mini-Modding is the unauthorized action where a person who has no special rights acts like they are an admin or content moderator. This includes, but is not limited to: threatening to get other users blocked, negatively criticizing their work (i.e. edits or other contributions), etc. Users mini-mod for several possible reasons—because they have been on this wiki for so long they think they can assume control over other newer, non-staff users, or simply because they just think they feel entitled to deserving authoritative rights. Actual admins and moderators really dislike mini-mods since they are "doing their job" and users who have experienced one against them may very well lead to arguments and aggressiveness, as they feel they are being ruled by users who have no "real" authority. Mini-Modding can be especially harmful to newcomers to Fandom networks or Wikis because it leaves a very bad first impression on them and creates a very unwelcoming environment (EVERYONE should assume good faith towards each other, especially at the very first glance)—NO newcomer would like to see one of the first messages as "You are getting blocked/banned!" received on their User Talk page or FANDOM Message Wall." The Mini-Modding policy also applies to discussions communities or trivia sections of other FANDOM wikis' article pages (for instance, like ours, e.g. "I'm reporting your post to the moderators and will personally ensure your post is deleted/locked!"; this right here is a threatening message in nature).
If one finds another user's behavior concerning or suspicious, they may submit a request and report the problem here at RFAA instead of personally lashing out at them with harsh criticism. Mini-Modding is currently something that is not an existing rule in our Policy page yet, so I can infer this is still an ongoing issue; I've recently been maliciously threatening others with my angry tone and RedWizard98 also does this quite often (though to a much lesser extent than I had just started doing). While I myself say that we, the HPW, can make an exception of telling other users they should or shouldn't be doing/have done something (as long as we're—I should say—"using a calm and collected tone") and use the RFAA to report them, the final decision of action to be taken is ultimately up to the administrators, bureaucrats, or staff member of higher ranking assigned to our wiki (like staff member Cavalier One or Wiki Representative like Lady Lostris). While issuing constructive critisism towards another user, something that is acceptable would be like "Hello, please refrain from deleting sections from [[article page in question:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]. If you think something is incorrect, please request to change it instead of removing it yourself. You have been given several warnings on this so please follow the rules accordingly, otherwise potential administrative actions may have to be taken." and something considered NOT acceptable would be "STOP deleting things off [[article page in question:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]! That is enough of you making grotesque, vandalizing edits! I'm now reporting you to the staff members and personally ensure your Fandom account is terminated!"
Please look into this talk message about "Mini-Modding" and take my request into consideration. Thanks! -
Delaney Wang Talk Activity 05:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC) ;)
- Personally, I am quite okay with the approach our wiki and policies take. However, adding the "mini-mod" topic to the policy is not a bad idea. Still, I disagree that minor mistakes that can be rectified (such as unauthorized action where a person who has no special rights acts like they are an admin or content moderator) should be dealt with so seriously. Moreover, these scenarios are highly susceptible to vulnerabilities and loopholes. I (and the other members, I’m certain) do not wish to see minor issues snowball into major ones. What if a user, having been cautioned about their unproductive edits, leverages the NPA to assert that the cautioning party is engaging in mini-modding? What if a user is unfairly subjected to reporting due to a lack of awareness regarding their rights? For these reasons, I advocate for the inclusion of mini-modding in the policy, but object to its classification as a form of personal attack.
- Nevertheless, I believe this matter should be discussed further after the policy update session has ended. Thanks. - Peregino (talk) 05:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is no such thing as "mini-modding" on this wiki and there shall not be. All users have the perfect right to remind others of the policy and revert disruptive edits to help out, but falsely claiming you have authority you do not have, is inappropriate and dishonest.
- And to be honest, Delaney Wang, your behaviour has been beyond inappropriate and intimidating to new users, so you really have zero authority to suggest changes to the no personal attacks policy, as you don't appear to have any understanding of it and have violated it quite severely recently, for which you've been blocked for three days. I also find it very ironic that you want to see "mini-modding" somehow prohibited, when all you've done lately is inappropriately threaten to report users to Fandom staff for minor disruptive editing. RedWizard98 (talk) 22:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)