Picture
how do we know that picture is of Fiendfyre? Me_Potter_Fan 05:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- We don't. I'm going to hide it until someone can source. The Chosen One (Choose me!) 14:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- True, we don't know if it is. Would it be more appropriate to leave in the "Voldemort may have used Fiendfyre in OotP" line and include the picture if the caption reads "A spell used by Voldemort resembling the effects of Fiendfyre."? Kyouraku-taichou 20:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- It is possible to get an update right now? I don't want to update it, even with the given caption, if the community disagrees. Kyouraku-taichou 18:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- True, we don't know if it is. Would it be more appropriate to leave in the "Voldemort may have used Fiendfyre in OotP" line and include the picture if the caption reads "A spell used by Voldemort resembling the effects of Fiendfyre."? Kyouraku-taichou 20:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Incantation
Since when is Fiendfyre the incantation? Am i seriously forgetting something because i don't recall him ever saying this out loud but merely the spell being termed this by Hermione after the fact. <--- Mafalda H, who can't log in (computer slowness).
- You're right. There is no mention of Crabbe speaking an incantation in DH31. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 21:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- incantatation for Fiendfyre should be Pyrus which is a word for fire —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.95.138.164 (talk • contribs).
- Verifiable sources only, please. - Nick O'Demus 10:37, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
Dumbledore
is it possible that dumbledore uses it in the horcrux cave with the inferi all it is described shown as is a giant ring of fire. P€|\|δ\/!|\|$£@|\|₁⁰₁ 15:43, September 5, 2009 (UTC) Penguinsfan101
- i was thinking the same, this should definitely be fiendfyre as well... but we will know in the 8th movie =) 85.127.83.183 20:18, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure. Fiendfyre is powerful dark magic. Dumbledore wouldn't use that. It was probably just a strong version of Incendio. Rob Carrow 01:20, March 9, 2010 (UTC) Rob Carrow
- dumbledore did have the elder wand but he was involved in dark magic
Fred & George vs. Umbridge
I remember from Order of the Phoenix that Fred and George disrupted Umbridge's class and a fiery snake chased Umbridge. Why isn't that mentioned? SeanWheeler 22:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
- It wasn't fiendfyre, they had set off all of their fireworks, and some of them had taken the form of dragons, that chased Umbridge, although in the movie I think it looked more like a snake, but either way they were fireworks. --BachLynn23 22:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
I just read the chapter when Crabbe uses Fiendfyre. I dont know about what you think but to me it sounded like a completly cheap way for Rowling to figure out how the horcrux would be destroyed. It just happened and Hermoine just states "its one of hte ways to destroy a horcrux as if her mere word is suppose to make it sensical and believable. Alot like how she plainly states "Oh yeah i never told you? Snitches can hold human memories" which never before was stated but we are expected to think it makes sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.83.180.91 (talk • contribs).
- And then the thing with The Trace. If that was in place on Moldyshorts then the Ministry should have known it was him killing his family and not Uncle Morfin. I think Dumbledore even said that the Ministry can't detect who performs the magic just that it is performed (or something like that) yet this is contradicted by The Trace in book 7.--WarGrowlmon18 03:57, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
- He's right. I think Tom used Morfin's wand, if memory serves me correct. So they believe it was Morfin who killed the Riddles, not Tom. --KiumaruHamachi 04:12, January 2, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
- You are correct as Tom used Morfin's wand, along with the fact that Morfin had already spent time in Azkaban for crimes against muggles, all they had to do was perform that prior spell thingy to show the last spells cast by the wand. --BachLynn
(Accio!) 04:16, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
- The spell in question is Prior Incantato. Using this spell, you see the last spell used by the caster. --KiumaruHamachi 04:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
- But they should've detected Tom perform spells. At the very least the stunning spell and the memory one. He did that with his own wand.--WarGrowlmon18 04:26, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
- That is true.--KiumaruHamachi 04:33, January 2, 2011 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi
- This is how I look at it, I see "the trace" as like say a smoke detector, it's like a spell of sorts that they put on underage wizards that "detects" magic being performed in their vicinity. They also keep records of where wizards live, because the magic was "detected" near morfin, who was already jailed once for crimes against muggles, whose wand performed the spells that killed the Riddles, and whose memory had been modified so that Morfin himself believed he had killed the Riddles, so with all that evidence why would the MoM care that the underage detector had gone off in the area, they already had a confession, and just because the trace went off all they would know for sure is that an underage wizard had been nearby when the magic was performed. --BachLynn(Accio!) 04:38, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
- This is how I look at it, I see "the trace" as like say a smoke detector, it's like a spell of sorts that they put on underage wizards that "detects" magic being performed in their vicinity. They also keep records of where wizards live, because the magic was "detected" near morfin, who was already jailed once for crimes against muggles, whose wand performed the spells that killed the Riddles, and whose memory had been modified so that Morfin himself believed he had killed the Riddles, so with all that evidence why would the MoM care that the underage detector had gone off in the area, they already had a confession, and just because the trace went off all they would know for sure is that an underage wizard had been nearby when the magic was performed. --BachLynn
- The spell in question is Prior Incantato. Using this spell, you see the last spell used by the caster. --KiumaruHamachi 04:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
