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Comsidering that the image is not in-universe, I'd suggest moving it the BTS section. What do you think? Maybe with an editor's note in the infobox explaining why it is in the BTS section.Rodolphus (talk) 11:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Seconded. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  12:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Whelp, just saw someone asking the image to be altered to appear passable in-universe. I don't know about you guys, but personally I'm against that idea. As mentioned above, I'm totally fine with image outside the infobox when that's obviously where most applicable, but some people aren't fond of that idea. Hopefully there'd be a visible majority in this case. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 13:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I've asked Seth Cooper to potentially help if he is able, but all that needs doing really is the image needs altering as to remove the The Wizarding World of Harry Potter logo from the cup. I know he has done this before with other The Wizarding World of Harry Potter drink images, and if anyone else is familiar with photo editing programs (like Photoshop, for example), they can feel free to alter the image to make it more suitable. I myself will also attempt to use Photoshop for the first time. RedWizard98 (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm sorry what? Since when were fan-altered images acceptable for mainstream use? -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  22:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I did not suggest altering images was acceptable in most, if not almost all situations. However, for your information, Seth Cooper did alter a very similar image merely to remove a The Wizarding World of Harry Potter logo from it, as stated here https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/File:OttersFizzyOrangeJuice.png. RedWizard98 (talk) 22:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I only saw this discussion after having already uploaded the most recent revision of File:FishyGreenAle.png, with the The Wizarding World of Harry Potter logo digitally removed from the cup. I (obviously) have no objections to it, since it's a fairly minor alteration that does not undermine the main purpose of the image, which is to provide an accurate visual representation of the subject (as opposed to, say, changing the colour of the drink to red — or adding a moustache to a picture of Snape). But if there is significant opposition, it can certainly be reverted. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:36, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
If anything, I (obviously) don't concur with this approach. To be frank, since the main purpose of the image is "to provide an accurate visual representation of the subject", the unaltered image already did just that; how minor the alteration is or how easily it's done is irrelevant. Not sure why there's an absolute need for it to be shoved in the infobox, as opposed to leaving it in its original form and still presented in the article in another manner. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 00:04, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I don't know if editing the photographs to take labels off the cup would be the best approach. Kind of a strange situation, since the subject hasn't been edited. But then, the logo on the cup was part of the product to market and brand that product for service. The photograph was of a real product and the editing has changed that product. I would have put the file in behind the scenes, instead of editing to put it in an infobox because like Sam, I don't think it needs to be in it. - Kates39 (talk) 17:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
The way I see it, the digital edit does no more than get rid of an out-of-universe "watermark", as it were. The visual representation of subject of the article, as Kates39 pointed out, has not been altered, since that "watermark" is not an intrinsic part of it (the subject of the article, of course, is the in-universe wizarding beverage, not the product or brand sold at The Wizarding World of Harry Potter; much like Bertie Bott's Every Flavour Beans does not refer to the ones made by Jelly Belly).
As a thought experiment: imagine I were to go to The Wizarding World of Harry Potter, buy a cup of Fishy Green Ale, and then transfer the contents of that cup to a transparent and otherwise featureless glass. If I then took a picture of it, why would that picture be ineligible to use here? It's very much the same situation, I think. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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