Rated R?

Does anyone think it will be rated R? And if not, what?

Seeing as its a kids film, I doubt it would be an R. But as the film doesnt come out for another three years this whole conversations pointless. - Vaysey Gryffindor 15:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a possibility it will be R. At least PG 13...-Matoro183 (Talk) 19:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Why in the world word it be rated R? --Lupin & Kingsley 23:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree, especially if you don't have any proof to back this claim up. -Adv193 16:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Matoro was just saying it was possible that it will be rated R in response to somebody else's question. He never said that it was definitively going to be rated R; it's his opinion, not a "claim" requiring proof.
While I personally doubt it will receive this rating, considering the audience for the novels, it is possible -- R ratings are typically given for violence, especially violence that includes blood. Deathly Hallows includes scenes of Harry and Ron losing teeth (Harry in the Battle over Little Whinging, Ron when he's punched by a Snatcher), which has to be bloody; Ron severely bleeds from being Splinched; Hermione gets tortured (even if they don't show it directly, as in the book, it's an extremely violent and disturbing act); Harry gets bitten by a snake after it comes out of a corpse (again, disturbing); numerous characters die... There's a lot of violence in Deathly Hallows, and I can't see the filmmakers being able to depict the Battle of Hogwarts as bloodless, even if curses tend to make deaths a little 'cleaner', as it were.
However, nobody has "proof" about the rating, seeing as the films won't be coming out for years (as Vaysey already pointed out). Oread 16:56, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Matoro I never mint to accuse you of saying that it will be rated R, sorry about that. --Lupin & Kingsley 20:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the DH films will get an R rating, given that their core audience is under 18, but I do think they will be a strong PG-13. DH, as a book, is dark and violent, so bringing those elements to the screen is unavoidable if the filmmakers want to do justice to the original story. But I do think some stuff will have to be left out or toned done considerably because it is simply too intense for family movies. Two particularly gory scenes that come to mind are George's ear and Snape's death. Indirect camera angles could be used for the ear, like was done with Pettigrew's hand in the GoF film, but I think it will more likely be left out, as it is not integral to the plot. Snape's death cannot be cut, because it is integral to the plot, but they'll definitely tone it down, maybe having him die from venom instead of extreme blood loss.
At this point, though, everything about how violent the movies will be or what ratings they will receive is speculation. We'll just have to wait and see as more information comes in over the next few months. Starstuff (Owl me!) 14:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

No it should not be a 15 (R rating). The story of Harry Potter is for kids no matter how dark it gets. It will most likely be a 12A (PG-13) though. 13:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Considering we've had two Potter films get PG-13 already, and given the level of violence in the book, I would say a PG-13 is likely. There's nothing in the book that justifies an R rating (certainly nothing that resembles the silly love scene rumors kicking around). 23skidoo 03:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Matoro, Lupin & Kingsley, 23skiddo, Vaysed & Oread. There's really no reason to make the last movie an "R" rated film. If they do parents would never let their little kids see it. -- T.J. (talk) 15:22, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure it will be a 12. The last 3 have been 12s (but Half-Blood Prince was a 12A). So maybe it will be a 12A. But this talk page is for talking about improvements to the article, not ratings. TurboGolf 06:06, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Two Articles

When the films are closer, should this article be split in two? RaggieSoft 04:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

There are two films, so I definately think that the articles should be split in two at some point. --Freakatone 12:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

well what I dont understand is why they are spliting it into 2 movies??? --Its_A_Sammy 12:53, 23 May 2008

There's too much important information in the final book. If they cut out/alter too much, the movie loses its faithfulness to the novel. And they can't fit everything into, call it, a two and a half hour movie. --Cubs Fan2007 19:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree, we should split this article into two pages. ----ÈnŔîčö Ravenclawcrest(Send me an Owl) 11:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I also agree --Hellabore Hallows (Deathly Hallows)(contribs)
I personally think the article should be split when we know where the films will be split -Smonocco 12:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Smonocoo --Hellabore Hallows (Deathly Hallows)(contribs)
I agree that this article should be split when we have more information on how Parts I and II are going to differ (plot, cast, etc.). I think we should change the title to "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (films)" for now. Starstuff (Owl me!) 14:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

If there is going to a huge difference in the cast between both films then I'll agree with the idea of splitting this article into two. If not then I'll that needs to be done is create 3 cast sections, one for characters that appear in both movies and the other two for those that only appear in one movie each. It also depends if there are any changes at all between the books and the movie that occur in this film because there is no telling what may happen until the release date. -Adv193 14:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

    • Furthermore this also reminds me of why I created an omissions section for the film version of the Goblet of Fire, because it had to do with controlling potential overflowing information since I did it to make it easier to navigate. Though from what I figure there is likely going to be enough information that is massive enough that will require the need to create 2 pages for this film to control the massive details. -Adv193 01:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


The cast list is reaching a ridiculous size if we continue like this. Only the main cast (the cast that is always on the posters and promo's and dvd's) should be noted like this. The rest of them should be in the text down below. That would mean that aside from the trio the following actors would be on the list (alphabetical order): Helena Bonham Carter, Robbie Coltrane, Warwick Davis, Ralph Fiennes, Michael Gambon, Brendon Gleeson, Richard Griffiths, John Hurt, Jason Isaacs, Alan Rickman, Fiona Shaw, Maggie Smith, Timothy Spall, David Thewlis, Julie Walters and Mark Williams. 16 names, the rest in the article section. If you agree, I'm willing to change it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

  • At the moment I have to disagree with you, as we are still early on into the filming I feel the cast list is an important link as to which characters are being included in the films. As time goes by and the article is split for the two films, that may be the time to edit it.--Darth Jadious 15:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

shell cottage

i dont think that is sheel cottage with one of the link it might be malfoy manor 07:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hogwarts Students

Does anyone know where it is confirmed that Scarlett Byrne, Louis Doyle and Hugh Mitchell are reprising their roles as Pansy Parkinson, Ernie Macmillan and Colin Creevey in Deathly Hallows. I can't find them confirmed anywhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lilleby (talkcontribs).

According To they are all going to be in Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 --Bongo2009 Gryffindor 20:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Where? All I can find is a place with castmembers and all of them are listed Waiting For Confirmation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lilleby (talkcontribs).

Charlie Weasley

Does anybody know if Charlie Weasley has been or will be cast in Deathly Hallows? --Adumb1881 12:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

No word yet, as far as I'm aware. I'm sure he will be in the movie though. Jayden Matthews 12:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

He is cast, I believe! I only don't who is gonna play him. Tim Lemmens 8:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Could we please come to an agreement as to whether he will be in the film. He's been on and off constantly over the past year. There is a source on the article saying that Alex Crockford will reprise his role: [1], but I don't feel it's a good enough reference.
Also, the article says that George Harris will reprise his role as Kingsley Shacklebolt with this source: [2]. I also don't think this is reliable enough.
What does everyone else think?
Joeworthy 11:14, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
Seeing how almost every named character has been confirmed to be in the movie, it would be very odd if Charlie Weasley were not in the movie. The same goes for Kingsley Shacklebolt. I say we leave them be, and in the very off chance that they are not in the movie (which will lead to many fans being very disappointed), we will then remove them. Clearly, not everyone who is in the movie likes to state that they are. We have seen this as these people have not stated they are in the movie. Yet we have lots of extras and small unnamed roles confirmed. Unfortunatly, the only way everyone will ultimately be confirmed will be when we can actually see the movies, in November 2010 and July 2011.
CoolDudeAl 23:13, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore, as far as the soruce's reliablity, I would say they are at least as reliable as Ariana Dumbledore or The Grey Lady. One which uses the word "rumor", and the other which is on a blog, although appearently the person is trustworthy.
CoolDudeAl 23:36, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
The source that is given for Charlie Weasley in Part 2 is only the source for Part 1. When you look in the source for Part 2 then you won't find Charlie. So it is not sure that he is also in Part 2.Harry granger 20:01, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but many of the actors and actresses have not stated whether or not they will be in the first half, the second half, or both halves. So the best bet is to use the book, and Charlie, along with the rest of his family, is present in the Battle of Hogwarts, which, of course, takes place in Part 2 of the films.
CoolDudeAl 21:34, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Cast List

The cast list is starting to look a little speculated, some of the listed actors/actresses I'm unsure of. This current list claims that Tiana Benjamin is returning for her role of Angelina Johnson, however a few months back in an EastEnders Q&A's I asked this question;

"Will you be returning for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows?"

and she replied

"I don't think so, for the moment I am very happily staying on EastEnders - for as long as they will have me! I don't know much about the film other than it's been split into two parts. I did have an amazing time on the film and doing the video game and it's something that I'll always be proud to have been part of, but being in EastEnders is a childhood dream for me."

But this list confirms her as returning without any source etc; Is there any source that states her return? Also the same for Lee Jordan's actor returning too, the last I heard he was studying to become a fashion designer and didn't return as he was on a Sky TV show or something.

I also noticed that it states that Alex Crockford will be returning as Charlie Weasley. I don't believe this has been confirmed. -Smonocco 23:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Just checked I.M.Db. and apparently he will be returning but i've noticed that, according to the article several other actors will be returning, however no sources are provided. -Smonocco 14:19, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Grawp "recasting"???

I removed the following statement from the casting section: Recasting for Rubeus Hagrid's giant half-brother Grawp has yet to be announced. I'm not sure if it's just a case of somebody trying to be thorough, but Grawp was a CGI creation in the last movie, so there is no recasting to be done, unless I missed something that indicates Grawp will be played by a flesh-and-blood actor in DH. 23skidoo 15:27, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Well, Grawp's movements and look was based and filmed with actor Tony Maudsley. You can kind of say that he played Grawp in Order of the Phoenix. Lilleby
I agree, and think the statement should be reposted in the article. FelixFreak 16:17, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

The name of the article.

I am seriously concerned about the name of this article. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is ONE film in TWO parts. IT IS NOT TWO SEPERATE FILMS. The name should be changed to Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Film). David Heyman said that the Deathly Hallows is ONE film, NOT two. See

I request that this page is renamed to the said name above, as there is evidence to show that it's 1 film. Thank You Lee7003 12:22, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

It's one story, but it's still two films, one to be released in 2010 and the other in 2011[3]. It's not much different from the Back to the Future trilogy or The Lord of the Rings trilogy. - Nick O'Demus 13:16, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
Your comparison is faulty. Back to the Future is a trilogy, as it is three self-contained but connected seperate works. But The Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy, but one single book with a single self-contained story, which the original publisher insisted on splitting into three volumes because of costs. -a Tolkiendil 14:47, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's going to be two films so it requires two articles. We know now where the films are to be split, so I propose that we start to think about breaking up the article. Jayden Matthews 14:12, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, the article should be divided into two. Lilleby 19:31, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


Is William going to play in this movie? He only signed up for An education :S He doesn't want to answer my question so i ask you guys. OLiViA 20:17, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

If you are referring to Mark Williams. Yes, he will.source-link --ÈnŔîčö DCRavenclawcrest(Send me an Owl!) 07:01, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I think he means William Melling, who played Nigel in the last three films. Jayden Matthews 08:50, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure about him, since i haven't received any reports yet ragarding his coming back for DH. --ÈnŔîčö DCRavenclawcrest(Send me an Owl!) 09:13, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Professor Trewlany

As sad I am to see Emma Thompson not returning as Sybil, I am thrilled at the possibility of having Nicollete Sheridan take on the role. I am a huge fan of ABC's Desperate Housewives, and would love to see womanizer Edie Britt play such a wacky and interesting character! What do you guys think?--Bella Goth 02:36, December 30, 2009 (UTC)Bella Goth

Two Articles?

Does anyone know if this will be split into two different articles when the movies get closer to their release? Jack5555 16:32, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

  • The point has been raised above. They probably will split the article, but for now they shouldn't because there are still aspects that we don't know about the way the films will be divided. For example, I find it hard to imagine that Maggie Smith, Robbie Coltrane, and some of the other big names won't appear in some way in the first film. I re-read DH this past weekend and I could see circumstances where they could insert Hogwarts scenes into the first half of the story. On the other hand it's possible that characters appearing in the first part of the story in the books - say, Tonks for example - might only appear in Part 2 of the movie. What I'm saying is until we get confirmation as to what's been added, what's been shifted around, etc., it should probably stay one article for now, at least until the first movie is released. 23skidoo 14:45, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

"Because she is an American"

I deleted the following statement regarding the question as to whether Eleanor Columbus is returning as Susan Bones: "who is very unlikely to reappear as she is an American". What is this garbage? No source, just a statement saying an actress isn't likely to appear because she has the wrong passport. Give me a break. Where's the source for this? Now if you were to say she wasn't likely to appear because her dad isn't directing the thing, that would be fine. 23skidoo 14:40, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

For all the previous movies all speaking roles had to be played by British actors per JKR's request. --JKochRavenclawcrest(Owl Me!) 15:02, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
But she doesn't have a large presense in the final book; she's just one of the many people fighting in the battle. I don't recall her even having any lines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Lots Of Unconfirmed Cast Members

I've noticed there are quite a few actors on the cast list here that have been unconfirmed to return to the film and with no references to back them up:

Also, the citation for Richard Cubison as Antonin Dolohov doesn't actually mention him.

I know it has been confirmed somewhere that Pete Perry will play Dedalus Diggle and Louise Walpole will play Hestia Jones, but I think we need to find a reference because I can't find one.

Hopefully, we will be able to find citations, but if no-one can, I think these will have to be deleted from this page.

Harry granger 19:00, May 20, 2010 (UTC) I found a source, that Johnpaul Castrianni plays a Death Eater in HP 7, here:

Great, thank you! I think this is confirmation that Johnpaul Castrianni will be playing Yaxley in the 2 movies and I will edit all pages accordingly. Joeworthy 19:05, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Harry granger 19:10, May 20, 2010 (UTC) That's my first thank you. Thanks for it. Always pleased, when I can help.

New Trailer

Can someone provide a link to the new trailer with the quidditch picth, voldemort chase etc.? Thanks

Sky Shadow All Hail Optimus Prime(and Hermione). 07:35, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sky Shadow, Potter sneak peek (not trailer) was revealed by Warner Brothers during Showest, which is exclusively reserved for a professional audience... So this images are not intended to be revealed to a wider public, at least at this time and under this shape! Bye

{{SUBST:Utilisateur:Nicolas annereau/autosig}} 09:13, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Chris Columbus.

I think it's a good idea if Chris Columbus direct the epilogue, because he does a good job in the first two films that are less mature and more childish. Anyone known a notice about he? Or you think it's not a good idea?

--ArthurCh 16:27, April 4, 2010 (UTC)ArthurCh8

Harry granger 18:42, May 11, 2010 (UTC) Hi, I have new information. Since it does not function on the film site I give it here. There is a new actor and a new actress. 1. Danielle Bilyard as Extra, source: 2. Jennifer Clegg as a Snatcher, source: Perhaps it does interest someone.

Cast List

Can an admin please rule on if the cast list should be how Jayce wants it, or as it was prior to this? Thank you in advance.

CoolDudeAl 20:39, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

The cast list, as it stands, is full of misinformation and speculation. The descriptions of each character, for example, are completely and utterly useless, not to mention riddled with bias and personal opinion. If someone comes to this site looking for information on the characters then they can find it in the respective articles. The "TBA" is massively speculative. We don't even know if all the characters from the book are going to be in the film, and we certainately should'nt be listing them in the cast. Having a section of the cast dedicated to actors who have appeared in preivious Harry Potter films and who may or may not appear in this one is likewise, redundent, and speculative. The cast list should therfore stay as it is, as per my last edit. –K.A.JTCE 07:09, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, at least I got a well thought out response. I wouldn't say it was full of "misinformation and speculation", that seems a bit strong. The TBA section never say that all those characters were defiantly appearing in the film. In fact it said almost the opposite. My only other point would be that no one has had a problem with these things on the page for several months. I don't understand why now it would be a problem. And I can guarantee you that some of those characters listed (at the least the epilogue children), will be in the movie. But whatever pleases you and Jayce I suppose will have to stand for now.

CoolDudeAl 17:10, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki's are always works in progress. There are a great many things that need to be changed, and they don't always get done straight away. That doesn't mean we shouldn't bother, or that we should just accept substandard articles as they are. The key principle of wiki editing is verification. If an encyclopedia cannot verify it's contents then it has no credibility. That's why the cast list must only contain actors who have been confirmed to be appearing in the film. Thank you for understanding. –K.A.JTCE 17:36, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found another actor for Deathly Hallows. It is Jim Goldstone as Ministry of Magic policeman, look here: Harry granger 18:54, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have already found other actors. Here they are:

Ifeoma Oboko as Extra, source:

Sarah Jane O'Neill as Ministry Wizard, source:

George Potts as Balding Wizard, source:

Catherine Laine as Ministry Typist, source: Harry granger 19:16, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

I added them. Thanks for finding them. CoolDudeAl 22:04, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have already found two new actors. Here they are: Catherine Cordell as muggle, source:

Lily Tello as Student/Extra, source: Harry granger 12:04, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Someone called the actress of Astoria Greengrass with the name: Jade Olivia, but that are only her christian names. Her surname is Gordon. She is the friend of Draco Malfoy actor Tom Felton. Harry granger 17:41, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found another actress for Deathly Hallows. It is Natalie Hallam. She is in Part 1 as Muggle and in Part 2 as Death eater, look here: Harry granger 18:38, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hallam also portrayed this teacher. If the teacher appears in the DH film (which to date is unknown) should we list the character as Death Eater then?--Rodolphus 19:10, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know. I found it ridiculous, too. Part 1 = Muggle, Part 2 = Death Eater. Harry granger 19:14, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 16:54, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I hadn't seen this discussion, but I think its really strange how they've had an actress play a professor for three films, but now she's going to be a muggle and then a death eater. All sounds a bit strange to me. Natalie Hallam's wikipedia page even says that she will be appearing in both of the Deathly Hallows films.
Does anyone here have myspace (unfortunately I don't) because we would be able to send her a message and ask her which of this information is correct and which is just speculative. Her page is here:
Joeworthy 17:36, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

If anyone writes to her, we can ask her if she portrays Sinistra, Vector or someone else.--Rodolphus 17:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

It isn't really that surprising. Obviously the film makers like her, as they keep using her. In the last three films, they needed more professors, so they had her play one. In Deathly Hallows Part 1, they needed more muggles, probably when Harry, Ron, and Hermione are running away after the wedding, so they cast her as one. In Deathly Hallows Part 2, they needed more Death Eaters, for the battle of Hogwarts, so they cast her as one. It's not like her role as a professor has been that promenent in the last three films, nor do we even no which teacher she is supposted to be, so I don't think they saw it as that big of a deal. CoolDudeAl 04:54, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found another actor for Deathly Hallows. It is Jesse Hart as Erik Slave, obviously a new role only for the second film. Here is the source: Harry granger 20:46, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found another actress for Deathly Hallows. It is Georgie May as Gryffindor student. Here is the source: Harry granger 20:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found another actress for Deathly Hallows. It is Jade Stanger as Student, look here: [1] Harry granger 17:13, July 4, 2010 (UTC) Sorry, I can't open my own source. I will better give it the old way. Harry granger 17:15, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found another actor for Deathly Hallows. It is Piotr Ochman as Wizard. Here is the source: Harry granger 20:57, July 9, 2010 (UTC) Sorry, wrong source. Here is the right: Harry granger 21:00, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Two missing snatchers

According to their web pages, and, both Cloe and Grace Bruce play snatchers in the upcoming Harry Potter movie.

MarcusSteiner 11:59, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Cast list for Deathly Hallows: Part I

Hi, I have found a new actor for part 1. It is Chris Bowe as Commuter. Here is the source: Harry granger 17:06, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have found a new actors for part 1.

1. Helen Harbord as Ministry of Magic worker. Here is the source:

2. Guinevere Edwards as Ministry wizard. Here is the source:

3. Bella Sokol as Auror. Here is the source:

4. Andy Callaghan as Wizard parent. Here is the source: Harry granger 18:08, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Trailer. 06:52, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


I just saw the newest trailer and I couldn't believe what Hogwarts looks like during/after the battle. It was so cool, yet so sad in a way. Very bittersweet. I love how the awesome all the rubble looks, but Hogwarts is like a home to almost everyone. Anyone else feel the same way as me?--Bella Goth 02:11, July 6, 2010 (UTC)Bella Goth




Hey i found a source that says that Jamie Marks will play as Ernie Macmillian. Here's the source:

Can someone please add this is into the article, because the article is locked and i can't post it myself. 04:32, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Voldemort appears alone

I noticed that in the trailer posted on this site, Voldemort appears alone in the scene where Harry is "killed". In the book, his deatheaters are with him. Should this be posted on the "Differences from the book" page, or is it too unimportant? FelixFreak 16:11, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

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