Talk:Jacob's sibling

Name?

So, I haven't been able to play this game yet because it's not out on iOS, but is there a default surname listed during the character creation process? If there is, then using the default surname as the title for this article strikes me as preferable to the current placeholder title, which is clunky and difficult to work into prose. ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 14:12, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

Judging from the playthroughs on Youtube, there is no default surname. The player writes the name they want to go by themselves (unlike, say, Fantastic Beasts: Cases from the Wizarding World, in which you had to select from a list of names and surnames). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:23, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

I did, however, go through the trouble of listing all default surenames of all the default surenames of Fantastic Beasts: Cases of the Wizarding World, on the talkpage of the "wizarding famililies" category, but I don't think anyone ever saw it. Ninclow (talk) 20:44, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

Seer or Divination?

Should Divination or Seer be added to Jacob's Sibling's magical abilities instead of mentioned in the trivia section? We know they a vision of the cursed ice covering the school and it later does start happening. Seems to pretty much confirm they are a Seer. StargateFanBB (talk) 17:57, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Profile pic

I think that the profile pic used for Jacob's sibling should be removed as he/she can be female or male and adding a female profile pic adds the connotation, that she is female.Felix Fellicis (talk) 18:25, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Seconded.  (SWUFan2150 (talk) 17:26, May 8, 2018 (UTC)). 

The profile picture came from the trailer for the game, which gives the same impression of the player's appearance. When the game loads, there's a picture which shows the same girl in the place of the player. The image was added by an admin I think, hopefully they can weigh in. I'm not opposed to it because the articles notes it depends on the player. I would rather have an official picture from the game than nothing. People who play the game have the same picture on their device anyway. - Kates39 (talk) 21:58, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

House - BTS section?

Taking what we know from higher canon sources into account, can we narrow down Jacob's sibbling's House in the BTS section?

1. Pottermore tells us that no Non-Slytherin has entered the Common Room in hundreds of years. This should exclude Hufflepuff and Gryffindor, as they are caught in-game sneaking into the Slytherin room.--Rodolphus (talk) 11:26, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

But if no non-Slytherin's had entered the Slytherin common room in hundreds of years, then it includes Hufflepuff and Gryffindor. And the game depends on the choices of players, meaning Jacob's sibling can be in any House. I don't now whether the game-makers have thought of an actual determined story where it can be canon and Jacob's sibling has one House.

I was wondering lately whether we should actually consider the game canon because there are many contradictions - a lot more than I had realised. I thought the basic story would at least be the same, but now I don't know. You have pointed out another contradiction I hadn't realised. The game's Tier 3 canon and Pottermore's Tier 1 canon. Tier 1 wins in this case. - Kates39 (talk) 11:50, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Name Change Suggestion

As suggested by Matt London, writer on Hogwarts Mystery here: tweet , how about we name Jacob's Sibling as The Vault-Breaker? I think it's a more proper stand-in name, Jacob's Sibling can naturally stay as a redirect. DanyyelTR (talk) 16:01, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

I disagree. First of all, "Vault-Breaker"? Like, as in the character broke the vault? Can it be fixed?? What?? I'm assuming it's trying to say: "the person who has broken into the vault", but even if that's the case, Jacob's Sibling was not the only person who has gotten into the vaults, even adding the "the" to describe "Vault-Breaker", does not specify the matter much. I'm not saying "Jacob's sibling" is perfect, but at the moment, it's the most direct description for the character.

Also, even if Matt was still a writer of Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery at the time of the Tweet, he's no longer one after Year 3. He even said that "The Vault-Breaker" is the name he'd go with, unofficially, in the Tweet you provided. I suppose, if anything, "(the?) Vault-Breaker" can be used as a redirect to the character, but definitely not the other way around. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 20:16, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

I think we should just keep using Jacob's sibling in the aritcles mentioning him/her. Vault-Breaker would be harder to do and might actually look weirder in an article when their mentioned.StargateFanBB (talk) 21:41, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

Infobox

I noticed the infobox is headed with "Unidentified 1980s Hogwarts student". Is this really fitting? I mean, it isn't as though they're unidentified, it's just that their identity varies depending on who plays them.

Shouldn't it just be "Jacob's Sibling?"

민태준 - 슈가 ^{(Inconvenience me here!)} 17:21, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

"Overly-elaborated observation"

It wasn't an observation that both were young and had Dumbledore's confidence, it was an observation that stated their background, motivations/personalities, skills, (what skills Hestia have been established to have, that is) and prerequisites/precondition are identical, but... Whatever. Maester Martin (talk) 23:20, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

Filling in the blanks?

Hello. I spoke with RedWizard98 about this, and he suggested I put the suggestion up here on the talk page so people could actually pitch in. 

I have been adding content from Hogwarts Mystery lately, which I started playing a while back and are absolutely hooked on, but as it is, I quite frankly find writing and reading about the Main Character to be a needlessly cumbersome process, and have to keep re-reading stuff all the time because I sometimes get confused if "they", "them" is referring to Jacob's sibling, or Jacob's sibling and their friends. Now, in every piece of promotional footage and other material I have come across that does not specifically show off the customization process, the main character of Hogwarts Mystery is female, and as the BTS points out, the original name seems to have been "Maya", according to the original trailer. So I was wondering if, in the interest of separating the game mechanics from the in-universe perspective of the article as much as possible, perhaps we could get some sort of consensus on the idea of using what at least seems to have been the original idea for the Main Character on the part of those making the game to institute the name Maya and the female gender as wiki-specific placeholders for some of the "unknowns" that is left up to the individual player for the sake of clarity and to simplify things? I mean - so what if the character can be customized and all that within the game itself, and that individual players can pick and choose whatever they like? The logistics of the gameplay isn't supposed to be a part of the character pages anyway, so if the Main Character is supposed to be unique to each player, I don't really why the wikia can't have one that's unique to it as well?.We can still add in the BTS section that gender, name, ethnicity, etc, is optional for those who play the game, but again, that's game mechanics. That, I think, should be seperate from the character as its own, seperate entity within the story. Tfoc (talk) 06:22, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Advaced Arithmancy?

Hey, guys. Hope you are all doing well and keeping safe in the midst of this pandemic.

To keep it brief, I have been pondering over a particular matter for quite some time, but have now decided that it's best to ask your opinions on it, before making any hasty changes to the article. 

To elaborate, if you guys are familiar with the Year 3 Side Quest "Crushed" in which Bill Wealey discloses his infatuation with his fellow Gryffindor Emily Tyler to the main character and requests that they talk to her about this, the main character appears to imply that they take Advaced Arithmancy. This implication occurs right before they familiarise themselves with Emily Tyler, where they exasperatedly remark how romance is more complicated than Advanced Arithmancy. If you want to have a quick look at this exchange, then please head over this video and skip ahead to 1:35. Thank you for reading all this and I hope to hear your thoughts on whether or not you think this remark means they take Advanced Arithmancy. Mite-Man16 (talk) 18:04, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

New profile picture suggestion

--RogueOwner (talk) 00:42, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

I'm personally okay with either of the profile pictures, although I'm probably a bit more inclined to this new one. Mite-Man16 (talk) 00:50, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

I previewed it, and I think the new one looks better.
(owl post) 03:13, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Behind the scenes book canon comment

This is reply to this edit. Please note that in the "Behind the scenes" section, commentary about how this article material agrees or differs from other HP sources.

As such, this point is noting that in the Harry Potter books, Slytherin won the house cups from 1986 to 1991. As much of Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery takes place during these years, according to the book canon, Slytherin would win the house cups for these years, so if the player's character wins the house cup during these times they should have to have been in sorted into Slytherin.

The fact that players influence the house cups, and other houses can win in the game during these year, is what is being noted as not aligning with established book canon. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:25, June 26, 2020 (UTC)