Talk:Jacob's sibling

Name?

So, I haven't been able to play this game yet because it's not out on iOS, but is there a default surname listed during the character creation process? If there is, then using the default surname as the title for this article strikes me as preferable to the current placeholder title, which is clunky and difficult to work into prose. ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 14:12, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

Judging from the playthroughs on Youtube, there is no default surname. The player writes the name they want to go by themselves (unlike, say, Fantastic Beasts: Cases from the Wizarding World, in which you had to select from a list of names and surnames). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:23, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

I did, however, go through the trouble of listing all default surenames of all the default surenames of Fantastic Beasts: Cases of the Wizarding World, on the talkpage of the "wizarding famililies" category, but I don't think anyone ever saw it. Ninclow (talk) 20:44, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

Well, in the offical gameplay trailer of the game, you can pause at the exact right moment and it confirms that the character is a young female and that her name is "Maya". However, it feels a bit weird to say that a gameplay trailer is a source to canon, althought that may just be my opinion. User:Rakotino4 (User talk:Rakotino4) 21:38, 06 june 2023 (UTC)

Seer or Divination?

Should Divination or Seer be added to Jacob's Sibling's magical abilities instead of mentioned in the trivia section? We know they a vision of the cursed ice covering the school and it later does start happening. Seems to pretty much confirm they are a Seer. StargateFanBB (talk) 17:57, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Profile pic

I think that the profile pic used for Jacob's sibling should be removed as he/she can be female or male and adding a female profile pic adds the connotation, that she is female.Felix Fellicis (talk) 18:25, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Seconded.  (SWUFan2150 (talk) 17:26, May 8, 2018 (UTC)). 

The profile picture came from the trailer for the game, which gives the same impression of the player's appearance. When the game loads, there's a picture which shows the same girl in the place of the player. The image was added by an admin I think, hopefully they can weigh in. I'm not opposed to it because the articles notes it depends on the player. I would rather have an official picture from the game than nothing. People who play the game have the same picture on their device anyway. - Kates39 (talk) 21:58, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

House - BTS section?

Taking what we know from higher canon sources into account, can we narrow down Jacob's sibbling's House in the BTS section?

1. Pottermore tells us that no Non-Slytherin has entered the Common Room in hundreds of years. This should exclude Hufflepuff and Gryffindor, as they are caught in-game sneaking into the Slytherin room.--Rodolphus (talk) 11:26, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

But if no non-Slytherin's had entered the Slytherin common room in hundreds of years, then it includes Hufflepuff and Gryffindor. And the game depends on the choices of players, meaning Jacob's sibling can be in any House. I don't now whether the game-makers have thought of an actual determined story where it can be canon and Jacob's sibling has one House.

I was wondering lately whether we should actually consider the game canon because there are many contradictions - a lot more than I had realised. I thought the basic story would at least be the same, but now I don't know. You have pointed out another contradiction I hadn't realised. The game's Tier 3 canon and Pottermore's Tier 1 canon. Tier 1 wins in this case. - Kates39 (talk) 11:50, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Name Change Suggestion

As suggested by Matt London, writer on Hogwarts Mystery here: tweet , how about we name Jacob's Sibling as The Vault-Breaker? I think it's a more proper stand-in name, Jacob's Sibling can naturally stay as a redirect. DanyyelTR (talk) 16:01, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

I disagree. First of all, "Vault-Breaker"? Like, as in the character broke the vault? Can it be fixed?? What?? I'm assuming it's trying to say: "the person who has broken into the vault", but even if that's the case, Jacob's Sibling was not the only person who has gotten into the vaults, even adding the "the" to describe "Vault-Breaker", does not specify the matter much. I'm not saying "Jacob's sibling" is perfect, but at the moment, it's the most direct description for the character.

Also, even if Matt was still a writer of Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery at the time of the Tweet, he's no longer one after Year 3. He even said that "The Vault-Breaker" is the name he'd go with, unofficially, in the Tweet you provided. I suppose, if anything, "(the?) Vault-Breaker" can be used as a redirect to the character, but definitely not the other way around. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 20:16, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

I think we should just keep using Jacob's sibling in the aritcles mentioning him/her. Vault-Breaker would be harder to do and might actually look weirder in an article when their mentioned.StargateFanBB (talk) 21:41, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

I think we should change the name to Pip, which is what Jacob calls them regardless of what name they chose. It would flow a lot better in articles instead of constantly referring to them as "Jacob's Sibling". CaptainKaibyo 15:45, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

I checked and verified that the player's character does get nicknamed "Pip" by Jacob whatever their chosen name and gender (see two of the videos I found, one and two). I support changing the article name to Pip in light of that, since it's a proper name the character was known by and works better than "Jacob's sibling". - Kates39 (talk) 16:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Agreed, we have used nicknames in other article titles when actual names aren't known. Though I'd suggest keeping the redirect.Rodolphus (talk) 16:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree, the redirect should definitely be kept. If it doesn't get any objections in the next day, I will move the page to Pip and clean-up the article. - Kates39 (talk) 17:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Does anyone else have any thoughts before I move the page later today? - Kates39 (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I definitely disagree with this change. "Pip" is just a loving nickname by Jacob, not unlike "buddy". Referring to the character as "Pip" throughout this wiki is not respectful at all. Not to mention this nickname scarcely comes up before the player finds Jacob in the Buried Vault, which is at the end of Year 5. And absolutely no one uses "Pip" to refer to the character except Jacob. Using "Pip" will definitely lead to confusion. MalchonC (talk) 11:26, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree with MalchonC. Гилли (talk) 11:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

If people would like to keep Jacob's sibling then we don't have to change it. I don't have any strong feelings about it, but I thought the suggestion was good. But I do think it's over the top to say it's "not respectful" to use a known nickname in absence of a proper name, like we have for many articles. It's the only name that has every single player has been labelled too.

I don't get the point about "buddy" because in the informal context that you used it, it's a way of calling a person a friend. It's like how in the UK, we would say "mate". However, "Pip" doesn't have that definition and it was not used by Jacob in that context. Pip was capitalized too like a proper noun. While I understand changing the article name could be strange and confusing to you, using "Jacob's sibling" can be and has been confusing to people too over the years. It's probably not what people think to search for when first trying to find details about the character, and we like to use the latest details at the wiki. Don't worry though, I won't change anything unless the subject gains any other input. - Kates39 (talk) 16:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, what I meant was, unless "Pip" stands for "Philips", which it clearly does not, that isn't a usable name for a character so important. I may not be as sensitive to English as native speakers, but I do believe it's inappropriate to still call a teenager the nickname they were called back when they were an infant if that name is purely a lovely alternative which doesn't originate from the normal name at all. For example we all know Bill is short for Williams and it's safe to call him that, but if Bill's nickname had been something like "Bip" or even "Kip" and no one but his family members called him that, it'd feel super weird to have that alongside other normal names like Charlie and Percy. MalchonC (talk) 16:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't know about Phillips, but it's been pointed out in dialogue that "Pip" is a nickname, and as far as nicknames goes, "Pip" is a nickname for individuals named Philip or Philippa. Which fits: Jacob and Philip(pa), aka "Pip" - it fits with the naming conventions of the time, as it's been canonically established that using naming seers were more popular back when the parental generation were named and less so by the time their children came around in the rough time frame the books are taking place. Now, obviously the fact that players get to choose their own names shouldn't be disregarded, but it is something to consider; a BTS mention of how at least the developers visualized the protagonist of their game as a "Philip" or "Philippa". Once I can vote again, I would vote for changing it to "Pip", anyway. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 23:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

The current name is perfectly fine. It states that they are the sibling of Jacob and that is more than enough. Pip is also a shortened version of pipsqueak which explains why it is the nickname Jacob uses for our character since they are his younger sibling. Andrewh7 (talk) 00:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC) Andrewh7

1. The current name implies the protagonist of Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery has no identity and are defined solely by being the younger sibling of Jacob.
2. It's inconsistent with how other character articles are named and sticks out like a sore thumb stylistically.
3. "Pipsqueak" is a demagoguery term for someone who is "not important and does not deserve respect", which does not reflect Jacob's sentiments about their sibling. The short of which is "pip" not "Pip", the proper noun seen in the nickname. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 01:41, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I maintain my strong disagreement of a rename to "Pip". It clearly has no association to the individual's real name, as it can be chosen by the player, and since only Jacob calls them that, it is clear that it's only a very informal nickname used only within their family. "Pip" is far more inconsistent with other articles than "Jacob's sibling" is, since it's a distinctly different way of addressing someone. It's as bad as naming an individual "Sweetheart" because their lover calls them that, and I'm not exaggerating. MalchonC (talk) 04:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

I've restored the renaming template for now just until this discussion is concluded. It is always a bit difficult trying to find the best name for articles like this. I never particularly thought "Jacob's sibling" was a great name, though being an active user here, I have gotten used to it. This character is deliberately nameless. Therefore, Pip isn't short for anything. To be honest, I don't think changing the name to Pip is going to improve the article name. Everyone here is used to typing "Jacob's sibling" and I don't think players are going to be looking for "Pip". How often is the character even called Pip? I think it is better to use something that is often used to describe the character, which is what the wiki typically does in the absence of a given name, because it is more identifiable. If the name Pip was more formal, I would be still okay with it but that doesn't appear to be the case. - Kates39 (talk) 19:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the character being deliberately nameless and everyone getting so used to the name that they would only look for this name and not another. The devs purposely left the character nameless to allow players to have their own first and last names, and not have Pips be short for anything that might diminish that. Renaming the page would confuse users too much and it is just easier to leave it where it is rather than just rename it. Not that much and only by Jacob on occasion. Andrewh7 (talk) 21:18, 4 February 2023 (UTC) Andrewh7

Wanting to rename this article is a downright confusing and unhelpful idea that would cause confusion and a lack of clarity. Renaming this would help nobody as it would mean the character is not clearly identified.

And for that reason I see no need for the renaming template, as it is only one individual who wants a rename (while nobody else does). RedWizard98 (talk) 22:31, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Infobox

I noticed the infobox is headed with "Unidentified 1980s Hogwarts student". Is this really fitting? I mean, it isn't as though they're unidentified, it's just that their identity varies depending on who plays them.

Shouldn't it just be "Jacob's Sibling?"

민태준 - 슈가 ^{(Inconvenience me here!)} 17:21, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

"Overly-elaborated observation"

It wasn't an observation that both were young and had Dumbledore's confidence, it was an observation that stated their background, motivations/personalities, skills, (what skills Hestia have been established to have, that is) and prerequisites/precondition are identical, but... Whatever. Maester Martin (talk) 23:20, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

Filling in the blanks?

Hello. I spoke with RedWizard98 about this, and he suggested I put the suggestion up here on the talk page so people could actually pitch in. 

I have been adding content from Hogwarts Mystery lately, which I started playing a while back and are absolutely hooked on, but as it is, I quite frankly find writing and reading about the Main Character to be a needlessly cumbersome process, and have to keep re-reading stuff all the time because I sometimes get confused if "they", "them" is referring to Jacob's sibling, or Jacob's sibling and their friends. Now, in every piece of promotional footage and other material I have come across that does not specifically show off the customization process, the main character of Hogwarts Mystery is female, and as the BTS points out, the original name seems to have been "Maya", according to the original trailer. So I was wondering if, in the interest of separating the game mechanics from the in-universe perspective of the article as much as possible, perhaps we could get some sort of consensus on the idea of using what at least seems to have been the original idea for the Main Character on the part of those making the game to institute the name Maya and the female gender as wiki-specific placeholders for some of the "unknowns" that is left up to the individual player for the sake of clarity and to simplify things? I mean - so what if the character can be customized and all that within the game itself, and that individual players can pick and choose whatever they like? The logistics of the gameplay isn't supposed to be a part of the character pages anyway, so if the Main Character is supposed to be unique to each player, I don't really why the wikia can't have one that's unique to it as well?.We can still add in the BTS section that gender, name, ethnicity, etc, is optional for those who play the game, but again, that's game mechanics. That, I think, should be seperate from the character as its own, seperate entity within the story. Tfoc (talk) 06:22, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Advaced Arithmancy?

Hey, guys. Hope you are all doing well and keeping safe in the midst of this pandemic.

To keep it brief, I have been pondering over a particular matter for quite some time, but have now decided that it's best to ask your opinions on it, before making any hasty changes to the article. 

To elaborate, if you guys are familiar with the Year 3 Side Quest "Crushed" in which Bill Wealey discloses his infatuation with his fellow Gryffindor Emily Tyler to the main character and requests that they talk to her about this, the main character appears to imply that they take Advaced Arithmancy. This implication occurs right before they familiarise themselves with Emily Tyler, where they exasperatedly remark how romance is more complicated than Advanced Arithmancy. If you want to have a quick look at this exchange, then please head over this video and skip ahead to 1:35. Thank you for reading all this and I hope to hear your thoughts on whether or not you think this remark means they take Advanced Arithmancy. Mite-Man16 (talk) 18:04, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

New profile picture suggestion

--RogueOwner (talk) 00:42, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

I'm personally okay with either of the profile pictures, although I'm probably a bit more inclined to this new one. Mite-Man16 (talk) 00:50, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

I previewed it, and I think the new one looks better.
(owl post) 03:13, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

I don't have any preference either, but this File:JacobSiblingTransparent.png needs a completed Summary block with the Description, Source, etc or it will likely be deleted. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:56, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

Behind the scenes book canon comment

This is reply to this edit. Please note that in the "Behind the scenes" section, commentary about how this article material agrees or differs from other HP sources.

As such, this point is noting that in the Harry Potter books, Slytherin won the House Cups from 1986 to 1991. As much of Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery takes place during these years, according to the book canon, Slytherin would win the house cups for these years, so if the player's character wins the house cup during these times they should have to have been in sorted into Slytherin.

The fact that players influence the house cups, and other houses can win in the game during these year, is what is being noted as not aligning with established book canon. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:25, June 26, 2020 (UTC)

Book canon dictates that Slytherin repeatedly won the House Cup for seven consecutive years before Harry's arrival at Hogwarts. Those seven years were Jacob's sibling's tenure at Hogwarts, with their House being canonically unidentified as the player can select their own House in-game. The acquisition of the House Cup is entirely determined by how well the player successfully racks up House points, meaning that it is impossible to deduce whether Jacob's sibling canonically racked up enough House points, along with their fellow House members, to win the House Cup each year. In addition, their enmity with Slytherins such as Merula and Snape further disproves the assumption that they were canonically Slytherin. Mite-Man16 (talk) 16:31, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

We obviously know that Jacob's sibling doesn't actually have a set house in the game. That paragraph is just a notable comment, that's why it's a side note in the behind the scenes section, and not in the main body of the article. As Yak has already said, the behind the scenes section is for out-of-universe commentary about how article material agrees or differs from other HP sources. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  16:39, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps the current wording is somewhat muddled but much like the BTS note at House Cup, the intent is show that Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery can differ from higher book canon as the player can win the House Cup during these years despite not being in Slytherin. Or to put it conversely, to align with book canon, the player would need to be in Slytherin to win the House Cup. Does anyone have a better way to restate the BTS note that might make it clearer? Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:42, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

That paragraph doesn't warrant a place in the 'Behind the scenes' section, as Jacob's sibling could just as easily be in any other House apart from Slytherin. There is NO proof in-game or from a canonical perspecive that Jacob's sibling was most likely to have been Sorted into Slytherin. Their acquisition of the House Cup entirely depends on how successful the player is in garnering House points. Why can't they canonically have been in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff? There is no indication that they may canonically have been Sorted into Slytherin because their racking up House points is  determined by the player. Mite-Man16 (talk) 17:00, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

Once again, that paragraph is not written from an in-universe perspective. "The behind the scenes section is for out-of-universe commentary about how article material agrees or differs from other HP sources." All it means is that the Hogwarts Mystery universe differs from the book universe, because in the book universe Slytherin wins the house cup in those years, whereas in the game other houses are able to. That's all it means. And it says "canonically Slytherin" because the book universe is the highest canon. All the paragraph is saying is that had Jacob's sibling appeared in the book, they would have been Slytherin, because, rather obviously, book characters' houses cannot be determined by a "player". -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  17:08, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

I am perfectly aware of the purpose of the 'Behind the scenes' section, so there is no need for you to reiterate its meaning to me. I am only questioning the supposed necessity of that particular comment in that particular section. There is absolutely no indication that had Jacob's sibling appeared in the books, they would have been a Slytherin. Since their rackng up of House points is entirely dependent by the level of effort from the player's in-game exploits, meaning that since it is possible that they could never win the House Cup, it could very well be that Jacob's sibling, for example, was a Ravenclaw who could never obtain acquisition of the House Cup for the seven years that they spent at Hogwarts, as Slytherin remained the prevailing House for seven consecutive years. Do you see what I'm trying to convey here? Why is there a comment on the 'Behind the scenes' section that implies that Jacib's sibling was specifically Sorted into Slytherin when they could just as equally have been in any other House had they appeared in the books? I must also stess the indisputable fact that they were quite antagonistic with Slytherin members Snape and Merula, which fails to make sense if Jacob's sibling had been a Slytherin. I mean, in only their first year, Merula tried to unsuccessfully kill them and Snape not only deducted over 30 House points from them (which would be from his House had Jacob's sibling been a Slytherin) in less than a month's time, but even ardently endeavored to have them expelled, and was often partial to Merula despite (in your head canon) Jacob's sibling being a Slytherin as well. Why would Snape display such contempt for a magically gifted and highly promising student of his own House? It just does not fit at all with your established canon. Mite-Man16 (talk) 01:42, June 28, 2020 (UTC)

Playing the devil's advocate, I believe Snape and Merula are just as antagonistic to the player even if they are Sorted into Slytherin. But I do agree the wording of the BTS entry was a bit too awkward (Jacob's sibling does not necessarily win the House Cup in-game, I think). I've rewritten it so it's hopefully a bit better. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 02:41, June 28, 2020 (UTC)

Add more to the biography!

I'm surprised at how incomplete the biography is. This is the main character of the game, guys. I'm currently expanding it while playing. I've written approximately 12kb already, and I could use your help too! MalchonC (talk) 15:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Categories Questions

I just happened to look at the categories associated with this profile and am curious to know why Jacob's sibling is categorized in beaters, chasers, animagi, and Hogwarts prefects when none of that is technically canon due to all of these accomplishments occurring in side quests/non-canon stories? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MrOptimistic1001 (talk • contribs).

Side quests don't automatically mean non-canon. They just mean these stories are outside of the main storyline, but they are just as canon. As for time-limited adventures, the player may or may not finish them on time but this is just gameplay. The stories themselves still happened canonically. MalchonC (talk) 02:12, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Prefect and Head Boy/Girl

I'm wondering why we cannot state Jacob's sibling as being a canonical Prefect and Head Boy/Girl but instead having to add "(possibly)" to every mention of these titles? We don't treat other time-limited adventures to be apocryphal just because of the time-limited nature of them, so why do we have to treat the Prefect and Head Boy/Girl adventures differently? If the player cannot finish them on time, that is on the said player and doesn't mean Jacob's sibling cannot canonically still get these titles. MalchonC (talk) 11:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I think I would agree with the Head student one, but I'm not sure about the Prefect one. We don't know Jacob's Sibbling's canon Hosuse and gender, but if it is Gryffindor and male, them being a Prefect would not be canon. Charlie was the canon male Gryffindor Prefect. I'd keep the "possibly" for Prefect.Rodolphus (talk) 09:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I believe that's a good enough reason to deem it only possible. But the Head Boy/Girl position is wide open :) MalchonC (talk) 09:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Encountering Fenrir Greyback placement

Fenrir Greyback's attack on Hogwarts occurred on 31 October 1984 so it should be fairly close to the start of the school year, but now it is placed near the end. We don't exactly know the chronology of this event combined with the main storyline (it is triggered not by reaching a certain chapter but by actually reaching Hallowe'en in real time), so how should we handle its placement? MalchonC (talk) 06:42, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Age and Birth year?

I think there's a mistake somewhere? Jacob's sibling attended Hogwarts during 1984-1991, before Harry Potter became the student as far as I understand. However, Orion Amari's page gives us 1985-1986 as the school year for the 1st season meaning also it's Jacob's sibling's first year and Amari to be possible as the same year as Jacob's sibling according to Amari's birth year information which cannot be true. There are two school year pages gives us Jacob's sibling as 1st year student - 1984-1985 and 1985-1986 which is obviously incorrect and should be edited as well as Orion Amari's page info about his birth year and 1st season timeline. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AnnaKasLee (talk • contribs) 23:01, 19 July 2021‎ (UTC).

There actually isn't any mistake with their birth year/age. Students usually aren't allowed to tryout and play Quidditch until their second year and that's when the first season happens for them, regardless of what year they're technically in when the Quidditch feature came out. If you looked at the 1985–1986 school year, it shows that Jacob's sibling and those confirmed to be in the same year as them to be in their second year during that term, not in their first year. Andrewh7 (talk) 23:43, 19 July 2021 (UTC) Andrewh7

Okay, I guess I read the 1985-1986 school year page wrong. Still there's info on Orion's page with the statement that he share birth year with Jacob's sibling and that 1985-1986 is the school year for the 1st season. AnnaKasLee (talk) 23:59, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

The same year statement is definitely not there on Orion's page. In the infobox, it states he was most likely born between two years, one of which is the same as Jacob's sibling possible birth year, but that's it. I'm not entirely certain, but the 1st season is probably/most likely due to the fact that it's the 1st part of the Quidditch feature in the game. Andrewh7 (talk) 02:21, 20 July 2021 (UTC) Andrewh7

Actual appearance of Jacob's sibling?

It's true that Hogwarts Mystery established Jacob's sibling's gender, appearance, etc. being player determinant but, I wondered whether her depiction in the game's Official Gameplay Trailer (a pretty brunette with emerald eyes and freckles) being either her default one, if not just promotional design as much as it being non-canon.

Correct me if I made a mistake but, I find Jacob's sibling's design for the game's official gameplay trailer somewhat iconic.Black Soulstone (talk) 04:48, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Don't different trailers have different depictions of the character? MalchonC (talk) 05:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

That's true. I even confirmed it upon checking other trailers. Although, out of different depictions of Jacob's sibling's appearances, I personally found the brunette one stood out from the rest.Black Soulstone (talk) 05:06, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Every character has an "original" look from perhaps one of the first trailers, but that doesn't mean it's more important or accurate than other looks. Besides, the whole point of the game is that the player can customise their own character and Hogwarts life. From the canonical point of view, the appearance of Jacob's sibling is officially unknown. MalchonC (talk) 05:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

If you pause at the exact right moment during the trailer, you can see that the character's name is "Maya". If the appaerence in the trailer is canon, so should her name be and the page should be renamed to "Maya".User:Rakotino4, 21:23, 06 June 2023 (UTC)

Is There a Reason that Quidditch Isn't Officially Mentioned in the Plot Details of Their Profile?

I understand that we won't be able to determine specific matchups in the storyline due to the lack of Jacob's Sibling's official house and that the other teams are not specifically set due to this factor. However, if this is able to be worked around, then I think that we should add the quidditch storyline into the plot here as well. Any thoughts? MrOptimistic1001 (talk) 02:45, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

If you'd like to add it, you can certainly do so, I haven't come around to it as I'm still focusing on adding year 7 stuff. The lack of specific House info is not hard to deal with as it can be left purposefully vague. It is tricky, though, that since the main storyline and Quidditch storyline are totally separate, it is impossible to determine how they fit into a single chronological biography, but I guess it can be worked around by just adding Quidditch stuff at the end of each school year in a single parallel subsection, like

====Second year====

…

=====Entering the Vault of Ice=====

=====Quidditch=====

…

======Meeting Skye Parkin======

…

MalchonC (talk) 05:00, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

According to Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, the Slytherin Quidditch team team won the Quidditch house cup during the 1990–1991 school year, meaning all victories by other houses are non-canon, but if the MC is viewed as a canonical Slytherin student, it'd be consistent with what Rowling said. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 01:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Is it possible for the player to not win the house cup though? -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  01:39, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

If it is, I've never seen any evidence for it in any playthroughs I've watched, and I have watched a lot. The points that MC get from Dumbledore at the end of year is implied to play into the ultimate outcome of the house cup. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 01:52, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Wait my bad, I meant the Quidditch cup, which is what this was about. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:24, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Now, the answer to that is yes, but if the player is in Slytherin and looses, Tier-One canon nullifies it. The loss would be non-canon, at least from Year 2-7, and if they win, it's canon. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 11:28, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Well then I could just as easily say maybe Jacob's sibling is canonically Ravenclaw and canonically loses. I think all possibilities are equal and thus cancel each other out here, making it not worth trying to ascertain Jacob's sibling's canonical house. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I suppose you could say that, but then that begs the question of what should take precedence? When the MC conforms to established tier-one canon, or when they don't? At face value, that shouldn't be a very difficult question. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 12:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Why would the player losing the cup as a Ravenclaw not be conforming to tier-one canon? -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  12:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Because its a contradiction? Because you can lose the cup as a Ravenclaw or win it as a Slytherin, and both options are fighting about space on the actual, canonical time-line in-universe, wherein only one of them constitutes an action made that leads to a canon conclusion? It all comes down to game mechanics, from an out-of-universe perspective, as a player, any choice is valid, and you're free to choose whatever course of action you want to take. People want to argue, therefore, that all choices one can make are equally valid, but if in Year 2 you can win the house cup as either house, only the player who plays as a Slytherin student conforms to canon. Same goes for house quidditch cups we know Slytherin won in any given year. From an out-of-universe perspective, one can do whatever, because it's just a game, from an in-universe perspective, only the choices that fits with established lore actually took place in-universe. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 01:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

How would losing the cup as a Ravenclaw contradict Slytherin winning it? -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  02:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

I will try to add the quidditch storyline in the biography but I just wanted to add that I analyzed every match of Jacob's Sibling's four possible quidditch careers. They are as follows: Season 1 (MC year 2/1985-1986 School Year):

Match 1
MC House.              Opponent
Ravenclaw.              Hufflepuff
Gryffindor.             Hufflepuff
Hufflepuff.             Slytherin
Slytherin.              Hufflepuff

Match 2
MC House.               Opponent
Ravenclaw.              Gryffindor
Gryffindor.             Slytherin
Hufflepuff.             Gryffindor
Slytherin               Gryffindor

Match 3 Quidditch Cup
Ravenclaw.               Slytherin
Gryffindor.              Ravenclaw
Hufflepuff.              Ravenclaw
Slytherin.               Ravenclaw

Season 2 (MC Year 3/1986-1987 School Year)
Match 1
Ravenclaw.               Hufflepuff
Gryffindor.              Hufflepuff
Hufflepuff.              Slytherin
Slytherin.               Hufflepuff

Match 2
Ravenclaw.               Slytherin
Gryffindor               Ravenclaw
Hufflepuff.              Ravenclaw
Slytherin.               Ravenclaw

Match 3 (Quidditch Cup)
Ravenclaw.               Gryffindor
Gryffindor.              Slytherin
Hufflepuff.              Gryffindor
Slytherin.               Gryffindor

Season 3. (MC Year 3/1987-1988 School Year)
Match 1
Ravenclaw.               Slytherin
Gryffindor.              Ravenclaw
Hufflepuff.              Ravenclaw
Slytherin.               Ravenclaw

Match 2
Ravenclaw.               Gryffindor
Gryffindor.              Slytherin
Hufflepuff.              Gryffindor
Slytherin.               Gryffindor

Match 3 (Quidditch Cup)
Ravenclaw.               Hufflepuff
Gryffindor.              Hufflepuff
Hufflepuff.              Slytherin 
Slytherin.               Hufflepuff 

Season 4. (MC Year 3/1988-1989 School Year)
Match 1
Ravenclaw.               Gryffindor
Gryffindor.              Slytherin
Hufflepuff.              Gryffindor
Slytherin.               Gryffindor

Match 2
Ravenclaw.               Slytherin
Gryffindor.              Ravenclaw
Hufflepuff.              Ravenclaw
Slytherin.               Ravenclaw

Match 3 (Quidditch Cup)
Ravenclaw.               Hufflepuff 
Gryffindor.              Hufflepuff 
Hufflepuff.              Slytherin
Slytherin.               Hufflepuff 

MrOptimistic1001 (talk)

Romance

It currently says that romance should be left blank because it varies depending on the player. But some other fields such as Patronus and Animagus have lists, so could there be something similar to that? PetStarPlanet (talk) 09:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Article size

I know this arguably isn't a real issue, but hear me out on this one This article, currently at around 400,000 bytes, is larger than many key characters in the original series, who have so much more importance in the franchise. Now I know Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery only appeals to a certain audience (not the same one who would say read the books or watch the films), but does anyone think this article could be massively trimmed down in content so it is arguably shorter and easily to read? This character is just an avatar in the game who is not part of the original series, so maybe this shouldn't be one of the biggest articles on the wiki. RedWizard98 (talk) 18:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Since this article contains some of my biggest and proudest contributions, I would say no, I guess?… But on a more serious note, shouldn't the goal be expanding other articles rather than cutting down this one? And Jacob's sibling did go through seven whole years of stories and more focused on them, which already makes them comparable to Harry Potter, so it shouldn't be abnormal for them to have a long article. I know that the mobile game is nowhere near as pivotal and popular as the original books or films, but we do aim to cover everything about the franchise here, so we should perhaps worry more about what is missing rather than what is "too much". MalchonC (talk) 07:44, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Possessions

Given how cluttered, long, and somewhat hard to read the list of their possessions are, would anyone be opposed to adding some more subheadings like Clothing, Photographs, etc. AD Vortigern (talk) 14:46, 24 December 2023 (UTC)