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Sectumsempra in the third game?[]
In which version of the third game does it appear?--Rodolphus 17:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I believe it would have been impossible for Sectumsempra to have appeared in the Prisoner of Azkaban game. The spell was first introduced in the Half-Blood Prince book, which was released in 2005, a year before the PoA film and game. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 13:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Counter-curse[]
In the sixth film, Snape verbally undoes the curse when performed on Draco, saying the same word several times in a row. Unfortunately I don't recall what it was; someone else heading to the film, pay attention at that point and see if you can determine what incantation Snape is saying. --MidnightLightning 20:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- The complete script will come out online eventually, and soon we will know. =) - 98.182.42.245 22:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Mistake in the film?[]
The curse has two ways (mistyped?).
min 46 or so:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3756/hpyepmsectumpsempramin4.jpg
min 93 or so:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2782/hpyepmsectumsempramin93.jpg
The calligraphy is also different, as from two different people.
The Counter Curse?[]
Since, in the film the counter curse used was "Vulnera Sanentur" and a page has already been made for the Counter curse, Should it be noted in this article as Vulnera Sanentur instead of "an incantation that sounded almost like a song"? I Believe it does need to be changed, but I wanted to see if someone else agrees. Ratneer 20:40, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
Mistake in 'Chamber of Secrets'?[]
The article states that due to a mistake Harry tries to use Sectumsempra against Draco in the film adaptation of Chamber of Secrets. Is this accurate? I'm pretty sure he used Rictusempra, which is a completely different curse altogether.
Kenji 79.16.122.32 10:26, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
In the movie adaptation, Harry uses Rictusempra, which is a Tickling Charm.
RavenQ (talk) 01:08, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
Voldemort's Flawed Planning in Deathly Hallows: Part 2?[]
I would assume that Lord Voldemort had Nagini kill Snape rather than using the Killing Curse on him because he knew that the Elder Wand would not hurt its master, and it seems to work out okay. He also does this in the film, but he first uses Sectumsempra.... It makes me wonder, if he had taken the time to just figure out that the Killing Curse would not harm the Wand's master, wouldn't that mean Sectumsempra would not hurt Snape either...? May be a mistake, either by Voldemort or the filmmakers... (I know Snape was not the master, but Voldemort thought he was so he didn't want to use Avada Kedavra on him). 64.222.105.128 19:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
Maybe not exactly, since it didn't kill him, Nagini did. The wand would allow damage to be inflicted, just not work correctly. Harry's seemingly dead body was lifted and dropped using the elder wand, and the killing curse did have an effect knocking him down at least.Dig819 01:41, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but Voldemort when casted Crucio on him, it did nothing, because Harry was the master of the Elder Wand. If it did not hurt Harry, why would it harm Snape? AlastorMoody 04:57, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
That was also because of the protection that Harry created by (meaning to) sacrifice his life. Dr. Galenos (talk) 00:00, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
These problems only occur in the film. In the book, Voldemort has not attacked Snape with the Elder wand. It was only Nagini who attacked and then killed him. Harry granger Talk contribs 08:40, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix depiction[]
In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 28 (Snape's Worst Memory), Snape casts a white spell at James Potter, which gashes open his cheek and splatters his robes with blood; the effects of this spell definitely look like Sectumsempra, and James Potter is categorised under "Sectumsempra victims". However, a user today insisted that it is not, but are we agreed that the curse is featured in the fifth book (flashback), or not? RedWizard98 (talk) 17:31, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Snape / James / Sectumsempra - I disagree. I think it was Diffindo.[]
Diffindo -
The Severing Charm (Diffindo) was a charm used to precisely and accurately cut something.
‘D – Diffindo,’ she said, pointing her wand at Ron, who roared in pain as she slashed open the knee of his jeans, leaving a deep cut. ‘Oh, I’m so sorry, Ron, my hand’s shaking! Diffindo!’
Sectumsempra -
Lacerates (tear or make deep cuts in (flesh or skin)) the target and causes severe haemorrhaging. Minor wounds inflicted by this curse can be cured by the song-like incantation Vulnera Sanentur; the first usage eased the blood flow, the second caused the wounds to knit and the third removed the worst effects of the curse. The victim would still require medical treatment, and if dittany was applied immediately, scarring can still be avoided.
‘SECTUMSEMPRA!’ bellowed Harry from the floor, waving his wand wildly.
Blood spurted (gush out in a sudden and forceful stream) from Malfoy’s face and chest as though he had been slashed with an invisible sword. He staggered backwards and collapsed on to the waterlogged floor with a great splash, his wand falling from his limp right hand.
‘No –’ gasped Harry. Slipping and staggering, Harry got to his feet and plunged towards
Malfoy, whose face was now shining scarlet, his white hands scrabbling at his blood-soaked chest.
‘No – I didn’t –’ Harry did not know what he was saying; he fell to his knees beside Malfoy, who was shaking uncontrollably in a pool of his own blood.
[...]
He (Snape) knelt over Malfoy, drew his wand and traced it over the deep wounds Harry’s curse had made, muttering an incantation (Vulnera Sanentur, a spell (we assume) only Snape knows.) that sounded almost like song.
The flow of blood seemed to ease; Snape wiped the residue from Malfoy’s face and repeated his spell. Now the wounds seemed to be knitting.
[...] When Snape had performed his counter-curse for the third time, he half lifted Malfoy into a standing position. ‘You need the hospital wing. There may be a certain amount of scarring, but if you take dittany immediately we might avoid even that … come …’
‘He lost his hood during the chase. Sectumsempra was always a speciality of Snape’s. I wish I could say I’d paid him back in kind, but it was all I could do to keep George on the broom after he was injured, he was losing so much blood.’
Snape’s Worst Memory.
But too late; Snape had directed his wand straight at James (Precise and accurately); there was a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James’s face, spattering (cover with drops or spots of something) his robes with blood.
James whirled about: a second flash of light later, Snape was hanging upside-down in the air, his robes falling over his head to reveal skinny, pallid legs and a pair of greying underpants. Many people in the small crowd cheered; Sirius, James and Wormtail roared with laughter.
Except for a gash, James suffered no side effects from the spell Snape sent. Unlike George and Draco who lost so much blood they could barely stand, let alone whirl around, send a jinx and then roar with laughter (and then continue to fight with Lily), and both were losing a lot of blood. James suffered no scaring from the spell snape used. If it had been Snape's spell, James would be on the floor, gushing blood uncontrollably, and would need Snape to heal him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StaceyKnight1985 (talk • contribs).
Also, the spell snape created was written in his Advance Potions book near the end of the book, which would have been nearer the end of year six when it was created (or at least written down in the book). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StaceyKnight1985 (talk • contribs).
- It would depend where the spell hit, it aimed at a certain body part, it would not necessarily cause fatal laceration, as shown when Snape cut George's ear off with the spell.
It also worth noting, that Diffindo is usually not a spell used in offensive duelling in the series, whereas dark charms (in this case, curses) are used in duelling frequently, as they are deliberately offensive.
It is also canonically unknown at what point Snape invented his six spells, including this one, so we cannot use the comment about his copy of Advanced Potion Making as reliable evidence on the matter.
In response to your previous edits to this page, please do not change the article to reflect your view before others from the community voice their opinions on the matter, and a consensus is formed, as removing large amounts of sourced content from pages is extremely counter-productive and unhelpful, since it is very likely that Sectumsempra was the spell used in this case. RedWizard98 (talk) 19:59, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
It also worth noting, that Scorgify is usually not a spell used in offensive duelling in the series and yet, there James Potter was using it to choke a student.
There is zero evidence that it was Snape's spells ... Just assumptions. And assumptions is not evidence neither is it canon. So should not be up under as canon.
The results of James gash does not go with the results of Sectumsempra!
Would not cause fatal Laceration as shown with Georges ear? He lost his ear and was bleeding so much it took Lupin all his effort to keep him from falling from his broom
very likely is not evidence. very likely is not canon. So James Potter should not be on the victims list.
It is very likely that James Potter removed Snape's underwear to show him to the school (sexual harassment),Is this in James profile? saying that he committed this crime? It is not in the books that he did so it is not canon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StaceyKnight1985 (talk • contribs).
- I would like to start by saying that somehow addressing James's humiliation of Snape by exposing his underwear as being linked to sexual harassment as extremely erroneous, as this act was done to purely humiliate him, a form of bullying; there was no sexual intentions or implications involved, so trying to link the two is very bizarre and inappropriate to say the very least, especially for a work of children's literature. James's bullying was cruel and sadistic, but it was not considered illegal, as most petty school bullying isn't.
Depending on where the spell aimed at, the injury would depend on where the spell hit. If it was used to strike off a body part, it would remove the body part clean off. If applied to a large area, it would cause a large injury, as shown with what happened to Draco. If the spell only hit a small body part, it would only likely cut the area it hit. It all depends on where the curse hits.
Although this isn't exact proof, but Snape's book listed the curse as for "enemies", which Harry deduces as his father. RedWizard98 (talk) 20:38, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
And Im not insisting that it wasn't sectumsmpra, for all we know it very well could be, who knows.
Im insisting that James shouldn't be on the list of victims.
IF James took of Snapes underwear and showed his penis to the crowed that is sexual harassment. And it is very likely that James did that. Just as its is very likely that snape used sectumsempra. But can we count what james did as canon? even though there is no proof he actually went through with his words? No, I dont think we can - So should not be put in any page on wiki. Just the same with James being listed as a victim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StaceyKnight1985 (talk • contribs).
Harry thought his father was the HBP. not that that spell was for his father. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StaceyKnight1985 (talk • contribs).
- I would like to stay, remember to stay on topic, and please refrain from making references to sexually inappropriate topics. Sexual harassment is not covered in the Harry Potter series and thus it not should be considered. This is a children's book series, lets not forget. RedWizard98 (talk) 20:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
it would only likely cut the area it hit. - Again...only likely....only likely is not proof, it is an assumption. Where in the books does it say this? That if only hit a small bit of skin you will only bleed a tiny bit? We see it done (canon) two times and both times the victims nearly bleed to death. There are no details about the spell it doesnt say for enemies, hit a tiny bit of skin to get lesser effects, to get near death hit the whole body, hit a body part to remove said part. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StaceyKnight1985 (talk • contribs).