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== Picture ==
 
== Picture ==
   
 
The hoover charm is [[Wingardium Leviosa]], isn´t it? But I think the picture shown in the article is [[Levicorpus]]--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 20:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 
The hoover charm is [[Wingardium Leviosa]], isn´t it? But I think the picture shown in the article is [[Levicorpus]]--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 20:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 
   
 
I´ve removed all Levicorpus mentions now. Can´t anyone upload a moving image OFthe levitating feather in film 1?--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 14:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 
I´ve removed all Levicorpus mentions now. Can´t anyone upload a moving image OFthe levitating feather in film 1?--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 14:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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== Levioso ==
 
== Levioso ==
   
The first source used in the article is from the [http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/hogwarts/library/castaspell.html Warner Bros. website], but the page on that website '''clearly''' refers to the ''Levioso'' (Levitation spell). It says that Levioso originated in England and so. (You can read it by yourself.)
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The first source used in the article is from the [http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/hogwarts/library/castaspell.html Warner Bros. website], but the page on that website '''clearly''' refers to the ''Levioso'' (Levitation spell). It says that Levioso originated in England and so. (You can read it by yourself.)
   
 
So, since the source talks about the Levioso spell, I don't understand why is misused in this way. Even if we never heard of this spell in both the books and the films, the official website of the films should be considered canon. Can't we just create a page for Levioso and move the proper information there? --[[w:c:it:Utente:Exephyo|'''<span style="color:#000000;">EXE.</span>''']][[w:c:it:Discussioni utente:Exephyo|<small><span style="color:#C80815;">eseguibile</span></small>]] 16:35, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
So, since the source talks about the Levioso spell, I don't understand why is misused in this way. Even if we never heard of this spell in both the books and the films, the official website of the films should be considered canon. Can't we just create a page for Levioso and move the proper information there? --[[w:c:it:Utente:Exephyo|'''<span style="color:#000000;">EXE.</span>''']][[w:c:it:Discussioni utente:Exephyo|<small><span style="color:#C80815;">eseguibile</span></small>]] 16:35, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
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::New info from ''Pottermore'': the Hover Charm's [http://www.pottermore.com/en/book2/chapter2/moment2/hover-charm entry] implies that it is a separate spell. Note that it is described as making objects "hover", whereas ''Wingardium Leviosa'' is almost always described as making objects "fly". I think a split is in order. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 20:30, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
::New info from ''Pottermore'': the Hover Charm's [http://www.pottermore.com/en/book2/chapter2/moment2/hover-charm entry] implies that it is a separate spell. Note that it is described as making objects "hover", whereas ''Wingardium Leviosa'' is almost always described as making objects "fly". I think a split is in order. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 20:30, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
   
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::Bumping. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 17:06, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
1337star's comment about ''Wingardium Leviosa ''always being described as making the target fly made me wonder... is it possible that this is the [[Flying spell]] mentioned in [[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]? I thought it made sense, since they both make the target fly, and presumably if you cast ''Wingardium Leviosa ''on a broomstick it'll float if you want it to, and such, and even though it wouldn't be just like a normal flying broomstick, it'd be similar. [[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 15:52, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
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==Flying Charm?==
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1337star's comment about ''Wingardium Leviosa ''always being described as making the target fly made me wonder... is it possible that this is the [[Flying Charm]] mentioned in [[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]? I thought it made sense, since they both make the target fly and if one cast ''Wingardium Leviosa ''on a broomstick it'd presumably have a similar effect to the [[Flying Charm]]. Also, they're both charms. Just wondered...[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 15:54, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:There's a distinct difference, though. The Levitation Charm (as I will be so bold to call it now) makes objects (other than people) fly at control of the caster as long as the spell is focused on it. The Flying Charm allows an object to fly at control of a rider, and is presumably permanent. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 17:06, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
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:I see. Thank you for helping me understand that, it was confusing me for a while. As I said, I was just curious. By the way, if y$ou need help with anything, just send me an owl or something. [[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 17:18, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
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== Hover Charm/Levitation Charm ==
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Hey everyone. I'm still a bit tired (it's only nine o'clock) but I wanted to have another go at splitting ''Wingardium Leviosa ''and the Hover Charm, as nobody has raised any complaints about the split and all that needs to be done is the doing itself. I tried to do so last night, but unfortunately my edit was reverted before I could finish the Hover Charm page (a shame, as I thought it looked quite good. Anywho, if anything gets really messed up, it's just me. I am, yours most sincerely, [[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Vivaldi" size="2" color="FF7000">Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore</font>]]([[User talk: Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Vivaldi" size="2" color="FF7000">talk</font>]])
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== Where Did Wingardium Leviosa Go? ==
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Thanks, Seth, for sorting that out. Unfortunately, despite many attempts to find Wingardium Leviosa, all attempts redirected here. Do you know what happened to Wingardium Leviosa, or should I perhaps create a new page? Again, many thanks. [[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Vivaldi" size="2" color="FF7000">Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore</font>]] ([[User talk: Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Vivaldi" size="2" color="FF7000">talk</font>]]<font face="Vivaldi" size="2" color="FF7000"></font>) 15:57, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
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:[[Wingardium Leviosa]] now redirects to [[Levitation Charm]]. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 16:13, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
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==OWL==
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Er... I just re-read my copy of ''Order of the Phoenix'', and I realized that they '''do''' use this in their OWLs... "His Levitation '''Charm''' was certainly much better than Malfoy's had been..." (text was not bolded, I did so to emphasise my point that it was this spell and not ''[[Levitation Spell|Levioso]]'' that was used. I actually wondered whether anyone could ''please'' help find a way to integrate this fact into the article, because every way I've tried just sounded ''odd''. Thanks :) --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunniebunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 23:14, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
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==Hand movement==
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Should that really be in the infobox? The films, Pottermore and Wonderbook: Book of Spells all use a different hand movement. -- ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 00:03, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
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:I wondered that earlier. After all, J. K. Rowling, who did the writing, ''wrote'' that it was supposed to look like a "J", according to Wonderbook. The films probably only did it the way they did because that was how they (and I, until ''[[Pottermore]]'', imagined it). Pottermore did the wand movements the way they felt like it, whatever way they wanted. So I'd have to say no, but I'd like to see what everyone else says first. --'''<span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:0.56cm;">[[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Times" size="4" color="Black">Hunniebunn</font>]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Times" size="4" color="Black">talk</font>]])''' 00:10, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
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::Pottermore did it just so you could duel with others. I don't think they actually put much thought it. Some movements seem silly for spells, taking to long to perform. -- ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 18:38, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
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:::You cannot possibly expect that JK Rowling did ''all'' the writing you see in ''Book of Spells''. She was the one who wrote the Foreword, and the paper theatre cutscenes, and the conundrums, but ordinary stuff like game dialogue was not her doing (do you really think she would fail to mention the "squish and flick movement" if she had written that part). -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:49, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
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::::In regards to PerryPeverell, I agree. To Seth, the "swish and flick" part ''was'' mentioned in Wonderbook. I quote directly from the game:<br/>"''This spell is all in the wrist. Keep your wand hand loose and perform a nice, smooth swish and flick movement.''"<br/>And even if you don't count ''Wonderbook'' motions, the ''Pottermore'' ones we use are just drawings made by ''Pottermore'' in order for us to trace them whilst lines went through random letters from the incantations.<br/> Either way, I propose that we open up a vote or forum someplace else for this matter, as I'm not sure how much it has to do with the Levitation Charm article individually. --'''<span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:0.56cm;">[[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Times" size="4" color="Black">Hunniebunn</font>]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Times" size="4" color="Black">talk</font>]])''' 21:03, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

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OWL

Er... I just re-read my copy of Order of the Phoenix, and I realized that they do use this in their OWLs... "His Levitation Charm was certainly much better than Malfoy's had been..." (text was not bolded, I did so to emphasise my point that it was this spell and not Levioso that was used. I actually wondered whether anyone could please help find a way to integrate this fact into the article, because every way I've tried just sounded odd. Thanks :) --Hunniebunn (talk) 23:14, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hand movement

Should that really be in the infobox? The films, Pottermore and Wonderbook: Book of Spells all use a different hand movement. -- PerryPeverell 00:03, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

I wondered that earlier. After all, J. K. Rowling, who did the writing, wrote that it was supposed to look like a "J", according to Wonderbook. The films probably only did it the way they did because that was how they (and I, until Pottermore, imagined it). Pottermore did the wand movements the way they felt like it, whatever way they wanted. So I'd have to say no, but I'd like to see what everyone else says first. --Hunniebunn (talk) 00:10, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
Pottermore did it just so you could duel with others. I don't think they actually put much thought it. Some movements seem silly for spells, taking to long to perform. -- PerryPeverell 18:38, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
You cannot possibly expect that JK Rowling did all the writing you see in Book of Spells. She was the one who wrote the Foreword, and the paper theatre cutscenes, and the conundrums, but ordinary stuff like game dialogue was not her doing (do you really think she would fail to mention the "squish and flick movement" if she had written that part). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 19:49, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
In regards to PerryPeverell, I agree. To Seth, the "swish and flick" part was mentioned in Wonderbook. I quote directly from the game:
"This spell is all in the wrist. Keep your wand hand loose and perform a nice, smooth swish and flick movement."
And even if you don't count Wonderbook motions, the Pottermore ones we use are just drawings made by Pottermore in order for us to trace them whilst lines went through random letters from the incantations.
Either way, I propose that we open up a vote or forum someplace else for this matter, as I'm not sure how much it has to do with the Levitation Charm article individually. --Hunniebunn (talk) 21:03, November 19, 2012 (UTC)