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"Metaphorical"[]
I think calling this room's name metaphorical is a bit excessive, since its name is pretty self-explanatory. I also don't think it should be in any way linked to the Room of Requirement, since these two locations have zero links with each other (the latter is a magical room, whilst the aforementioned is not). This is simply a formal meeting room at the Ministry, in no way similar whatsoever to a room capable of changing itself at Hogwarts. RedWizard98 (talk) 16:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's not excessive, it's descriptive. MalchonC wanted to know where "I got that from?" that it was a "metaphorical room of requirement", and the simple answer is that I took the designated name of the room, then I paraphrased it while also sneaking in a bit of a play on words to both describe it without repeating the word "all-purpose" and to draw a parallel between the two as being designated areas that are used in/for multiple ways/reasons by multiple people. It was a restated specification about what the room is for without being overly repetitive, nothing more. With that out of the way: MalchonC, to address your objection of it "just one example of Mafalda Hopkirk," and "students do more briefings in the Ministry Office": That is completely irrelevant. The section is used to describe the different capacities in which the room is used, not to list percentages of who use the room or for what purpose. Hopkirk used it to do her morning work, so we know that it is also used as a workspace. How prevalent this usage is among Ministry personnel are entirely beside the point. Tfoc (talk) 16:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- "Sneak in a bit of a play on words" itself should be treated very carefully on this wiki, and in this case I think it's far more than that. The relation you think these two rooms have are just far-fetched. The Room of Requirement is a very secret room and only answers to your emergency needs and presents only the things you want it to, whereas the Ministry All-Purpose Room is public and you can come in whenever you want to do things whatever you want.
If you look up Year 7 Chapter 7, what Cattermole said was that the desk where MC found his wand is where "that is usually where Miranda Hopkirk gets her morning work done." So it's a routine occurrence, not only stated to have happened that once. If he had said, let's say "I know Miranda Hopkirk sat there getting her morning work done when I checked in today", or something like that, I wouldn't have added it to the "Function" section. Also, I would appreciate it if you would be put it out of your mind that I think there is a "relation" between the two rooms. That is a misconception of Red's, not something I've actually said. What I said was that there is a parallel. And there is. And the parallel is that there is a room at Hogwarts used by different people for different reasons, and there is a room at the Ministry used by different people for different reasons. Which is both objectively the case and also the sum total of what that description conveyed. To superficially point at all these differences between them and cite them as an excuse to undo my edit is to both entirely miss the point and complain about a problem that doesn't exist. Tfoc (talk) 16:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comparing to the Room of Requirement is, in your own words, an self-invented comparison, so I'm glad it is not in the article. It is not official and therefore should not be presented as such. It is an acceptable comparison in say someone's mind, but not one the series itself presents. RedWizard98 (talk) 17:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC) RedWizard98 (talk) 17:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, both rooms are used by different people for different reasons, but that doesn't make the All-Purpose Room a "metaphorical Room of Requirement". Also, what you added in the article wasn't only about Mafalda Hopkirk, but "lower-ranking officials", which is definitely your personal assumption. MalchonC (talk) 17:18, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
You make it sound like the parallel I alluded to as part of the description is fictional in the same way as the Room of Requirement and the Ministry All-Purpose Room is fictional, Red, and I sincerely hope that's not what you're suggesting. There is no such thing as a "self-invented comparison", you see, as a comparison exist solely by virtue of how two or more things have one or more similarities. And these two rooms have a blatantly obvious one, hence, I threw it in there for descriptive reasons. Tfoc (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Descriptions are fine, but they should generally be concise in nature with an attention to detail as opposed to opinions. RedWizard98 (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Then it's a good thing indeed that the parallel in question - a concise detail I noticed and decided to add - exist objectively regardless of my opinion on the matter, eh, Red? Tfoc (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, I don't think it was a concise detail to add, nor an accurate one. That is the whole reason I don't think it should belong. RedWizard98 (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
I pointed out a truism. There's nothing for you to disagree with; there's nothing I've said so far that isn't factually accurate. At this point, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and I have better things to do than wasting my time on that, so I'm ending the discussion here. Tfoc (talk) 20:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)