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Cubs Fan2007 (talk) 22:19, March 30, 2017 (UTC)


RE Questions

Yes, the Native American students can be added to the Ilvermorny list, even if they are unnamed or unidentified. If a user account is blocked, any additional accounts are considered sock-puppets and will be blocked as well if used to circumvent the block. See HPW:SOCK policy. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:54, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

As noted on HPW:SOCK policy, "If any of a user's accounts are to be blocked, then all accounts associated with that user will also be blocked." It doesn't matter when the accounts were made, the intent is to block the user because of their actions, regardless of what account(s) they might be using. --Ironyak1 (talk) 11:46, June 26, 2017 (UTC)
Before a page is deleted it needs to be reviewed by an admin - blanking the content makes this more difficult for them to do.
Yes, Draco and Delphini are both House of Black descendants, but as they do not bear the Black name they are technically not in the House of Black (like the Weaselys, or Albus Potter). Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:52, July 7, 2017 (UTC)
The Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (film) mention is already in Appearances, but in the History section of Ilvermorny School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, something could be said about how The New York Ghost reports on their House points. It would also make sense to have MACUSA listed in the infobox for the Potter family with a comment (like this:{{c|put text here}}) about it being the American branch or individuals. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:43, July 12, 2017 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why you couldn't add a castle description for Ilvermornym and gifs can be used to accompany the text as well. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:57, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Here is the quote from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (2017 edition) - "I went to America to free a trafficked Thunderbird, which was quite risky enough, given that MACUSA had a curse-to-kill policy on all magical creatures at the time. I am proud to say that one year after my visit, President Seraphina Picquery instituted a Protective Order on Thunderbirds, an edict she would eventually extend to all magical creatures."

"Thunderbirds" is always capitalised so it's not clear if there was a formally named "Protective Order on Thunderbirds" law, but there was at least a "Protective Order", on Thunderbirds to start and later on all magical creatures. Hope that helps. --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:39, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

There is no way to make the image clearer, other than to pause the movie at a clearer moment and take a better screenshot. You can adjust the display size by adding an option to the File tag: 150px, 200px, etc... eg [[File:ImageName.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Caption Text]]
As for articles on Duels, most articles are named like Duel at Godric's Hollow, so "Duel between Isolt Sayre and Gormlaith Gaunt", for separate articles, or "Duels at Ilvermorny Castle" to cover the multiple duels, would fit this standard. Hope that helps! --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:17, November 3, 2017 (UTC)
File:ManHatOnMilliners.png was taken from MinaLima print at their online shop, not from the movie - that is why it is so clear. There are other sources, like books and art prints, for some items. --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:59, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

RE Gregory Goyle's mother

A pure-blood is defined as someone without any muggle-or muggle-born parents or grandparents. So Goyle's mom may in fact be a half-blood due to a muggle or muggle-born grandparent, but as this would be a great-grandparent for Gregory he could still be a pure-blood. See Writing by J.K. Rowling: "The Malfoy Family" at Pottermore to see how half-bloods can appear on a pure-blood family tree. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 15:48, June 28, 2017 (UTC)


Why did you remove infobox references on Minerva McGonagall? Ideally, every statement in an article should have a clear reference to where in canon that fact appears. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:00, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

All statements should be referenced as clearly as possible - most of those involved should actually be improved to cite the specific book chapter. References should always be expanded, fixed, or clarified, but never removed. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:13, July 6, 2017 (UTC)
The goal for references is so anyone, even those who have never read a HP book or seen a movie, knows where the information came from. So not only are they necessary, they should be improved - for instance, animagus form should reference Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Chapter 1 (The Boy Who Lived) and not just Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. References should not be removed unless they are shown to be wrong, and then they should be replaced with the correct reference.
The nationality of the Goldstein sisters' parents is unknown. They may have been born outside the US and died there while the sisters were sent over as kids to live with relatives like the Grandpa with the owls (or any number of possible scenarios). Hopefully we'll learn more in the future! Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:15, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Categories & Subcategories

Generally, only the most specific category should be on the article. For example, if an article is in Category:Malfoy family, it is automatically already under Category:Pure-blood_families, Category:Sacred Twenty-Eight families, Category:Wizard families, Category:Families, etc... The bot will automatically remove any redundant parent categories so any that have been added to articles will removed during the next run of the bot (about once a week). Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:07, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

Wikimedia (which Wikia is built on) uses a category tree, which has categories and subcategories arranged much like a system of folders. You only put the article (or file) in the most relevant subcategory (or folder), not in every category (or folder) above it.
All Malfoys are members of Sacred Twenty-Eight families, which are all Pure-blood families, which are all Wizarding families, etc... There is no need to apply all these categories as if the article belongs to the sub-category, it automatically is included in all the parent categories in the tree above.
The categories are not tags which have no structure or relationship to each other and would require all the relevant categories to be applied (any Malfoy article would have Malfoy family, Sacred Twenty-Eight families, Pure-Blood families, Wizarding families, Families, etc, etc... Hope that helps --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:42, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

My mistake, too many tabs open. This issue has been resolved, it seems.

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RE:Ilvermorny Crest

Apologies; I hadn't really noticed the design of the Ilvermorny crest had been updated! Cheers, --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:05, October 4, 2017 (UTC)

RE Gif images

Sorry for the delay, but yes gifs are allowed and are used on many articles. --Ironyak1 (talk) 01:44, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

BTS section

In our articles, mentions of non-canon things belong to the BTS section, as far as I am aware. The main body of the article only lists canon information. Also, the mention of book titles etc. is restricted to BTS and Appearances section, as they are written as though everything really happened. We use the dates instead.--Rodolphus (talk) 23:25, January 13, 2018 (UTC)


Hey, justed wanted to pop by and give you a thumbs up, real quick. I've noticed some of your more recent edits, and I'd just like to commend your productiveness. Keep up the good work! :-D Ninclow (talk) 07:09, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

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RE:House Traits

Hello again, nice hearing from you! :-D

I'm not an admin, and can't speak for them, but... Sure. I mean - I can't honestly say I see the harm in hinting to the facts depicted on those two pages, granted we don't fully treat them as such. People aren't fully defined by their house alone, after all, so while one could say that some Ravenclaws would be welcoming of eccentric peers, for example, others wouldn't. Luna is made fun of by her fellow students, after all, not only Ron. it'd be inaccurate to say that all Ravenclaws share the traits/opinions alluded to, as long as the article don't outright treat them like they are universal. 

As for reference, if you can't link the pages themselves, just link to and add in a parantese the name of the two pages they're supposed to look up in ordinary text.

Hope that answered it! 

Ninclow (talk) 21:46, January 19, 2018 (UTC)  

Oh, that  should be easy enough. You simply insert a reference and set it up like this:

Pottermore - (5 reasons you should be best friends with a Ravenclaw
Pottermore - (6 reasons to get excited if you’re sorted into Ravenclaw)

As for not making it universal, have you read the introduction to the house intoductions from Pottermore? To find out how you can make it more objective, my advise would be for you to read them over, and pay particular attention to everything said about the house of Ravenclaw by each house prefect, then you pop by the Ravenclaw page and check out the "traits" section, where most of said information should already have been included. Look at how its being phrased and find a way to squeeze in the information you'd like to include.

However, some of the information is also actually balantly false, so it's important that for the sake of accuracy, that you try your best to think back to the books and check if you can remember something similar having been said, done or happened to any Ravenclaws in the books. For example, you have one thing in particular I dismissed fairly easily:

"Ravenclaw is famous for welcoming eccentric people" is open for intepretation. Why? Well, Moaning Myrtle and Lua Lovegood was both eccentic, and both of them were bullied for it. As a matter of fact, I don't think "Loony" Lovegood had as much as a single friend prior to her introduction in the fifth book, which would've been her fourth year. One could arguably say that "welcoming eccentric people' could be said for all four houses. The portrait of the courages Sir Cadogan is said to depict the man pretty much as he was in life, for example.

"Getting into the Ravenclaw common room sounds like a lot of fun" isn't necessarily the case either. As Luna or Cho said in the seventh book, if you can't answer the riddle, then you had to wait until someone else came along and could figure it out. Imagine if you will a little first year just leaving the common room, and recalled he had forgot his potion's book, so he hurried back because his first class was with Snape, and if he can't be quick about it, he'll be late for breakfast. I mean, the Ravenclaw Tower is beleived to be found in the fifth floor, right? That's five floors worth of descending staircases, some of which as he entered the grand staircase is prone to move and might put them the wrong place and he has to either wait for it to come back or ask it nicely to. Then there are Peeves, avoid Peeves, or he'll keep you from breakfast. And now they forgot their book, and can't solve the riddle and have to wait. So you should make it so the article reflects the fact that while Ravenclaws are intellectually inclined, there are likely to be some who likes the challenge and think the riddles helps them keeping their minds keen and subtle, while some probably just finds them to be annoyingly inconvinient and would wish they had a password instead. 

If you can't remember something similar having been said, done or happened to any Ravenclaws in the books, then just add it anyway. Then you can drop me a message here when you are done, and I'll look it over and remove any inaccuracies for you. Beast of luck! ;-) Ninclow (talk) 06:45, January 20, 2018 (UTC)   

I changed what you wrote a bit. I don't see Ravenclaws as "smart enough to know friendship requires work to be lasting", necessarily. Cho Chang lost all of her friends after she had her breakdown after Cedric was killed and she stopped being popular, so the gang hanging with her were neither loyal, real friends or acknowledged what we just talked about, so I removed it for the time being. Couldn't think of a valid, canon example of it being the case on the top of my head. But I like your initiative! Keep it up, my friend! Ninclow (talk) 01:29, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

What I think is important to remember, mate, is that pages like that are mainly promotional, not very factual. Some editor on Pottermore basically says; "Ravenclaw are smart. This is good about smart people", without checking that it actually applies to the Harry Potter universe. But sure, I will try. ;-) Ninclow (talk) 07:32, January 21, 2018 (UTC)



Yes, it seems like it is. The image you provided stems from a canon source. Shikoba Wolfe was an American wandmaker, so I'd say it is a definitive yes. As for wizarding France being galmorous? Uh... Where did you hear that? I mean - sure, it probably is, because the description of Beauxbatons in the books sounds glamorous, so the rest of the magical community over there might be as well. Ninclow (talk) 23:05, January 23, 2018 (UTC) 

I don't think it warrants a seperate section in the article, but you can add it early on in the "History" part. Ninclow (talk) 06:30, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
Not sure... can you link the specific feature you have in mind? :-) Ninclow (talk) 08:07, January 28, 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you can go ahead and do that. The information was written by Rowling and is perfectly canon. ;-) Ninclow (talk) 10:15, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

That would be on the existing page. :-) Ninclow (talk) 23:42, February 1, 2018 (UTC) You could do it as simple as calling the section "interior", for example? As for the rest of your question, I think you'd better direct this to Seth Cooper, just to be sure I don't give you some bad advise. He's an admin, after all. ;-) Ninclow (talk) 00:25, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

That you can. :-) Ninclow (talk) 10:06, February 3, 2018 (UTC)


Hello! I have noticed you have been splitting articles into sections; however, I should say that small, stubby articles (such as Peachy Witchy, or Federal Identity Commissioner) don't necessarily need to be split into sections -- apart from the "mandatory" ones (like, "Appearances", or "References") sections are to aid navegation in longer articles. Cheers! --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 15:32, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Unsupported Flight vs. Apparition

The plumes of smoke were indeed a visual depiction of Apparition (albeit one that does not seem to comply with the established book canon). The Half-Blood Prince script refers to what Greyback and the Death Eaters do in the opening scene as Apparating. This is further confirmed in the Deathly Hallows video game, in which Harry can Apparate short distances the same way. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 02:51, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Walburga and Orion Black Images

I'd say the most important thing would be to feature both images. The main picture would have to be the cropped version of the family portrait (i.e. showing only Walburga or Orion) -- and then featuring the full picture just a couple of paragraphs below would be repetitive. Both pictures are equally valid, mind, so there's no reason the picture from the Family tree can't be on the infobox. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 03:56, February 1, 2018 (UTC)


Category:Wizards is non-gender-specific (it uses the male form because there doesn't seem to be a gender-neutral term); people are separated by gender on Category:Males and Category:Females. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 03:56, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

I think I'd prefer "Creatures from [place]". But I guess both are acceptable. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 04:55, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE Walburga and Orion Black page

I agree with Seth on this one. The family pic works with that related section and the tapestry photo works for the individual infobox. I would also add that having a variety of pictures helps with seeing the different adaptations from the film and Pottermore for this character's portrayal instead of using just one source. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:52, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE:American wizarding hero

As it's explained in talk page of the deleted article, the Pottermore text is not, on that instance, mentioning a specific character; it's a literary way of saying that even though Beauvais wands are connotated with Dark magic, at least some good guys also owned her wands. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:27, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

I know it used the words "American wizarding hero", but the excerpt refers to no one in particular, it's an expression. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 04:57, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Grindelwald's bolt page

I'd agree that the page name is not ideal (it shouldn't be capitalised unless it's a name given in canon, though). Can't check right now if the screenplay calls it something different, though. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:44, February 22, 2018 (UTC)


Dashes can be used to denote an interpolation within a sentence; they're used to set off parenthetical statements. Such a sentence — like this one — ought to make sense whether what's in between the dashes is ommited or not. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 02:11, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Lestrange family

Hey - saw your message to Seth, but I happen to be on now. What needs to be fixed exactly? --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:15, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

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Why did you remove all primate categories?

They are all primates. Every single reliable source will tell you that.

Opdagon (talk) 15:10, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Humans are primates

That is a fact. Also, comparing this to an example which literally CANNOT be bent to your viewpoint won't help.

Opdagon (talk) 20:38, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

And yet humans have it. Also, humans are apes

Opdagon (talk) 06:56, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Birds are dinosaurs

if you use logic to discover anything different, you've used false premises or need to redo how equality works in your logic.

Opdagon (talk) 13:26, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Delete tag

Please make sure you are adding the {{Delete}} template to pages WITHOUT removing the content of the page. For redirect pages, please add the tag after the REDIRECT statement so the redirect still works. For instance, in renaming American Society of Legilimens to The American Society of Legilimens, Living With Legilimens: Choose Your Minds Wisely still has a link to the first naming (in the infobox), so the redirect is still needed till all links are cleaned up, which you can see here:

Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 03:57, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your compliments and for encouraging -Ashrafgulzafar14

Definition of dinosaur

"the group consisting of the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of Triceratops and Neornithes, and all its descendants."

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RE: RE: Definition of Dinosaurs

The way descendence works, is that the descendant of the descendant of entity X, is descended from entity X. Also, everything is descendant from all of its ancestors.

Opdagon (talk) 19:11, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Eye of Horus

How do we know the Eye of Horus is a pin? To me, it looks more like a brooch - or a talisman that's been attached onto fabric. Or - how we know it isn't a part of the fabric? Maester Martin (talk) 19:05, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

RE Adding all residents to dorms

Wouldn't this be a copy of the house page rosters e.g. Known Ravenclaws? What would be the value in repeating it all on the dorm pages? Generally it is a bad idea as it creates two pages with the same info that need to be maintained, although some dorm specific information (like how Harry, Ron, Neville, Seamus, and Dean shared a room) might make sense to highlight. Thoughts? --Ironyak1 (talk) 14:08, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. That's because the year they started at Hogwarts depends on which month they were born. People born before the start of the school year (1 September) start at Hogwarts in the year they turn 11 (i.e. Harry Potter, who was born in July 1980, started at Hogwarts in 1991, a month after his 11th birthday); people born after 1 September start at Hogwarts in the year they turn 12 (i.e. Hermione Granger, who was born in September 1979, also started at Hogwarts in 1991, nearly a year after her 11th birthday).

In the case of the characters you asked, Narcissa Malfoy and Phineas Nigellus Black, while we do know the exact year, we don't know what month they were born. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:05, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Sound Producing Chocolates

Hello. Regarding the Sound Producing Chocolates page, I noticed you changed the name back. I had only changed it otherwise as I couldn't find any evidence of them being chocolates. Do you know where could I have found that evidence, for future reference?

Donut4 | Talk page 21:47, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think the scene was included within the book, but I don't remember that well since I had a clear out recently. I was under the impression that the smoke coming from his ears was from Pepper Imps which seemed to produce the same effect, and how when Harry went to take one the others seemed as though he wasn't supposed to have one, which was contrary to the activity they were partaking in (eating these animal sweets).

Nevertheless, 'Sound Producing Chocolates' not only seems very certain that they are chocolates (sweets is much more categorical) but it also implies it's a proper noun, concerning how each word is capitalised. I did read through the Prisoner of Azkaban script and I couldn't find the scene, so I relied on calling them 'animal noise sweets.' Yes, it can be 'sound-producing sweets' but I wouldn't venture so far as to propose they were chocolates.

The general rule I've found on this wiki is that conjectural articles hold names which aren't capitalised, so that they can't be inferred as proper nouns. I think this should be applied on the article in question too.

Donut4 | Talk page 22:00, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread what you said. Sound-producing sweets is a perfect alternative.

Donut4 | Talk page 22:02, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Uagadou Subjects

Hey! I really should have sent a message after I reversed your edits, my bad. What I meant was that there wasn't any canonical evidence, so like texts from pottermore, the books or even tweets by jkr. I agree with you, they surely are trained in Astronomy, Alchemy and Transfiguration, but that's my point... "Surely". Honestly, I wont revert your edits if you add them to subjects taught in Uagadou, tbh Im fine with it. I just wished there was any canonical evidence for it. Cheers, CosmicChronos Talk to me Contribs 18:59, July 12, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Canon, reliable sources

Definitely, as long as the original reference is always cited in articles. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 21:35, August 28, 2018 (UTC)

I meant the MuggleNet article itself. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:10, August 29, 2018 (UTC)

re: Citations

In this case I am supremely glad that my intentional delay on not playing the game helps provide an insight; as someone who's still in Year 4, those new characters are not listed on the friend list at that point of the game. And I wouldn't be surprised if the info isn't available to Year 1-4 players, until Jam City feels the need to change it. So your assumption that people can look to see them on the friend list, is not possible for people not hitting that point yet. When would do they appear? Apparently, judging from all the responses, probably when the player reaches Year 5, and that should have been the citation, if not a more specific one, as User Rodolphus was able to pinpoint where they've definitely been identified. Anything is better than nothing and by defending it with "it doesn't need one", I genuinely wanted to know when the character's existence was confirmed, and I'm glad at least one user was able to provide it.

I can point you to an Admin to seek their opinion if you still think a citation isn't needed, when any references would have helped an unsourced statement. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 06:52, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Image and Category

The blank image has been deleted and Category:French Ministry of Magic created. Apply as needed. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:54, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Archive of Magic images

Amazon has their usual Look Inside preview at - nothing too groundbreaking revealed but can read several full pages of the book. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:12, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

RE wand descriptions

There is no reason why wand articles can't have written descriptions as long as they are based on canon info; however, they should be kept simple to avoid arguments over descriptive terms such as whether the carvings are Norwegian or Finnish or the color is tan or beige (which has happened before). Cheers! --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:26, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Grindelwald's Followers being wizards

I think it's a safe assumption. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 13:57, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

RE Canon source

@UHP did a translation of this info and it largely appears to be a promotional item written from an out of universe perspective. That said, much of the commentary comes from MinaLima Design so it appears to be legit canon information. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:32, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

RE Questions

I'm not sure what you mean about the naming on the new images. There are no real rules and the ones you gave them seem fine.

As for the @FBFilmSeries twitter account, they are an established fan site with a history of providing accurate information so can be generally trusted as a source. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 05:13, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

RE Duplicate images

Thanks for the heads up - the duplicate images have been deleted and user warned again. FYI, if the infobox image was voted voted in there is no requirement to vote to change it. That said, the image should be most recent appearance & high quality, but there may be several to choose from that fit that criteria at any given time. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:34, November 12, 2018 (UTC)


Can you please try not to post spoiler info from Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald into page edit summaries or Discussion post titles? Many people still have not had a chance to see the film and there is no way to avoid spilers or provide a spoiler warnimg when the information is posted this way. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 10:19, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Niffler plush images

Hi; thanks for the input; the only reason I didn't relocate the info (it wasn't just images, some contained product sources) onto Niffler Plush, is because currently that page looks like it's exclusively about a specific product. I've posted the proposal of changing the article in question to covering any general products that fit the same description at Talk: Niffler Plush, hope I'd get some feedback so it won't look like I'm the only one for this idea. =D --Sammm✦✧(talk) 04:57, November 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Parisian version of Diagon Alley

The description in this picture compares entrance to the Montmartre to brick wall behind the Leaky Cauldron (the first sentence is Like the brick wall behind the Leaky Cauldron in London, the portal to the wizarding world is hiding in plain sight). I think Rue Claudel was confused with Place Cachée. The name of that article on French Wiki was changed to Place Cachée, but the props by MinaLima say that the name of this place actually is Montmartre (and description says that this is "hidden place" - Place Cachée). Besides the French site Le Point Pop had the exclusive interview with MinaLima in which it is also mentioned.Evangelyn (tell me a story) 21:13, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

Edit conflict: Much like "Diagon Alley", which is in actuality London's Wizarding Quarter comprising not only Diagon Alley, but also Carkitt Market, Horizont Alley, and Knockturn Alley, it could be that Paris has several wizarding shopping streets: the screenplay refers to it solely as "Place Cachée" (an adequate name, it means "Hidden Place" or "Hidden Square"), but apparently, promotional material has also mentioned a Rue Claudel and a Rue Girardon.
Montmartre is a a real-life neighbourhood in the 18th arrondissement of Paris where, evidently, the "French Diagon Alley" is located, not a street (so that page definitely needs correcting). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 21:50, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
Precisely. Though I don't know if we ought to put much stock in the "Rue Claudel" or "Rue Girardon" reports, seeing as I don't recall them being mentioned in the film (though, to be honest, it's possible they can be visible as blink-and-you'll-miss-it detail or something -- this image features a streetsign in the background that seems to read "BOULEVARD VOLTAIRE", for instance) and they definitely aren't mentioned in the screenplay (which places Circus Arcanus in "EXT. PLACE CACHÉE" outright). Could it be that Place Cachée is the umbrella term for the quarter of hidden wizarding streets? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:49, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

RE Jacob's sibling's second wand

Yep - makes sense. Just make sure when you rename, choose Leave a Redirect so any current links to the page still work. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:56, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, If you got the ICW crest image from the moviebook for Crimes of Grindelwald, I got the same image as well. I took one in perhaps, a higher quality. If you'd be interested I'd be happy to upload! :)

-M. --Midnight-Mint01 (talk) 01:30, January 27, 2019 (UTC)


Hi there; thanks for uploading high quality images onto this wiki. In case this is not already known, this wiki is currently populated by a serious amount of duplicated images. To help people locate images easier, please properly categorize all your uploads in the future so they can be easier found, such as this edit. The image uploaded by you, previously had no way to be found, short of coming across it by chance on the Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald article page, or for some reason browsing Special pages specifically for your contribution. That image did not appear in any of the category people could first try to look for it for, so I wasn't too surprised when a duplicated image was uploaded just now. So yeah, if you have time, please consider checking your previous uploads for the same problem and fix them. If not, please at least consider remembering doing so when you next upload. Thanks.

--Sammm✦✧(talk) 22:25, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, that really would be of great help. =] --Sammm✦✧(talk) 20:05, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
A reminder: Categories for images are needed; not just for your recent uploads, but also, belatedly realized a lot of your uploads are lacking license status, which, when accumulated, would get HPW into trouble. Please view Category:Image copyright tags and select the license status accordingly for your uploads, thanks. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 07:01, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Barnaby gay?

Hmmm; I have to first ask, where is this "LGBT list/page"? o__O I admit I failed to find it when searching "LGBT" or "List of LGBT [...]" (didn't finish typing as there's already no result showing). Did you mean Sexual orientation#Known LGBT individuals? I see that there's a bulletpoint in the BTS section covering HM observations. I think perhaps that bulletpoint could be elaborated to cover this situation, because Barnaby's not the only one to fit the bill, I think. I'm not in on the latest plot line because whenever there's an event, I'd focus on earning crests by going to extra classes instead of completing the main story arc, so IDK if more was revealed, but as far as I'm aware, Diego Caplan kinda hit on Jacob's sibling, who, well, could be a guy lol.

So yeah, I mean, unless Barnaby specifically says he's only into guys or he's into both genders etc. (regardless of Jacob's sibling's gender), I don't believe he'd be qualified to be listed in the main article, but absolutely worth noting in the BTS, if that makes any sense. That's just me though. In a sense, I'm with certain editors who believed Jacob's sibling shouldn't be added to lists of Prefects and Animagi and at most should only be mentioned in BTS for those respective articles (as there's a chance for them being neither). I remember there were some reverting going on but just didn't keep score. That being said, if you really believe he should be listed in the main article body, just go for it and see how other editors react to it. =D

Thanks for bringing this up; I don't think I was aware HM being mentioned on Sexual orientation (just too many pages here lol), and I guess IDK if I was just personally seeing something more than there probably were meant to represent, like Rowan Khanna's fascination with William Weasley, or Jacob's sibling's admission about Penny Haywood. (Though I think the latter wording did feel like confirming to be romantic feelings. Haven't had time to revisit and check the dialogues.)

Also, I think this topic might benefit from being discussed with a wider audience, such as bringing up at Talk: Sexual orientation. If you want, you can re-ask what you posted to me and I can re-post this reply there so other people may be able to participate and continue to chip in. =]

--Sammm✦✧(talk) 20:05, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Category:House of Black

Hi, IlvermornyWizard! I saw you removed the Category:Wizard families on the Category:House of Black. Why did you do that? They are a wizard family.  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 18:55, February 20, 2019 (UTC)

Ah, okay, thank you. Now I understand.  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 20:47, February 20, 2019 (UTC)

The Warlock's Hairy Heart

Hello IlvermornyWizard, in terms of my recent edit on the article regarding the Warlock's Hairy Heart, I placed it in the category of "Dark Magic", because that is the main moral theme of the story, that it discourages young witches and wizards from practising the Dark Arts. The category Dark Magic does primarily cover actual dark magic itself and dark creatures, but it also covers related topics, such as protective spells and objects, that of course, are mainly not dark magic themselves. You are definitely one of the better editors on this wiki I do have to very much strongly say, so do keep up the superb work (compared to some of the rubbish I have had to remove recently), so happy editing. RedWizard98 (talk) 21:38, May 5, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for replying to my message, and I guess we can agree with that. RedWizard98 (talk) 08:28, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

Jacob's appearance feeback.

Hello IlvermornyWizard, in regards to your recent message, thank you very much for asking me, but unfortunately I do not play Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery, as personally I am particularly not fond of the game's frequent micro-transactions. Although, as I do love to help others, I will fish around to see if I can find something for you, perhaps on YouTube or on a fan website. However, in terms of HP games, I have played all the original eight games, including on both PC and console, as well as both LEGO HP games, so I know plenty of information about those games, if I could help with anything regarding them. I will do some research and I hope you are successful with your enquiry, happy editing and good night from the United Kingdom.RedWizard98 (talk) 02:11, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

Hogwarts Mystery

Sorry for the delay. Like much of the Hogwarts Mystery content, just because some choice can be made, does not make it a canonical event. Given all the options for which companions are choosen by the player, there are a myriad of possible character involvements possible which can be noted in the "Behind the scenes" section but are not facts. This means it is possible for Jacob's sibling and various characters to be LGBTQ, it is not a canonical fact that any of them are, so it's a BTS note, not a relationship for the infobox or category inclusion.

Similarly with Jacob, it sounds like a good image will have to be picked, the hair color left blank and the issue noted in the BTS, as there is no canonical answer. Hope that helps --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:40, June 7, 2019 (UTC)

I meant the hair color parameter of the infobox. As for an image, we'll just have to see wha becomes available in terms of clarity and best fit. Perhaps there will be one in which the hair color is not clearly shown due to lighting or a hood possibly so it would work for all variations. Just have to work with what shows up as best as possible. --Ironyak1 (talk) 02:53, June 7, 2019 (UTC)


Hi mate. Please don't edit my post, as Sirius Black's wand shown in the Noble Collection is similar to a wand made out of Ebony. In addition, Ebony has a nature similar to him, as well as to a reference to his ancestry, and it can perform non-verbal magic, unlike Dogwood. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Buntoo300 (talkcontribs).

Hi mate. I've told you earlier. Please don't edit. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Buntoo300 (talkcontribs).

Hogwarts Mystery characters

Hello, with regards to your question, I can certainly help edit Hogwarts Mystery character articles, given the information already presented on them. I think with regards to each character's BTS sections, I don't think you need to go too overboard with every single little detail, but I guess just try to be as detailed as you can. If you are struggling with writing the BTS sections, perhaps just focus on their biographies, personalities or magical abilities instead, as many HM character article needs their sections on these expanding. If there is a little thing perhaps you could do though, is add a reference for both Merula's and Jacob's sibling's Patronuses (on both their articles), as I am unsure about how to reference side quests. I hope this helps.RedWizard98 (talk) 20:17, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

RE HM pages

Sure, articles could be made for items & places found in Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 17:40, June 15, 2019 (UTC)

RE Renaming Jacob's sibling to Maya

Well, as linked to in the notice on the article, there was a suggestion to rename the article to Maya as this name may have been a name used by the publisher in promo material. If you have thoughts on this, please add them there. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 07:53, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

RE Categories

Hello there, all I am doing to the categories is sorting them into alphabetical order. This is a editing practise that I follow, and it is something that Ironyak1's bot does as well, because categories not tidy or well-ordered when they are not sorted in alphabetical order. However, bots are not comprehensive editors, so I will sort the categories when I see fit to. Kind regards RedWizard98 (talk) 07:52, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

From the Layout Guide Policy, Categories should be in alphabetical order. As noted, the bot will automatically do this on its next run so any other order will end up being replaced. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 08:08, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

I would also like to inquire when have I ever deliberately removed the category "Married individuals" from articles? I may have done so accidentally when re-organising categories but I am sure I have not done this. I always ensure every page is comprehensively categorised so I do not appreciate being accused of malicious editing. You should also listen to Ironyak1's advice, after all they are an Admin.RedWizard98 (talk) 08:39, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

You have also wrongly reversed the correct alphaebtical ordering of several categories, which is thus a violation of layout policy. Next time, I think you should actually read the rule book, as these edits have largely irritated me due to their utter stupidity.RedWizard98 (talk) 09:13, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

RE Blacks in Slytherin

Unfortunately we don't really know when Slughorn started teaching (no cameo for him in Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald ;) so it's hard to know exactly which Blacks his statement applies to. For most of them, it is already listed in the "Behind the scenes" section which is probably the best we can do for now. As for Druella Black specifically, she was presumably still a Rosier at age 11. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:43, June 23, 2019 (UTC)

Walburga and Orion are already listed as being in Slytherin on their pages based on Slughorn's "50 years of service" line from one of the more recent Pottermore books. Are you saying they should not be in Slytherin or have you checked for other Blacks that should be, but are not currently? It's not clear what you want changed based on the examples you've given. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:27, June 23, 2019 (UTC)

Parents category

I would recommend making your proposal to the community as a whole. I am no longer very active here and would not be the best person to make this decision. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:24, July 16, 2019 (UTC)

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