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Hello there! While we are not restricting any spoiler information from being added to articles, can you please not note spoiler details in the Summary where people may inadvertently read them without any warnings. With just a couple days left till the global release we would like not to spoil anyone if it can be avoided. Many thanks! --Ironyak1 (talk) 04:28, November 14, 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I really think you should stop edit warring over Hagrid's umbrella. The use of this umbrella by Hagrid to open up the entrance to Diagon Alley was a magical act, so please stop removing this content, as several other users have explained this. Edit warring is not recommended, as it damages debate and therefore damages articles. Thank you --RedWizard98 (talk) 16:58, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
- Per the Harry Potter Wiki:Talk Page Policy, comments should not be removed from Talk pages unless they are spam or vandalism. However, I do agree that the message above is unnecessarily combative in tone. Note that I had missed the subtitle for the point in question on Hagrid's Pink Umbrella and moved it instead to be under just "Uses" which seems to best fit the information provided in the text. I hope this helps resolve the disagreement and would remind everyone to not be disagreeable in their discussions. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:39, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
RedwWizard98. Just because several users says so, it doesn't mean they are right. There's no mention of Hagrid using a spell on the wall. Having physically to toughing the bricks implies that the wall itself is magically programmed to detect pressure. --RogueOwner (talk) 19:45, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Many students in Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery have houses that vary in each game, so we say that their house is unknown, and we do not known canonically what their houses were. This is correct, which is why they belong to the said category "Unknown house". The Conjecture tag is also used to denote articles with unconfirmed or speculative names, such as with unidentified characters. Kind regards --RedWizard98 (talk) 20:16, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
- The articles here are meant to be written in-universe point of view. There's no such a thing as "unknown Hogwarts Quidditch team" in HP universe. Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Slytherin are the all they have. --RogueOwner (talk) 20:35, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
What I mean by that is that we do not know "which" Quidditch team or house they became members of, because these characters could have canonically been in any house, which is why they have "unknown houses". You can ask a content moderator such as MechQueste or Yechezkelb and they will agree that what I wrote was appropriate. --RedWizard98 (talk) 20:40, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what we, real life people, know or don't know. The articles here are meant to be written in-universe point of view. I'm sure that the video game characters knew which House she's in. --RogueOwner (talk) 20:43, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
I think perhaps you should have a look at this category (https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Unknown_House). This is for people whose Hogwarts house is unknown, or from a Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery perspective, varies from game to game. If you have problems with this you should probably ask one of the content moderators named above.--RedWizard98 (talk) 20:48, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
- I have no problem with the category, but, like I already said, the articles itself must be written in-universe point of view. --RogueOwner (talk) 20:55, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
We never use foul language on this wiki, especially to attack or harass others. This is a serious violation of policy, and I will be reporting to administration for this, as such language towards others is utterly unacceptable. --RedWizard98 (talk) 20:55, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
Do not also issue threats to other users in editorial summaries. You are not a content moderator or admin, so you don't have the authority to get other users in trouble. Talk pages for both users and articles are used to cordially and professionally discuss issues, without cursing. RedWizard98 (talk) 21:06, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
- You're the one threatening to get me in trouble. --RogueOwner (talk) 21:12, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
You should not use bad language anywhere on this wiki, something all users are supposed to understand. And with regards to canon, the film appearance of a book character in a film is not enough to establish their appearance, something an admin once told me.--RedWizard98 (talk) 00:28, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
No, a film appearance is not enough to establish a book character's appearance. I think perhaps you should stop with the frivolous tit for tat and find something else to do, as both pages have been protected. --RedWizard98 (talk) 00:53, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
RedWizard98 you are not a content moderator or admin either. So you also don't have the authority to get other users in trouble. I am not defending the foul language RogueOwner wrote, which was indeed against the rules, but I'm saying don't say stuff like that.
Physical descriptors + edit warring and uncivility
Hi, RogueOwner. Just thought I'd help clarify the confusion and hopefully put an end to this not very pretty back-and-forth between you and RedWizard98.
Contrary to the usual interpretation of the canon policy, in the past (and prompted largely by Harry Potter and the Cursed Child (play)), the community had an extended discussion about characters' physical descriptors (such as skin colour, hair colour, height, etc.) and came to the conclusion that in the specific case of physical characteristics, they ought to be based on the highest source of canon for that character. That means that for book characters, the physical descriptors must come from the books; only film-only characters should be described based on their on-screen portrayals. This was made mainly to avoid picking-and-mixing physical characteristics from the actors that might fit/not fit book description, and to avoid confusion if and when a character is played by several different actors.
That said, I'm afraid I must point out that engaging in edit wars and frankly uncivil exchanges does not at all reflect well on two editors (the same warning applies to RedWizard98, naturally) who are usually frankly engaged and constructive. Contributing to the Wiki project demands respect for each other and cooperation in a collaborative manner: remember to use talk pages to discuss things and to call upon other users to clarify things if necessary; edit summaries are not the proper means to conduct a constructive conversation. There is no excuse for uncivility or personal attacks.
I'll turn a blind eye to what happened now, in the hope that we won't see similar behaviour in the future, from either of you. Cheers. --01:31, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Seth Cooper. The character's skin/hair was only specified in the film, there's no any higher source than that. The canon policy of this wiki states that things from the films are considered canon unless it specifically contradictory to the books. --RogueOwner (talk) 06:56, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
- The what you write on that discussion is just your opinion, not an actual rule. --RogueOwner (talk) 15:31, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
Me and MechQueste (who is a content moderator) do not agree that you keep changing nationality and birth place information. The Bulstrodes and the Patils are examples of British wizarding families, so it is fair to say their members are British also. This also makes their birthplaces extremely likely to be in the UK or Ireland, which is also backed up with an accio source quote. You should probably discuss this with MechQueste or another content moderator/admin before you keep making big changes to articles and reverting other people's edits. --RedWizard98 (talk) 16:17, June 20, 2020 (UTC)
You should also stop referring to me and other users with a snide tone. It comes across as very petty and spiteful, and is very unhelpful when it comes to editing articles and actually trying to discuss things with others.--RedWizard98 (talk) 16:39, June 20, 2020 (UTC)
- Being British or Irish doesn't mean she is British. Also: I didn't remove the nationality soutce, I'm only trying to replace it with the correct Template. --RogueOwner (talk) 16:46, June 20, 2020 (UTC)
Come on over and discuss things here. MechQueste 12:22, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
Please can you ensure all your image uploads from Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery are given full information boxes in their files. Also, do not upload screenshots of private discord conversations, as these conversations are supposed to be private and the other party has likely not consented for such conversations to be publicly shared. Thank you --RedWizard98 (talk) 17:41, June 22, 2020 (UTC)
- Please can you stop mini-modding? Why do you act as if you are above others? This has been told you before: You are not entitled to act like an administrator, a moderator, or anything of the like. You have no authority to tell me what to do. --RogueOwner (talk) 19:00, June 22, 2020 (UTC)
Other editors have the right to politely inform other users of policy if they choose to. There is nothing wrong with this, and this is not a violation of any HP wiki policy. Perhaps you should read the legitimate reasons for which users can be blocked before reporting someone who has actually followed by the rules.--RedWizard98 (talk) 19:31, June 22, 2020 (UTC)
- You are allowed to inform others about the policy, but you don't have the right to command others to follow the it. --RogueOwner (talk) 19:35, June 22, 2020 (UTC)
Politely is the key term there - if a user is choosing to insult other editors, then that of course is not allowed. RogueOwner, has there been insults used in these previous conversations? Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk)
- RedWizard98 has made nasty implies about me using sockpuppets and sharing conversations without permissions. --RogueOwner (talk) 19:46, June 22, 2020 (UTC)
In following up on this, have there been harassing discussions taking place in Discord, images about which were deleted here? There appears to be a disturbing trend taking place that I feel needs to be followed up on. Please let me know what can be done to help. Thanks --Ironyak1 (talk) 20:04, June 23, 2020 (UTC)